Split Thread USA Bankers Magazine/Protocols of the Elders of Zion

[jmh423]

*sigh*

No... they weren't.

I goggled "American Bankers Association Digest 1924" and the only reference to it that I could find was another anti-semitic hate site. In fact, it appears that the publication you described doesn't exist.

You have been owned by someone who said the things that you wanted to hear.

From the "hate site" google questions:

What is implied by the following US Bankers Magazine article excerpt:?
USA Banker's Magazine, August 25 1924 -

"Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers.

This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world.

By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished."

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

From the "hate site" google questions:

Just because you posted the same thing on multiple different websites doesn't make the quote reliable.

 

[jmh423]

Just because you posted the same thing on multiple different websites doesn't make the quote reliable.

Are you suggesting that the excerpt from the article from August 1924 was never really printed and that it was just made up by anti-semites? Is that what you really believe? You are really a hoot!

 

[jmh423]

From the "hate site" google questions:

What is implied by the following US Bankers Magazine article excerpt:?
USA Banker's Magazine, August 25 1924 -

"Capital must protect itself in every possible manner by combination and legislation. Debts must be collected, bonds and mortgages must be foreclosed as rapidly as possible. When, through a process of law, the common people lose their homes they will become more docile and more easily governed through the influence of the strong arm of government, applied by a central power of wealth under control of leading financiers.

This truth is well known among our principal men now engaged in forming an imperialism of Capital to govern the world.

By dividing the voters through the political party system, we can get them to expend their energies in fighting over questions of no importance. Thus by discreet action we can secure for ourselves what has been so well planned and so successfully accomplished."

Was this really printed in USA Bankers Magazine on August 25th 1924 or was it as the mighty and swift "Sword_Of_Truth" suggests another fiendish plot hatched by anti-semites to make the benevolent bankers look bad? Your comments are welcomed and appreciated. Thank You

 

[Thunder]

Are you suggesting that the excerpt from the article from August 1924 was never really printed and that it was just made up by anti-semites? Is that what you really believe? You are really a hoot!

Um...Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That's a hoax/plaguerism. so what's new?

anti-Semites will say anything to get Jews killed. it happens all the time.

 

[jmh423]

Um...Protocols of the Elders of Zion. That's a hoax/plaguerism. so what's new?

anti-Semites will say anything to get Jews killed. it happens all the time.

Um...SOMEBODY wrote the Protocols....Are you aware that it was punishable by death to circulate the so called protocols in the USSR at one time? I wonder what the commies were so afraid of?



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http://www.rense.com/general66/proto.htm

Excerpt:

'Protocols Of Zion' -
A Non-Zionist
Jewish Perspective
Letter to the Editor
By Joseph Weinstein
6-26-5


(Because of the continuing interest in this subject, I would be interested in hearing comments...but please ONLY from people who have actually READ the entire book. I am well familiar with the hoax theories about their authorship and so forth. Please send comments to rense.com...they will be forwarded to me. --JW)

Dear Mr. Rense,

The 'controversy' about who wrote the Protocols continues. However, the obvious, practical conclusion is that it doesn't make any difference WHO wrote them. The argument about authorship and hoax theories are utterly MOOT. This 'controversy' is usually seated among people who have NOT read them.

Anyone I know who has actually read them has no doubt about them and what they represent. The Protocols, no matter who penned them, are the key to understanding the current collapse of our civilization.

The wholesale extermination of Moslems in Iraq and Afghanistan indicates to me in NO uncertain terms, that we are clearly at the beginning of WW3. The endless lies in the controlled media about 911 and Iraq war have forced me to, again, review the Protocols. The simple, blatant FACT is that a very small group of Zionist Jews have implemented virtually every one of Protocols. And all that has been done behind the backs and without the knowledge of 99% of we Jews.

