Christopher Dufresne

[Brattus]

Hello Brattus! I'd never put you or anyone else on ignore unless you were really, really mean to me. Just kidding. I'm Irish and we like to argue. As far as believing in other psychics, I'm pretty agnostic on that front. I believe we all get hunches or feelings but I doubt if anyone can sit down and predict the future. I mean, where were all of them on 9/11, etc. If I could predict the future, I'd sure as hell play certain lottery numbers and win over and over again. The only "woo" thing I believe in are ghosts--99.9% of hauntings are explainable but I've seen a ghost. And I was sober (that time). Beyond that, I'm pretty skeptical....SB made sure of that--and I think that's a good thing (to quote Martha Stewart).

It is a good thing. You have proved a point I was trying to make in another thread.
You found out that Sylvia was full of .... and at the time that hurt you and shook your beliefs all up. It also probably made you feel rather foolish.

But you used that pain and humiliation as a teacher and learned from it.
You came out a much better and stronger person for it.
Good for you and it is for sure a good thing.

Ghost on the other hand simply can not be real.
If they were then everyone would see them.
People would be conversing with their dead loved ones all the time.
It would make life and living very difficult.
Can you imagine having one of your loved ones that died always with you?
Following you where ever you go? Telling you the future about everything?
"Don't take that job" "Don't drive down that road" "Don't eat that" " Don't sit there"
It would suck big time!
Most people would be like "Shut up already and let me live my own life!"

When people die they are dead and that is that.
All the more reason to cherish the moments.

 

[Senex]

The only "woo" thing I believe in are ghosts--99.9% of hauntings are explainable but I've seen a ghost. And I was sober (that time). Beyond that, I'm pretty skeptical....SB made sure of that--and I think that's a good thing (to quote Martha Stewart).

So, Lady-mockington (you are a girl(?), I've been fooled before). Let's focus on that one time about the ghost. Was it in a bed and breakfast/hotel/motel? Sometimes these spooks follow you into these types of places. I consider myself a paranormal hunter of sorts. Let's investigate together.

Sobriety non-essentiaL

 

[GT/CS]

So, Lady-mockington (you are a girl(?), I've been fooled before).
<snip>

Only on the internet, I hope.

 

[Brattus]

Paragraphs, please.

Don't beg. It makes you look sooo weak.

 

[Brattus]

The second thing is that he's... well, he's not exactly the brightest bulb. OK, as my husband says, he's just too stupid. Says my husband, who also knows Chris personally, "He's too stupid to be on stage. He'd expose himself as a fraud after he opened his mouth for 5 minutes."

Yeah, I try to put a polite spin on things (or as RSL has recently said, I take classes in under-statement). My husband is right. Where did I read recently that Chris told someone their relatives were busy on the other side right at the moment and not available to speak with them?

That's probably the reason you don't see him up there more often (ever??).

So if following in his mom's footsteps involves being on stage or on TV, it's not going to go well.

Anyway, that's also probably the reason he hasn't pretended to trance channel his own spirit guide; he'd screw it up. Like I said, all he seems to be able to do is parrot his mom's philosophy and do readings.

Maybe that's the reason they've had their hopes set on Angelia, who Browne claims in one of her recent books to be encouraging to major in drama. What they need is another family member who is bright and eager to be in the spotlight.

Do you believe that Sylvia Browne is bright and eager?
She has always came off to me as rather trailer trashy dull.
I have seen bag women talking to themselves as they push their shopping cart that look and act just like Sylvia Browne.

It makes no difference if they shine a light on an empty chair (claiming the spirit of Sylvia is there) or have her idiot kid babble on stage.
Those fools will still wait in line with money in hand.

It's not so much how smart Sylvia is but how stupid her victims are.

 

[ExMinister]

Do you believe that Sylvia Browne is bright and eager?
She has always came off to me as rather trailer trashy dull.
I have seen bag women talking to themselves as they push their shopping cart that look and act just like Sylvia Browne.

It makes no difference if they shine a light on an empty chair (claiming the spirit of Sylvia is there) or have her idiot kid babble on stage.
Those fools will still wait in line with money in hand.

It's not so much how smart Sylvia is but how stupid her victims are.

Brattus, you didn't know her 20 years ago. I've discussed this in other places so I won't bore everyone with my opinion on this again, but Sylvia now is much different. She's in her 70s, her voice is shot, she seems tired and like her thinking processes have slowed down. I sat through one of her lectures in 2003 and I was really surprised by how old she seemed and how she just covered the same old tired material. It's not at all the way it was when she was in her 50s and passionate about what she was doing. She had charisma and she was funny and she seemed to put her whole heart into what she was saying. She didn't come off sounding cruel or short-tempered the way she so often does now.

