As if exempting Nebraska wasn't insulting enough to "equal protection"...

[FlamingMoe]

White House nears deal on health care

The agreement, forged in a marathon negotiating session that included White House officials and seven prominent labor leaders, would exempt union members from a proposed surtax on expensive insurance plans until 2018

How can anyone support these clowns anymore? Whether you're anti-union or not, making special tax breaks available only to people who happen to be in unions is an affront to the idea of equality under the law.

 

[MattusMaximus]

You're right, we should only give tax breaks to the rich

 

[corplinx]

Its funny. I thought that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid were in charge. I thought they passed two bills and were in the conference process.

Stopping now to ask the unions if its okay.... who is in charge again?

Beam me up Mr. Speaker.

 

[WildCat]

You're right, we should only give tax breaks to the rich

Why should union members get special tax breaks not available to anyone else in the same income range?

 

[WildCat]

Its funny. I thought that Obama, Pelosi, and Reid were in charge. I thought they passed two bills and were in the conference process.

Stopping now to ask the unions if its okay.... who is in charge again?

Beam me up Mr. Speaker.

This bill is a complete mess, and most Americans oppose it with only 40% favoring it.

They're going to try to ram this stinker through as fast as possible, before the opposition gains even more strength.

 

[Bob Blaylock]

This bill is a complete mess, and most Americans oppose it with only 40% favoring it.

They're going to try to ram this stinker through as fast as possible, before the opposition gains even more strength.

I think this may have been true pretty much from the beginning, but it is certainly, obviously true now: Those Democrats who are pushing this “health care reform” through are acting, not out of any actual desire to improve the situation, but out of a desire to “do something” just so that they can claim the credit for having done something. They certainly have to know that at this point, what they are trying to shove on us is something that will make the situation much worse, rather than better. They don't care. All they care about is that they can claim credit for having given us “health care reform”.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

You're right, we should only give tax breaks to the rich

They pay most of the taxes. It's only fair that they be first in line when taxes are cut.

 

[Whiplash]

You're right, we should only give tax breaks to the rich

That doesn't actually answer the question.

 

[corplinx]

Yes, its actually a bit of a derail. Worked though, didn't it? Skeptical Teacher?

 

[KoihimeNakamura]

Or, to rephrase for it everyone ignoring the point:

You *can* in fact give tax breaks to any group you want and it's totally legal. The rich get a few, the poor get a few, the unions get a few (the married get a few)

Your point?

 

[leftysergeant]

Why should union members get special tax breaks not available to anyone else in the same income range?

Because they negotiated those health benefits in lieu of wage increases so that American industry could stay viable.

So what did the industrialists do?

Moved the jobs off-shore where they didn't have to pay health care or living wages.

That's why the union members deserve to have a tax break that the investor class doesn't.

The working class is an asset, the investor class has become a parasite.

 

[leftysergeant]

They pay most of the taxes. It's only fair that they be first in line when taxes are cut.

They owe most of the taxes for value recieved. They need to stop whining.

 

[geni]

Why should union members get special tax breaks not available to anyone else in the same income range?

Is there anything that stops anyone from joining or creating a union?

 

[leftysergeant]

Is there anything that stops anyone from joining or creating a union?

Republicans, if they can find a way.

 

[Alt+F4]

White House nears deal on health care

How can anyone support these clowns anymore? Whether you're anti-union or not, making special tax breaks available only to people who happen to be in unions is an affront to the idea of equality under the law.

How is this any different from say the Earned Income Credit? Why should people with children get a special tax break not available to those without children?

Forget equality under the law. The 14th Amendment is not used in the United States. If it was I would be legally be allowed to travel to Cuba. I'm not, but my neighbor, also a United States citizen, is.

 

[The Painter]

Because they negotiated those health benefits in lieu of wage increases so that American industry could stay viable.

So what did the industrialists do?

Moved the jobs off-shore where they didn't have to pay health care or living wages.

That's why the union members deserve to have a tax break that the investor class doesn't.

The working class is an asset, the investor class has become a parasite.

BS. It's political payback for swinging the Union vote. Nothing noble about it. It's not change and hope, it's politics as usual.

 

[leftysergeant]

BS. It's political payback for swinging the Union vote. Nothing noble about it. It's not change and hope, it's politics as usual.

Ther unions earned it. The working people created wealth. The investor class pissed it away in China.

When you want less of something, you tax the bejeebus out of it. You want more of something, you subsidize it.

We need production here, not investment in China. Most of the people pulling in the really big bucks are off-shoring our production.

Hang 'em by the heels and shake vigorously.

 

[corplinx]

Ther unions earned it. The working people created wealth. The investor class pissed it away in China.

When you want less of something, you tax the bejeebus out of it. You want more of something, you subsidize it.

We need production here, not investment in China. Most of the people pulling in the really big bucks are off-shoring our production.

Hang 'em by the heels and shake vigorously.

non-union auto plants are all over the southeast

the idea that unions still represent labor is outdated and silly

the 50s called and asked for your ideas back

 

[leftysergeant]

non-union auto plants are all over the southeast

And they are royally screwing up our ecconomy.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

If corporate reps are at the negotiations and Roman Catholic bishops are at the negotiations, I think the unions should also be at the negotiations.