I have just reread the Protocols once again (maybe for the tenth time): http://www.biblebelievers.org.au/przion1.htm

And, as always, I remain amazed...absolutely AMAZED. Each time I reread it, I am discovering new implementations of the Protocols, and how the protocols are slowly confiscating our properties, eroding our economies and the civil rights of the populations in western countries, and the stupid Goyim STILL do not realise it......."
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Hey Parky, Do you believe that Mr Weinstein is just another anti-semite who will do anything to get Jews killed? How feindish!!

 

[Thunder]

Um...SOMEBODY wrote the Protocols....Are you aware that it was punishable by death to circulate the so called protocols in the USSR at one time? I wonder what the commies were so afraid of?

wait...i thought the commies were Jewish????? now the commies stopped distributing the Protocols out of FEAR of the evil Jews?

make up your mind.

anti-Semitism is evil.

by the way, JMH423, do you believe in white supremacy or white seperatism?

 

[jmh423]

wait...i thought the commies were Jewish????? now the commies stopped distributing the Protocols out of FEAR of the evil Jews?

make up your mind.

anti-Semitism is evil.

by the way, JMH423, do you believe in white supremacy or white seperatism?

You are right, anti-semitism is evil. Does this mean that you are against the nazi-like treatment of the native semitic people of Palistine by the foreign invaders, the Zionists?

I don't believe in "white supremacy" or white separatism. Do you believe in Jewish supremacy, as many of the leaders of Israel past and present?



"We declare openly that the Arabs have no right to settle on even one centimeter of Eretz Israel... Force is all they do or ever will understand. We shall use the ultimate force until the Palestinians come crawling to us on all fours."

Source given: Rafael Eitan, Chief of Staff of the Israeli Defense Forces, in articles by Gad Becker, Yediot Ahronot April 13, 1983 and in New York Times, April 14, 1983.......

Another anti-semite probably made this up!! Right parky?

 

[Thunder]

You are right, anti-semitism is evil. Does this mean that you are against the nazi-like treatment of the native semitic people of Palistine by the foreign invaders, the Zionists?

foreign invaders...you mean like the 800,000 Jews from North Africa and the Middle East?

do you realize how many LESS Jews there would be in Israel today, if it was not for Arab and Muslim anti-Semitism forcing them out? Israel's Jewish population is directly proportional to the hatred these communities faced in their former homelands.

deal with it. deal with the truth.

 

[jmh423]

foreign invaders...you mean like the 800,000 Jews from North Africa and the Middle East?

do you realize how many LESS Jews there would be in Israel today, if it was not for Arab and Muslim anti-Semitism forcing them out? Israel's Jewish population is directly proportional to the hatred these communities faced in their former homelands.

deal with it. deal with the truth.

The truth is that 90% of the native Palistinian population now lives in open air concentration camps in Gaza and the West Bank that are ruthlessly guarded by the Nazi-like Zionist right wing IDF. Deal with that...terrorist War Criminals control Israel, and have since its inception. What other nation has elected admitted terrorist bombers and racist genocidal maniacs like Begin and Sharon Prime Minister or President?

Dr Henry Makow:

"Why retell this story of Zionist-Nazi cooperation now?

Because "Jewish" leaders have been exploiting their "lesser brethren" for a long time, and are doing so today. Ordinary Jews pay the price and this price could rise.

In my opinion, Zionism is a movement to deceive Jews into advancing the objectives of British imperialism. (See, "The Jewish Conspiracy is British Imperialism") Zionists who have built their lives on a false premise naturally will reject this view.

Specifically, Jews helped the British-Jewish elite colonize the oil-rich Middle East under the pretext of Jews needing a national home. Despite the appearance of neutrality, the British (and Americans) financed, trained and equipped the Jews. (John Coleman, Diplomacy by Deception p. 107.)

The "British" are really the London-based international banking cartel associated with names like Rothschild and Rockefeller. It doesn't answer to any government. Its goal is to colonize the world and everyone in it. Jews are a means to this end.