It IS about how smart Sylvia was. She was clever. IIRC she was nominated Business Woman of the Year at one point. She was charismatic and determined to start her church and get the message out to the world and make a name for herself (I have no idea which of those motives was stronger) by landing a spot on a show like Montel, and she succeeded. We could go around in circles all day, speculating about whether she's got some sort of narcissistic personality disorder or other way of justifying what she's done, but she didn't get as far as she did by being the way she is now.

Please can we stop referring to her fans as stupid?

Again, by claiming she had a direct connection to the other side through her spirit guide, Sylvia Browne manages to set herself up as the next best thing to being able to talk to God. Is that not clever? Diabolically so, perhaps, but clever.

Chris hasn't done that. I'm not sure Chris is even capable of it. I really do think he'd give himself away if given half a chance, and I just don't think he knows how to hide his ego. I think he's passionate about the idea of being seen as having psychic ability, spending the money and getting to bask and share in the glow of his mother's fame. That's just one person's opinion, of course.

I could be wrong. Maybe he will suddenly step up and pretend to be in contact with his mother or with his own spirit guide, maybe he will suddenly develop a sense of humor and a showman's presence like his mom had, maybe he will suddenly be able to convey a passion and a presence the way she did in her 50s. He's always seemed to be into his looks, and maybe he's attractive enough to build a fan base on that (I never thought so, but maybe that's just because I didn't like his personality).

So, yeah, seems doubtful to me but who knows.

But I really don't think all of these people are stupid. I won't argue with you about this anymore since you seem pretty determined to disagree. I think Sylvia Browne was talented (in a show biz sense) enough to sell Montel on having her on as a regular guest, and she'd been talented enough to set herself up as having a unique connection to the other side.

People have all sorts of reasons that set them up to believe in someone like Sylvia Browne, from the way they are raised to personal paranormal type experiences to sheer desperation, that have nothing to do with level of intelligence.

What I don't sympathize with is when people have seen the evidence as presented on Robert Lancaster's web site and still insist on believing. Now that seems stupid to me. And if I had done that and later seen the light and someone called me stupid, I'd probably have to agree. But still I think there's hope for them, too, and I can't know their motivations. Maybe they think it's all concocted by Robert Lancaster to be biased against Sylvia Browne from the start and refuse to even read it. Maybe they think the ministers who've contributed to the articles had grudges against her. Who knows.

I hope that's helped to shed more light on the Browne situation overall and will help you understand why I don't think it's right to over-generalize the whole population of believers into "stupid."

Note: In case anyone here is curious, I don't feel humiliated or stupid for having been a Sylvia Browne believer. I did feel that way to some extent at first, though mostly I was mad at her and felt betrayed since I'd considered her a friend. I felt a strong obligation to try to make it up to people in general for having shared her philosophy in trying to help people, knowing now that it was all made up. One way I tried to do that was by helping RSL. But I now see that I had my reasons for believing and they were decent enough reasons at the time, based on my lack of awareness of the level of deception in the world and my own personal background. When I found out the truth, I dropped it and moved on and let it be a learning experience. I think that's all any of us can be expected to do.

 

[Senex]

Note: In case anyone here is curious, I don't feel humiliated or stupid for having been a Sylvia Browne believer. I did feel that way to some extent at first, though mostly I was mad at her and felt betrayed since I'd considered her a friend. I felt a strong obligation to try to make it up to people in general for having shared her philosophy in trying to help people, knowing now that it was all made up. One way I tried to do that was by helping RSL. But I now see that I had my reasons for believing and they were decent enough reasons at the time, based on my lack of awareness of the level of deception in the world and my own personal background. When I found out the truth, I dropped it and moved on and let it be a learning experience. I think that's all any of us can be expected to do.

When I was in college I bent keys for perfomance purposes. I was the woo several dozen times in my life. Your discussion with Brattus makes no sense. You agree on principle. Lovers quaerlls

 

[Brattus]

Sorry Ex, but stupid is what stupid does.
I don't wish to argue either. Actually I thought we were discussing it quite nicely.
I have seen old video footage of Sylvia and I can't see any difference other than she is slower due to age.
I think maybe you are the one that has changed. When your mind was in a different place you saw Sylvia as more than she was.
Now that you see the world around you differently you see Sylvia as she always has been.

