Merged James Madison on Various Topics

[Beerina]

I'm telling you people, just wait and see. Beyond the just generally massive intrusion into privacy, there's the curious additional requirement to force you to buy a product. Neither has particularly great weight with the Supreme Court.


Or with the concept of a free society.

 

[ponderingturtle]

I know what James Madison would say about the modern health care bills


BRAINS!!!

/

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

I'm telling you people, just wait and see. Beyond the just generally massive intrusion into privacy, there's the curious additional requirement to force you to buy a product. Neither has particularly great weight with the Supreme Court.

That's a completely different topic (the constitutionality of the individual mandate) from the issue that the healthcare reform bill is bad because it's long and complex.

And on the threads on that issue, we're still waiting for someone to offer a feasible legal theory to challenge the constitutionality of the bill.

Mostly all we get is empty rhetoric like this:

Or with the concept of a free society.

 

[Upchurch]

I'm telling you people, just wait and see. Beyond the just generally massive intrusion into privacy...

hm... I wonder what, say, Jefferson would have thought of the PATRIOT Act?

 

[Darth Rotor]

hm... I wonder what, say, Jefferson would have thought of the PATRIOT Act?

A guess: He'd have approved of it were he President, and opposed it were he not President.

(My basis for this is his historical use of a Navy that he had initially opposed building, against the Barbary Pirates).

DR

 

[Upchurch]

A guess: He'd have approved of it were he President, and opposed it were he not President.

I have trouble believing that's true. I mean, you aren't even shouting let alone using colors.

 

[Galileo]

I did. Your thread title is a falsehood.

You haven't figured it out. You are an enemy of the U.S. Constitution.

 

[Galileo]

hm... I wonder what, say, Jefferson would have thought of the PATRIOT Act?

You have changed the subject from James Madison to Jefferson.

In 1815, Madison received a declaration of war to kick the crap out of the Barbary Pirates.

Madison would have opposed the Patriot Act whether he was president or not.

 

[Upchurch]

You haven't figured it out. You are an enemy of the U.S. Constitution.

"enemy of the U.S. Constitution" for pointing out that your thread title is impossible or, at best, silly hyperbole?

You have changed the subject from James Madison to Jefferson.

Is one Founding Father's hypothetical post-mortem opinion better than another's?

Madison would have opposed the Patriot Act whether he was president or not.

Yeah, but I don't think Beerina would have, despite the even-more-massive intrusion into privacy than health care reform ever could.

Your contention that a bill's merit is based on its length is so laughable as to hardly merit much beyond the mocking that it's delivery has already earned.

 

[Galileo]

"enemy of the U.S. Constitution" for pointing out that your thread title is impossible or, at best, silly hyperbole?


Is one Founding Father's hypothetical post-mortem opinion better than another's?


Yeah, but I don't think Beerina would have, despite the even-more-massive intrusion into privacy than health care reform ever could.

Your contention that a bill's merit is based on its length is so laughable as to hardly merit much beyond the mocking that it's delivery has already earned.

You just don't have a good enough education to understand the concepts of James Madison.

I knew James Madison. James Madison was a friend of mine. You sir, are no James Madison.

 

[Cleon]

You just don't have a good enough education to understand the concepts of James Madison.

I knew James Madison. James Madison was a friend of mine. You sir, are no James Madison.

Wait, I thought you were James Madison. Make up your mind, already.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

You haven't figured it out. You are an enemy of the U.S. Constitution.

Nope. I even donate to the ACLU now and then. Where in the Constitution is there a cap on the length or complexity of legislation?

And your thread title is still a falsehood, or as Upchurch says, at least it's hyperbole masking your position that there's something bad about very large complex legislation.

In that case, you still haven't answered my question about your opinion wrt other large and complex laws.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

You just don't have a good enough education to understand the concepts of James Madison.

No, you don't. And you're the enemy of the Constitution.

I knew James Madison. James Madison was a friend of mine. You sir, are no James Madison.

Another falsehood or another bit of hyperbole that masks your undefensible position on the constitutionality of the healthcare bill.

 

[Galileo]

No, you don't. And you're the enemy of the Constitution.


Another falsehood or another bit of hyperbole that masks your undefensible position on the constitutionality of the healthcare bill.

I am the Constitution's best friend.

The quote does not touch on the subject of Constitutionality, it regards the wisdom of such legislation.

 

[JoeTheJuggler]

The quote does not touch on the subject of Constitutionality, it regards the wisdom of such legislation.

And I notice you're still evading my challenge to your opinion on large and complex legislation. (Quit pretending Madison said anything about the 2010 healthcare reform bills.)

 

[Galileo]

And I notice you're still evading my challenge to your opinion on large and complex legislation. (Quit pretending Madison said anything about the 2010 healthcare reform bills.)

You are the one evading. I asked you to figure it out, and you haven't done so.

 

[Eyeron]

You're the one who at least attempted to make a claim. The onus is on you. And you're the one evading.

 

[MattusMaximus]

This thread needs more shouting!

 

[fullflavormenthol]

Don't you people know that historically Galileo and Madison were partners? I mean there is a long history of them teaming up and solving crimes. That was of course until Di Vince used a mind control ray on both of them and turned them to evil.

That was when Teddy Roosevelt had to team up with golden age Teddy Roosevelt and exile them into space. Even now, with the help of Lord Xenu, Madison and Galileo plot their revenge against the Earth.

Our only hope is that Cyber Lincoln, with the help of zombie Tesla, will be able to figure out a way to stop them using the lab located in his Log Cabin of Solitute at the North Pole.

 

[Upchurch]

You just don't have a good enough education to understand the concepts of James Madison.

I don't? How would you know that? Can you tell me what my educational background is?


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