As seen in Iraq, Zionists (a.k.a Neocons) play a major role in the colonization of the Middle East. The important thing to remember is that Israel is the creation of this cartel; both Israel and the US are its tools."

 

[Thunder]

What other nation has elected admitted terrorist bombers and racist genocidal maniacs like Begin and Sharon Prime Minister or President?

which nation has elected terrorists as leaders?

the Palestinians. The Austrians. I'm sure many others have.

 

[jmh423]

which nation has elected terrorists as leaders?

the Palestinians. The Austrians. I'm sure many others have.

I think the Red Chinese and the USSR also, and let's not forget Idi Amin....You are in fine company. Congratulations

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Um...SOMEBODY wrote the Protocols....Are you aware that it was punishable by death to circulate the so called protocols in the USSR at one time? I wonder what the commies were so afraid of?

If you knew anything about history, you would have known that "The Protocols" were used to whip people into mindless frenzies by two of the russian commies major enemies; the german nazis and the russian tzars.

I could write a book claiming that Lenin wore Victoria's Secret push-up bras under his clothes and had unnatural congress with goats and the commies would have banned such a book regardless of wether it was true or not, based entirely on the effect it would have had on their ability to reign over their slaves.

That "The Protocols" is true is a leap unsupported by logic, made by yourself because it speaks to your own biases against the jewish people.

Hey Parky, Do you believe that Mr Weinstein is just another anti-semite who will do anything to get Jews killed? How feindish!!

Yes, that's exactly what he is.

I'm not a psychiatrist or psychologist, so I'm not in any position as to imagine what might be in the mind of a person of jewish heritage that he would participate in acts of destruction against his own people (and this is assuming that the existence Mr. Weinstein isn't itself fabricated by the anti-semitic hate-site rense.com). But hate-speech is hate speech regardless of who promotes it.

Promoting "The Protocols" = pushing people into cattle cars and sending them to Auschwitz. That's what will happen if you do it enough.

 

[Thunder]

One cannot accept that the Protocols are legit, without being accurately labeled an anti-Semite. These documents are a CLEAR and PROVEN forgery of an earlier French document.

Basically, the document simply puts the words "Goy" to refer to the "bad people" and "Jew" to refer to the "good people". Plus, neither Zionism nor Israel as a modern state are EVER mentioned in the Protocols.

 

[Thunder]

Promoting "The Protocols" = pushing people into cattle cars and sending them to Auschwitz. That's what will happen if you do it enough.

indeed. the only purpose of advocating for the legitimacy of the Protocols is to exile all the Jews on Earth to a far away island, or to kill us all.

some of the anti-Jewish conspiracy theories voiced here are the exact same ones used to justify the persecution and murder of millions of Jews.

 

[jmh423]

indeed. the only purpose of advocating for the legitimacy of the Protocols is to exile all the Jews on Earth to a far away island, or to kill us all.

some of the anti-Jewish conspiracy theories voiced here are the exact same ones used to justify the persecution and murder of millions of Jews.

That is your opinion. I don't concur. I am in agreement with this assertion regarding the so called protocols.

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9064

Excerpt:

Maurice Joly Plagiarized "Protocols of Zion" (not vice-versa)
Henry Makow Ph.D. – Save the Males July 30, 2008

It is forbidden to mention the "Protocols of the Elders of Zion" (1905) without the Disclaimer that, of course, they are a "forgery" of Maurice Joly's "Dialogue in Hell Between Machiavelli and Montesquieu" (1864.)

The assumption is that since Protocols appeared some 40 years after Dialogue, it plagiarized the earlier work. But I will suggest that Protocols actually predated Dialogue and Joly borrowed from it. In other words, far from being an anti-Semitic ruse, the "Protocols of Zion" are authentic.

I have already argued that the two documents are neither similar nor derivative, although they have some lines and words in common. "The Protocols of the Elders of Zion" is essentially a brilliant Master Plan for tyranny, i.e. the New World Order. It is the key to understanding our present predicament. (This is not a condemnation of all Jews, only the nucleus of bankers and high-level Masons directing this diabolical war against the human race.)