I have read up on her church and her entire psychic crap she has sold for so many years.
I find it very hard to believe that ANYONE could buy into such nonsense.
The simple fact that so many have leads me to the only conclusion I can come to.
That those people are fools. Looking for a short cut through life and living.

I will admit though that at least Sylvia is smart enough to not buy into her own BS she sells.
Kind of like the drug dealer who doesn't use from his own supply.

To honestly listen to Sylvia Browne for just 5 minutes and not see the very poorly thought out narrative of her so called church is just pitiful.
Sylvia really didn't put a whole of thought into any of the junk she peddles.
I have no doubt she is as surprised as I am that it turned dollar one.

The one gift she does have is the Midas Touch. Whatever silly psychic after life throw the word God into scheme she came up with sold like hot cakes.

So if these professional people were so smart how come none of them ever did any fact checking? EVER!
They just swallowed anything Sylvia gave them waiting for Mr. Lancaster to come along and spell it out.
What Mr. Lancaster has done is simply state the facts.
The facts that he found without to much searching.

So once again just pitiful.

 

[desertgal]

Please can we stop referring to her fans as stupid?

But I really don't think all of these people are stupid.

People have all sorts of reasons that set them up to believe in someone like Sylvia Browne, from the way they are raised to personal paranormal type experiences to sheer desperation, that have nothing to do with level of intelligence.

Agreed.

What I don't sympathize with is when people have seen the evidence as presented on Robert Lancaster's web site and still insist on believing. Now that seems stupid to me.

Yes, those are the ones I don't get. Personally, I would chalk gullibility up as a learning experience and move on. But, and I've said this before, I think in many cases, it's a matter of ego. In my experience, if there's one thing that people find more embarrassing than being played for a fool, it is admitting that they've been played.

I hope that's helped to shed more light on the Browne situation overall and will help you understand why I don't think it's right to over-generalize the whole population of believers into "stupid."

Agreed. I've also noticed, in reading his correspondence with believers and former believers, that RSL attempts to convey, on his site, that a proactive approach to 'stopping' a psychic is attempting to understand the motivations of people who believe in them.

 

[ExMinister]

Sorry Ex, but stupid is what stupid does.
I don't wish to argue either. Actually I thought we were discussing it quite nicely.
I have seen old video footage of Sylvia and I can't see any difference other than she is slower due to age.
I think maybe you are the one that has changed. When your mind was in a different place you saw Sylvia as more than she was.
Now that you see the world around you differently you see Sylvia as she always has been.

I have read up on her church and her entire psychic crap she has sold for so many years.
I find it very hard to believe that ANYONE could buy into such nonsense.
The simple fact that so many have leads me to the only conclusion I can come to.
That those people are fools. Looking for a short cut through life and living.

I will admit though that at least Sylvia is smart enough to not buy into her own BS she sells.
Kind of like the drug dealer who doesn't use from his own supply.

To honestly listen to Sylvia Browne for just 5 minutes and not see the very poorly thought out narrative of her so called church is just pitiful.
Sylvia really didn't put a whole of thought into any of the junk she peddles.
I have no doubt she is as surprised as I am that it turned dollar one.

The one gift she does have is the Midas Touch. Whatever silly psychic after life throw the word God into scheme she came up with sold like hot cakes.

So if these professional people were so smart how come none of them ever did any fact checking? EVER!
They just swallowed anything Sylvia gave them waiting for Mr. Lancaster to come along and spell it out.
What Mr. Lancaster has done is simply state the facts.
The facts that he found without to much searching.

So once again just pitiful.

I still have quite a few of her lecture tapes from the 1980s and 1990s and I really can hear a dramatic difference, even now. My husband can, too.

I'm going to agree with you as far as the philosophy. It seemed to me that it just got sillier as the years went by, too. I still think she made up the whole Azna concept in her own image. Then again, the philosophy is also something that was relatively rational (as religions go) 20 years ago and then evolved into greater and greater weirdness.

As far as checking facts, I'm going to disagree with you on just one point here again. How do we know how many people have checked the facts over the years? Before Robert Lancaster came along with his Stop site, where would anyone go to share such facts? Maybe they dropped out of the church, but in doing so they took their information with them and everyone else was left to rediscover it for themselves.

I have suspected for a long time that Sylvia Browne and people like her count on this.

When I first noted the major discrepancies on her trance tapes and all the information piled up indicating that she was a fraud, Robert Lancaster's site was not yet in existence. I could never figure out why she didn't bother to at least not tell lies in public that her own ministers would know were lies. Then I realized it's because she believed she could count on one thing: No one would listen to us. She assumed we would never have a platform to stand on to tell what we knew.

