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BOYS NIGHT MARES SUGGEST PAST LIFE(cnn debate)

dropzone said:
I sit here waiting to read the kid's complete medical history. It shan't be forthcoming, I fear.
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Third hand anecdotes told by anonymous forum members are always what I use to guide my life by.:rolleyes:
 
Limbo said:
Oh. Ok I'll just take your word for it.

Sorry if you found The Power of Myth lacking. Many people are impressed with it, it's one of PBS's most popular award-winning series. But I posted it and you found it lacking. What an amazing coincidence.
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Argumentum ad PBS.

Did it ever occur to you that some of us may have seen those programs before and found them wanting so feel no need to go back over that ground?

You are acting like a teenager that has just "discovered" sex and now feels obligated to tell the rest of us how to do it.

It's mildly embarrassing.
 
MikeSun5 said:
There are billions more people now than there were 2000 years ago. That either means only the original souls get recycled and reincarnated, while other souls are waiting "on deck" for their first attempt at life.
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Most reincarnationists believe in a non-physical realm of existence; see, for example, the Buddhist concept of six realms at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms. Also, some reincarnationists believe in transmigration between humans and non-humans. Finally, if there are other planets in the universe that harbor life, souls could move from planet to planet.
 
tsig said:
Third hand anecdotes told by anonymous forum members are always what I use to guide my life by.:rolleyes:
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How about first hand accounts by the boy's father -- a medical doctor -- and the boy's ear, nose and throat specialist?:rolleyes:
 
No/yes. It's a satire of the incorrect spelling used by the opening postuer in that thread.
 
My entire participation in this thread has been satire. A satire of special pleadings by woos. The presupposition is that reincarnation claimants (the boy) ought to at least have their facts in order concerning the past life. I used an oddball special plead with a character like Longtabber PE. What if you were the reincarnation of a bullsh*****? Your facts about the past life would be all screwed up (false) but you would still be a genuine reincarnation. It's because you are a reincarnated liar. A reincarnated possur.

I've also said that if you have to explain a joke... it wasn't any good. Sorry.
 
On the other hand, I'm a horrific grammar nazi. Any joke relying on bad spelling or grammar has a chance to fly over my rage-filled head as I compose a letter to The Times bemoaning the state of modern education.
 
The JREF thread subject lines are chock full of errors. I've never seen a forum that had so many bad spellers.
 
Limbo said:
Oh. Ok I'll just take your word for it.

Sorry if you found The Power of Myth lacking. Many people are impressed with it, it's one of PBS's most popular award-winning series. But I posted it and you found it lacking. What an amazing coincidence.
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I should have been clearer. The movie was fine. I find comparative mythology to be an interesting topic. In my opinion it shows that all humans deal with the same concerns and reach for explanations, even bad ones, in similar ways. What I found lacking was the evidence for your point of view.
 
Rodney said:
Most reincarnationists believe in a non-physical realm of existence; see, for example, the Buddhist concept of six realms at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Six_realms. Also, some reincarnationists believe in transmigration between humans and non-humans. Finally, if there are other planets in the universe that harbor life, souls could move from planet to planet.
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So now animals can be reincarnated into humans, and vice versa? Same goes with beings on other planets? Wow. That's just... convenient. :rolleyes: Convenience and happy accidents seem to be common in reincarnation stories. The kid was 2 when his dreams supposedly started happening, and he's 11 now. Eleven year olds can remember way more stuff than 2 year olds can. That's convenient they waited. But wait! Memories from past lives fade as you get older (even if you really REALLY want to remember) so any deviations from history can be explained by the reincarnate's age. What an unlucky coincidence for science! :rolleyes:

As for the Buddhist six-realm idea, it would seem that the 5 realms that are not the "human" realm are steadily giving up their populations to the "human" realm. Are they going to run out soon? Probably not, right? I'm sure the Buddhists/Hindus have an out.

...funny thing though, that the parents of the boy were NOT Buddhist or Hindu. They're white people from Louisiana, and odds are they're Christian (who aren't supposed to believe in reincarnation). I don't think these people are Christian parents of a reincarnated WWII pilot, I think they're media hungry child pimps.
 
Rodney said:
And I am referring to the complete lack of KingMerv00 watching the videos. The second one is particularly interesting: A 4-year old boy was plagued by throat problems, caused by a large cyst. He underwent a tonsillectomy, preparatory to additional surgery to remove the cyst. At that point, he told his mother he had died in WWI, having been shot in the throat. Then, inexplicably, his throat cyst disappeared. Neither the boy's father -- a medical doctor -- nor the boy's ear, nose, and throat specialist can explain why the cyst disappeared.
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His father said that it was different from his experience with cysts, but we weren't given any information as to whether or not he had much experience. He is shown with an adult patient, which would lead you to wonder how much experience he would have with what is usually a pediatric condition.

Unfortunately, the video stops before we can hear what the specialist thought of it. It shows him saying that he can't explain it, but without the context, I don't know whether he was referring to some aspect of the cyst or something else. The mother indicated a midline cyst which suggests a thyroglossal duct cyst. These can drain spontaneously, as can other kinds of cysts, especially those associated with an opening, like a sinus tract.

The kind of useful information that we'd expect to find - the publication of the case report - was not presented. Instead we are given information known to be unreliable - recollection well after the fact. Maybe there was
more information available since the part I saw was obviously truncated?

Linda
 
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Sledge said:
On the other hand, I'm a horrific grammar nazi. Any joke relying on bad spelling or grammar has a chance to fly over my rage-filled head as I compose a letter to The Times bemoaning the state of modern education.
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<<frantic applause>>

[Except, of course, for "Pie aren't square. Pie are round. Cornbread are square."]
 
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Rodney said:
How about first hand accounts by the boy's father -- a medical doctor -- and the boy's ear, nose and throat specialist?:rolleyes:
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Where does the soul reside in the eye the ear or the nose and throat?
 
fls said:
His father said that it was different from his experience with cysts, but we weren't given any information as to whether or not he had much experience. He is shown with an adult patient, which would lead you to wonder how much experience he would have with what is usually a pediatric condition.

Unfortunately, the video stops before we can hear what the specialist thought of it. It shows him saying that he can't explain it, but without the context, I don't know whether he was referring to some aspect of the cyst or something else. The mother indicated a midline cyst which suggests a thyroglossal duct cyst. These can drain spontaneously, as can other kinds of cysts, especially those associated with an opening, like a sinus tract.
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How much experience do you have with cysts in young children? Dr. Levine presumably is referring to the disappearance of Edward's cyst when he says: "There are some things that I just can't explain, and this is one."

fls said:
The kind of useful information that we'd expect to find - the publication of the case report - was not presented. Instead we are given information known to be unreliable - recollection well after the fact. Maybe there was more information available since the part I saw was obviously truncated?
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I agree that we need more information, but how do you know that the recollection was "well after the fact"?
 
Elizabeth I said:
What the hell is a possur?
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Elizabeth, I'm fairly sure the word intended is poseur or poser, i.e. someone who is pretending to be a member of a class, or sub-culture.

Wiki Entry on Poseur

It's an old term [see above] but is commonly used in Australia [at least from my experience] as "poser".

For example, I trained with a young man who claimed to have lost his leg, on a military mission, during the Falklands war. His mother explained to a group of us that (a) he had never been in the military; and (b) he lost his leg when he fell off his motorcycle, while drunk.

Thus, a classic "poser".
 
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