"Dialogue in Hell" was a veiled Masonic Jewish attack on Napoleon III, an example of how they championed liberalism to undermine the Old Order and usurp power, as described in the Protocols themselves. (The author of Protocols is contemptuous of liberalism and all egalitarian programs. They are just gimmicks to manipulate the masses.)".........



I believe the protocols along with the Communist Manifesto should be mandatory reading by 10th grade in ANY free society, no matter who wrote them. The reason being is that they are being precicely executed over the last 100 years. Let's find out who is pulling the strings behind the curtain. I know that I do not advocate persecuting ANYONE based on race or religion. I am also certain that neither does Henry Makow or most all of the other anti-zionists worldwide. You and S_O_T are a couple of paranoid anti-semites, otherwise you wouldn't keep making weak excuses for the atrocious behavior of the racist supremicist Zionists who have been terrorizing the people of Palistine for over 60years. Own It Champ!!

 

[Thunder]

I believe the protocols along with the Communist Manifesto should be mandatory reading by 10th grade in ANY free society, no matter who wrote them. The reason being is that they are being precicely executed over the last 100 years. Let's find out who is pulling the strings behind the curtain. I know that I do not advocate persecuting ANYONE based on race or religion. I am also certain that neither does Henry Makow or most all of the other anti-zionists worldwide. You and S_O_T are a couple of paranoid anti-semites, otherwise you wouldn't keep making weak excuses for the atrocious behavior of the racist supremicist Zionists who have been terrorizing the people of Palistine for over 60years. Own It Champ!!

such an event would lead to a mass increase in anti-Jewish feelings and anti-Jewish violence. would you want such a thing to occur?

 

[twinstead]

I thought everybody knew the Protocols of Zion was a hoax, mostly based on earlier works of political satire. IIRC, that political satire wasn't even about the Jews.

Do you mean to tell me that there are still some idiots who think it's real? LOL

 

[Thunder]

after reading the Protocols, an angry teenager may want to go torch a Synagogue, beat up some Jews, of smash the windows of a Jewish owned store.

 

[jmh423]

I thought everybody knew the Protocols of Zion was a hoax, mostly based on earlier works of political satire. IIRC, that political satire wasn't even about the Jews.

Do you mean to tell me that there are still some idiots who think it's real? LOL

Most are ignorant of how the world really works. Some are enlightened and are wising up the men of goodwill both Jew and Gentile alike.....Such as:

http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=9064

Excerpt:

CONCLUSION

If your plan for World Domination leaked out, what would you do? Would you admit it? "You got me! My bad!"

No, you'd employ an army of ciphers to convince everyone the document is a hoax motivated by "prejudice" and "anti-Semitism." They have executed this "damage control" perfectly, a measure of their power to deceive even in the presence of the truth.

This is the only Conspiracy that has prevailed in spite of the Blueprint being freely available. It demonstrates the credulity (or venality) of the intelligentsia and the masses.

They have colonized our minds first. We cannot name our oppressor for fear of being accused of "anti-Semitism." It's as though Black slaves working on cotton plantations were taught it was "racist" or "prejudiced" to mention the White slave driver. Since the majority of Jews are ignorant of this plot, and are manipulated like everyone else, racism is a ploy to divert attention from a very dire problem.

The Illuminati (top-rung Masonic Jews and their non-Jewish allies) have distributed some wealth and power to the masses (liberalism, socialism) as a way of securing ultimate power for themselves. According to the Protocols, they will eventually withdraw these benefits once their "invisible government" is invincible. The "war on terror" should be seen in this context.

In my view, "Protocols Deniers" are complicit in this Conspiracy, which is responsible for most human suffering and will lead to a great deal more. As a Jew, I don't want this responsibility on my head, or on other innocent Jews or Masons.