So, with that in mind - Enter Robert Lancaster with his Stop Sylvia site. All of a sudden there is a place where people can share their experiences. Suddenly we do have a platform, her victims have a voice, and now there's a place where the facts can be gathered and the public has access to them just by doing a search for Browne herself.

I think it's safe to say that wasn't something she ever foresaw happening. I think she thought she could just say anything she wanted to say, whether or not it was recorded, and it would never come back to haunt her because even if someone bothered to check the facts, who would they tell?

So yeah, I think people have been discovering facts about Browne for years but just had no way to make them known to others. Robert's web site made that possible.

 

[Minarvia]

Hi, ExMinister. Thanks for your input here. When I first began posting here it was when Robert was planning and working on his site. I had mostly believed in Syvia. Funny, I didn't feel stupid. I thought her predictions were not so great, but I liked her personality at the time and enjoyed her books and things she said in them made (mostly) sense to me. Gradually, however, on reflection I began to see the light.

I had some of her tapes and you are absolutely right. She was funny and charming and I remember posting that she came off as someone you could identify with and who identified with her audience.

I remember how I laughed when she said she told her then husband Larry that if she died early to toss her body into her neighbor's yard because she disliked her neighbors!

But yes, she was so much more charismatic then and since she was on Montel and he helped many people I thought that lent her credibility. I'm thankful every day that I managed to see the light.

Then I sent a bunch of books and old newsletters to Robert.

And I hoped that Angelia would give up being Sylvia's "bagda" and become her own person some day when she was no longer a child.

 

[lady_mockington]

So, Lady-mockington (you are a girl(?), I've been fooled before). Let's focus on that one time about the ghost. Was it in a bed and breakfast/hotel/motel? Sometimes these spooks follow you into these types of places. I consider myself a paranormal hunter of sorts. Let's investigate together.

Sobriety non-essentiaL

The last time I checked, I was.

 

[ExMinister]

When I was in college I bent keys for perfomance purposes. I was the woo several dozen times in my life. Your discussion with Brattus makes no sense. You agree on principle. Lovers quaerlls

Sorry Senex, I missed this this morning. In what way doesn't it make sense? I agree with Brattus on some things, we disagree on others.

Hi, ExMinister. Thanks for your input here. When I first began posting here it was when Robert was planning and working on his site. I had mostly believed in Syvia. Funny, I didn't feel stupid. I thought her predictions were not so great, but I liked her personality at the time and enjoyed her books and things she said in them made (mostly) sense to me. Gradually, however, on reflection I began to see the light.

I had some of her tapes and you are absolutely right. She was funny and charming and I remember posting that she came off as someone you could identify with and who identified with her audience.

I remember how I laughed when she said she told her then husband Larry that if she died early to toss her body into her neighbor's yard because she disliked her neighbors!

But yes, she was so much more charismatic then and since she was on Montel and he helped many people I thought that lent her credibility. I'm thankful every day that I managed to see the light.

Then I sent a bunch of books and old newsletters to Robert.

And I hoped that Angelia would give up being Sylvia's "bagda" and become her own person some day when she was no longer a child.

Thanks Minarvia. I didn't know you used to be a fan of hers, too. And nice to know you understand what I'm talking about with regard to Sylvia Browne and how she's changed over the years.

 

[Brattus]

I still have quite a few of her lecture tapes from the 1980s and 1990s and I really can hear a dramatic difference, even now. My husband can, too.

I'm going to agree with you as far as the philosophy. It seemed to me that it just got sillier as the years went by, too. I still think she made up the whole Azna concept in her own image. Then again, the philosophy is also something that was relatively rational (as religions go) 20 years ago and then evolved into greater and greater weirdness.

As far as checking facts, I'm going to disagree with you on just one point here again. How do we know how many people have checked the facts over the years? Before Robert Lancaster came along with his Stop site, where would anyone go to share such facts? Maybe they dropped out of the church, but in doing so they took their information with them and everyone else was left to rediscover it for themselves.

I have suspected for a long time that Sylvia Browne and people like her count on this.

When I first noted the major discrepancies on her trance tapes and all the information piled up indicating that she was a fraud, Robert Lancaster's site was not yet in existence. I could never figure out why she didn't bother to at least not tell lies in public that her own ministers would know were lies. Then I realized it's because she believed she could count on one thing: No one would listen to us. She assumed we would never have a platform to stand on to tell what we knew.

