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Why don't we just come clean about Global Warming?

Bill Thompson

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Why don't we just come clean about Global Warming? People respect honesty and this might be a good time to make use of honesty. I think we should just admit to people, "It does not matter if manmade global warming is real or not. What matters is that we act now in order to prevent it from becoming real. Also, we admit that this has been a tool for unifying world governments in a common cause. This will bring us all together and this is a good thing. Also, yes, we do have a one world government in mind. This is called progress. We are progressives. Just look at any story that people write about the future. They all have one world governments. It is a dream. We can make this dream come true. There will be no wars and less hardships if there is a one world government." One thing we can leave out, of course is the fact that we had to disguise our plans for world unity to keep the stupid neocons from finding out. They might not understand or appreciate that.
 
I can already tell this thread will be awesome.

(Do I win anything?)
 
Bill Thompson said:
Why don't we just come clean about Global Warming? People respect honesty and this might be a good time to make use of honesty. I think we should just admit to people, "It does not matter if manmade global warming is real or not. What matters is that we act now in order to prevent it from becoming real. Also, we admit that this has been a tool for unifying world governments in a common cause. This will bring us all together and this is a good thing. Also, yes, we do have a one world government in mind. This is called progress. We are progressives. Just look at any story that people write about the future. They all have one world governments. It is a dream. We can make this dream come true. There will be no wars and less hardships if there is a one world government." One thing we can leave out, of course is the fact that we had to disguise our plans for world unity to keep the stupid neocons from finding out. They might not understand or appreciate that.
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Is this your honest position on manmade global warming and one-world governments?
 
What would be good or progressive about a one-world government?
All other things being equal, this would make global tyranny much easier to introduce and sustain.
In contrast, if you have two or three hundred nation states there is a degree of 'competition' there.. i.e. if your own particular nation state becomes tyrannical you can move (or at least attempt to move) to a less tyrannical one. Plus other less tyrannical states can attempt to intervene and correct the more tyrannical states.
 
theprestige said:
Is this your honest position on manmade global warming and one-world governments?
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I believe it is the straw man of other people's position on global warming, brought to you by nearly the entirety of the JREF board who is of the opinion that the US is not a democracy.


Hilarity is almost certainly guaranteed.
:popcorn1
 
Doesn't anything mentioning "one world government" belong in the Conspiracies forum?
 
Ya it's pretty sad really.

I remember reading a Jones screed on the Rockefellers and the NWO and taking apart some report for a "globalist" NGO somewhere that listed things like the following as "trans-national" issues that require international cooperation:

- environmental problems (pollution doesn't have to pass through customs)
- criminal networks
- disease outbreaks

Jones went on to describe such items in the list as "trojan horses" for One World Government, the flimsy excuses proffered by the "globalists" to justify expansion of international cooperation.

So tell me, exactly how are atomized nations without an international archictecture of cooperation supposed to address transnational criminal, environmental and health issues?

Isn't international cooperation the only way?

I was a student of International Relations in uni and it was a little strange to come out of that environment and be confronted with such a simple-minded view of things...

Further, it is pretty ironic to see some of the greatest concerns of sovereignty eminating from America, a country whose power translates to increased influence through international cooperation since its influence guarantees the architecture of organizations and the "rules of the game" are suited to its self-interest.

Look at the IMF and the WTO for example... in the UN it has veto power. Various treaties were negotiated (im including CUFTA and NAFTA) with outcomes weighted heavily to US interests (for example, under CUFTA and cont'd in NAFTA, the US retained the right to assess countervailing and anti-dumping duties, a key concession sought by the Canadians - further, they stated that "any future act of congress" could amend their understanding of the treaties).

In a world of growing international cooperation the stronger states are not shedding sovereignty - they are in fact, enhancing it.
 
theprestige said:
Is this your honest position on manmade global warming and one-world governments?
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Well, it is my current position. You see, I did not jump on the bandwagon just because Al Gore was writing a book. I am not a climatologist so I waited to see what scientists had to say. So when the UN seemed to back it up, I believed it. But now it looks like it was all untrue. So, why did AL Gore talk about it? Maybe to sell a book? But I know some Democrats and some other people think a one world government would be a good idea. Do you think it is a wrong idea. How come?
 
All around the mulberry bush
The monkey chased the weasel;
The monkey thought 'twas all in fun,
Pop! goes the weasel.
 
Bill Thompson said:
What is funny about the OP?
Or absurd?
Or wrong?
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Absurd and wrong. Funny is subjective, but I think it is that as well.

You were maybe doing okay until you landed on this:
Also, we admit that this has been a tool for unifying world governments in a common cause. This will bring us all together and this is a good thing. Also, yes, we do have a one world government in mind. This is called progress. We are progressives. Just look at any story that people write about the future. They all have one world governments. It is a dream. We can make this dream come true. There will be no wars and less hardships if there is a one world government."
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For whom were you speaking when you wrote this? Certainly not the current Democratic Party nor any progressives I can immediately think of.
 
Bill Thompson said:
Why don't we just come clean about Global Warming? People respect honesty and this might be a good time to make use of honesty. I think we should just admit to people, "It does not matter if manmade global warming is real or not. What matters is that we act now in order to prevent it from becoming real.
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If it's not real, then there's no need to “act now in order to prevent it from becoming real”.

And even if it is real, it does no good at all to “act now in order to prevent it from becoming real”, if the act that is undertaken is one that will be ineffective at best, and which, in the course of being undertaken, will prove expensive and burdensome and destructive to freedom.
 
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