So, with that in mind - Enter Robert Lancaster with his Stop Sylvia site. All of a sudden there is a place where people can share their experiences. Suddenly we do have a platform, her victims have a voice, and now there's a place where the facts can be gathered and the public has access to them just by doing a search for Browne herself.

I think it's safe to say that wasn't something she ever foresaw happening. I think she thought she could just say anything she wanted to say, whether or not it was recorded, and it would never come back to haunt her because even if someone bothered to check the facts, who would they tell?

So yeah, I think people have been discovering facts about Browne for years but just had no way to make them known to others. Robert's web site made that possible.

Yes I agree with you about people leaving and not saying anything.
So I could be wrong about no one ever doing any fact checking.

I will also admit I find it almost impossible to put myself into the mindset it would take to buy into any of Sylvia Brownes gibberish.
That is exactly how it sounds to me, gibberish.
A spirit guide named Francine?
That just sounds really stupid to me from the get go.

If she has a spirit guide then why don't you have one too?
Why doesn't everyone have one?

The way I see it is people just bought into it without any real thought to what they were doing at all.
The same way someone would drive their car into a brick wall at high speed.
Once they got out of the hospital and you asked them why they did it they say "well it seemed like a good idea at the time".

Most people would call that stupid.

I have no doubt that your husband is a great guy.
But just because he agrees with you does not make you right on how Sylvia's gnostic gibberish made any sense at all.

Sylvia is smart enough to know that people are not buying her ideas or her books that are all exactly the same with a different title.
Sylvia knows that people are buying her.
She sells herself and the foolish line up with money in hand to buy.

That is all she has to sell.

Mr. Lancaster's site is not a place where people can share anything.
It is a fact based site that shows the facts about how she has never been correct about anything she has ever "foreseen".

But I sure didn't need to read Mr. Lancaster's site to know that no one has spirit guides named Francine or Fred or even spirit guide.

We can go round and round about this but the fact remains.
The people that at one time followed, supported and provided income to Sylvia Browne were foolish in doing so.
The people that follow, support and provide income for Sylvia Browne now are foolish for doing so.

The quicker that those that have come to their senses regarding their belief in Sylvia Browne realize what fools they were, the quicker they can learn from it and hopefully use their brain a little the next time they run across another nonsense fraud.

 

[Brattus]

Also just so there is no misunderstandings.
Even though I could never be reeled in by Sylvia Browne and her like I have done many a stupid thing in my life.

When I was younger I kept making the same mistakes over and over again.
As I got older I began to learn from my mistakes.

My point being when I do stupid things I tell myself I was stupid to do it.
That helps me learn and remember so I don't make the same mistake twice.

So even though I say the followers of Sylvia Browne past and present were and are foolish I am not saying they are bad people or unworthy or anything like that.

But I see so many people on this forum put 100% of the blame on Sylvia Browne when that simply isn't true.
Like when Mr. Lancaster likened his site with saving mugging victims.
People see her on TV, they like what they see and hear, they go to her.

People don't seek out muggers and go to them to be mugged.

So the fools that follow Sylvia are not bad people they are just people making stupid decisions and following through on them.

 

[RSLancastr]

But I see so many people on this forum put 100% of the blame on Sylvia Browne when that simply isn't true.

Brattus, if you are referring to the thread I think you are, you are mischaraterizing it. In that thread, you said that 100% of the blame was on the believers. that Browne could not be blamed if people were foolish enough to believe in her "abilities." And several of us firmly disagreed with you. I was not saying that Browne should get 100% of the blame, but that she was by no means blameless, which was what you seemed to be saying. I think that the believers, when they realize they have been duped, need to own up to their portion of the blame. But that is THEIR job, not ours.

 

[Francine]

Dear Forum Members,

I would like to take a moment this evening to introduce myself. My name is Francine and I am Sylvia's spirit guide. I have posted in another thread but I'm just getting used to this whole internet thing. Please have patience with me.

To settle the dispute, yes, Christopher Dufresne was arrested for driving under the influence. Sylvia has lied and covered this up, saying that he fell asleep at the wheel. She has twisted this by making her fans feel sympathetic that he was in a car accident, and then having them feel relieved that he was ok. She also tells them "Thank Azna" that he woke up in time or the accident could have been worse. For those of you who do not know, Azna is Sylvia's name for Mother God.

Sylvia has said that Christopher's accident was an "exit point" for him and that he did not take it because he has so much more work to do here helping people.

If you are interested, here is a link to another one of Christopher Dufresne's vehicles:

http: / / w w w. youtube. com/ watch? v=ycY dKRT bJU4

I have added spaces where they are unnecessary because I am too new in this forum to post links. Put it all together and you will find the link.

Yes, this was really his car. This is merely one of many exotic cars in his collection, which Sylvia pays for with money earned from readings, lectures, book sales, and other appearances.

How do I know this? Because I see everything.

Until my next post.

Francine

 

[ExMinister]

Dear Forum Members,

I would like to take a moment this evening to introduce myself. My name is Francine and I am Sylvia's spirit guide. I have posted in another thread but I'm just getting used to this whole internet thing. Please have patience with me.

To settle the dispute, yes, Christopher Dufresne was arrested for driving under the influence. Sylvia has lied and covered this up, saying that he fell asleep at the wheel. She has twisted this by making her fans feel sympathetic that he was in a car accident, and then having them feel relieved that he was ok. She also tells them "Thank Azna" that he woke up in time or the accident could have been worse. For those of you who do not know, Azna is Sylvia's name for Mother God.

Sylvia has said that Christopher's accident was an "exit point" for him and that he did not take it because he has so much more work to do here helping people.

For those of you who are interested, here is a link to another one of Christopher Dufresne's vehicles:

http: / / w w w. youtube. com/ watch? v=ycY dKRT bJU4

I have added spaces where they are unnecessary because I am too new in this forum to post links. Put it all together and you will find the link.

Yes, this was really his car. This is merely one of many exotic cars in his collection, which Sylvia pays for with money earned from readings, lectures, book sales, and other appearances.

How do I know this? Because I see everything.

Until my next post.

Francine

Welcome to the forum Francine!

Her spin on the Chris situation and attempt to manipulate her fans that way is quite typical, isn't it. I've enjoyed your rendition of the events. I recall hearing about the cars but I'd forgotten. I've also heard he's quite extravagant with dinners and limousines and such.

I'm sure we all look forward to more of your all-seeingness.

Regards to Raheim by the way. Always felt sort of bad for him, with his guardee, Dal, having become a dark entity and him having to defect over to Sylvia's side. Well, until she and Dal became friends again and then I guess Dal must have turned back into a white entity and could have his guide back. Oh, but Sylvia said dark entities can't ever become white entities.... Er, well, never mind.

ExM

 

[Francine]

Dear Nancy,

It's nice to see you again after all these years.
Thank you for the kind response.

Sylvia has a way of creating her own reality, and then when that becomes inconvenient, she simply changes the rules. This is quite typical of her behavior and I am ashamed to admit that I am her guide. We had some good times, she and I, but there's only so much that one Aztec/Incan woman can handle.

Take for instance all the times she said that each person has one spirit guide. She increasingly became more accessible to people and a number of the same people go on her trips abroad, to book signings, and to see her lecture. They have the opportunity to ask her questions on multiple occasions. She cannot possibly keep everything that she has said to people straight over the years and even when I try to tell her, SHE JUST WON'T LISTEN!

Well, so many people asked her what their guide's name was, and then when she came up with a different name, they asked why it's different than the time she told them before. Poof! She changed the rules and had the nerve to tell everyone that I SAID that some people have more than one guide. I never said that! But she uses me as the scape goat time and again, saying that I have come forth with new information. You know, I really don't appreciate this one bit. I don't withhold information, thank you very much.

To top it off, she told all of her staff to tell clients that they can only have one psychic reading per lifetime with her. They are forced to say that it's because her waiting list is so long, that she wants to be fair to everyone and give them a chance for one reading. Wrong! The real reason is because she can't remember what she's told people and inevitably, the repeat clients that she had would ask her some of the same things from their first reading. Again, she changed the rules.

OMG!!

Sorry, I just get so worked up sometimes.

Until my next post.

Francine

 

[ExMinister]

Good morning, Francine!

First let me say that I am really enjoying your posts and your recent thread!

Now, that thread where you admitted you all love to imbibe the "spirits" over there (wink wink), I must say does help to finally explain why there were so many inconsistencies in your trance sessions over the years (wink wink). It all makes sense now! Party on, I say! By all means! At any rate, so I will just point out that I am not Nancy. I go way, way back to the late 1980s/early 1990s and then turned up again in 2003 or so, so you may have missed me, being as busy as you must have been trying to help Sylvia keep her stories straight. Haven't seen Nancy posting here in quite a long while and didn't know her personally.

Keep up the posts! They're a lot of fun.

ExM