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Split Thread 'Nose-out' footage

Well, that's a much better way of putting it than I could ever, but when all is said and done, this means "bardamu, you don't know what you are talking about. Why should anybody listen to what you have to say?"

Yeah, but I was trying to demonstrate it, not just plaster the conclusion without support. One of the things I want to see is conspiracy peddlers attempt to support their arguments better. It seems like the last year has been full of unsupported contentions and little else (save for Heiwa; his explanations were full of it and disproven many times over, but you can't deny that he provided them). Back when I was new here these fantasists at least tried to provide reasons for their statements; today's crop just fires away and hopes that it sticks. That's lame.
 
t's even better if you go into 'user cp' and check the little box that says 'hide posts from members on your ignore list' or somesuch. That way you never see anything from them at all.

The only problem..if I did that..I wouldn't know who Beechnut was calling "Dirt Dumb". :)
 
Mac,

Just put a dartboard up on your wall, with the names of the idiots who usually spout useless BS around here, and everytime you see it, throw a dart. Whichever name appears, TA DA!! There's your answer!!
 
psst. thread is about the nose out footage. collapses, NIST and the like belong in the other threads.
 
Either post on topic or post somewhere else. This thread is supposed to be about the "nose-out" footage. If you want to discuss general collapse stuff, do it elsewhere.
Replying to this modbox in thread will be off topic  Posted By: Cuddles
 
I hope this post is on topic. I does directly relate to no-planes and therefore to the nose out scenario.

Webfairy thought that this was one of the indicators of why the planes were most likely fakes. The perps had to be guaranteed that the strikes would take place correctly.

'' What if any of the planes had missed hitting the towers? Do you think the perps would have pulled both towers? What if the plane aiming for the North Tower missed, you think the perps would still have pulled the WTC 7? ''

http://killtown.blogspot.com/2007/05/why-they-didnt-use-planes-to-hit-wtc.html
 
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Ypu shpuld swear the same blood-oath never to reply to my posts again just as dtugg did Dafydd.

I never reply to any of the ludicrious points you make,I just egg you on to making an even bigger fool of yourself.
 
What if they missed???

They are in a plane, that, last time I checked, was capable of turning in a 360 degree pattern, to give it another go at it.

HOLY SNIKEYS BATMAN!!
 
What if they missed???

They are in a plane, that, last time I checked, was capable of turning in a 360 degree pattern, to give it another go at it.

HOLY SNIKEYS BATMAN!!

Yeah, Suppose the planes were real and flight 175 missed the building altogether as many pilots say would happen five times our of six with a human pilot ?

The plane would plough into the ground at that angle and speed with no doubts whatsoever. What happens then ?The Perps are left with WTC2 all prepped for demolition. undamaged and with hundeds of first responders ready to go in and find the explosives that would prove an inside job, Are you with me so far ?

So what was their contingency plan B ?
 
I think it would be more like, The "truthers" saying they had to miss because they only wired one building. Then they would make up some crap about something it did hit on the ground.
 
Yeah, Suppose the planes were real and flight 175 missed the building altogether as many pilots say would happen five times our of six with a human pilot ?

The plane would plough into the ground at that angle and speed with no doubts whatsoever. What happens then ?The Perps are left with WTC2 all prepped for demolition. undamaged and with hundeds of first responders ready to go in and find the explosives that would prove an inside job, Are you with me so far ?

So what was their contingency plan B ?

Who is "their"?
 
Just over half of each wing had fuel inside at the time. The outside halves were empty.

Yup... and that is one of the reasons they were able to "slice" into the towers soooo easily.



I know you won't understand the math Ace... but at least try.
 
Yup... and that is one of the reasons they were able to "slice" into the towers soooo easily.



I know you won't understand the math Ace bardamu... but at least try.

Did you link to the wrong video? Just when I was looking forward to debunking the 'slug of fuel' nonsense, you ruined my day.
 
Yeah, Suppose the planes were real and flight 175 missed the building altogether as many pilots say would happen five times our of six with a human pilot ?

Iv'e done it on a flight sim with 5 minutes of training on my brother's computer. I was 6-6 that day.

I know the planes were real, as I saw the second one with my own eyes.

Can we get a linkey to these pilots who say you couldn't hit WTC 1&2 on the first go round?


The plane would plough into the ground at that angle and speed with no doubts whatsoever. What happens then ?The Perps are left with WTC2 all prepped for demolition. undamaged and with hundeds of first responders ready to go in and find the explosives that would prove an inside job, Are you with me so far ?

So what was their contingency plan B ?

Fly around and try again would be my guess. But, I don't know, as the pilots are all ******* dead.

Maybe we will find out what plan B was in the KSM trial, as he was in on it.

Ask him.
 
Yeah, Suppose the planes were real and flight 175 missed the building altogether as many pilots say would happen five times our of six with a human pilot ?

The plane would plough into the ground at that angle and speed with no doubts whatsoever. What happens then ?The Perps are left with WTC2 all prepped for demolition. undamaged and with hundeds of first responders ready to go in and find the explosives that would prove an inside job, Are you with me so far ?

So what was their contingency plan B ?

If they missed WTC2 and crashed elsewhere it would most likely not have collapsed but would likely have been seriously damaged in the collapse.

ETA: Also truthers would most likely be claiming that "there was no way those highly trained pilots could miss a target that big!!!1!!"
 
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If they missed WTC2 and crashed elsewhere it would most likely not have collapsed but would likely have been seriously damaged in the collapse.

ETA: Also truthers would most likely be claiming that "there was no way those highly trained pilots could miss a target that big!!!1!!"
Only the pilots at p4t dolt sanctuary are unable to hit the WTC towers and the Pentagon. All the buildings are much larger than most runways so only a few fringe idiots would say pilots can't hit a building.

Pilots land in a specific zone on the runway. Most airline pilots land within a few feet of center line on runways as small as 150 feet wide. The WTC towers were 207 feet wide, the Pentagon was the biggest target and the 70 foot tall sides are twice as tall as the runway threshold crossing height typical of some jets.

Terrorist pilots trained for years, had FAA licenses, and had time in large jet simulators. Saying pilots can't hit the buildings is as dumb as the nose-out delusion.

We have a nose-out delusion and we have the pilots at p4t paranoid 911 idea club saying they can't hit a building in the safety of a simulator. Take note of the pilots at p4t and don't fly with them, they can't hit a 207 foot wide building, they can't land on a 150 foot runway.

If you can hit buildings in FS you can do it in the real plane! Flying a 757/767 is easier then flying FS; the 707 and KC-135 have some control issues that may mess up your day; the 757/767 fly great. The terrorists wasted their money on flight training; most American kids can fly as well or better than the terrorist right off the street. (plus Canadian kids, New Zealand, Australia, all of Europe, Great Britain, Norway for sure gets another nod as they were represented in my Undergraduate Pilot Training class) The only pilots who can't fly better are with Balsamo at the house of nut case ideas on 911 called pilots for truth. Does Balsamo and p4t officially support the nose-out delusion?
 
The first time someone brought up PFFT to me on another board and said that there was a former fighter pilot who was also a retired 20 year+ airline pilot who said that he couldn't perform the maneuver that 77 did. I basically said something along the lines of "He can't land an airplane?". He didn't have any rebuttal other than repeating his appeal to authority. The total lack of common sense in truthers is amazing at times.
 
Did you link to the wrong video? Just when I was looking forward to debunking the 'slug of fuel' nonsense, you ruined my day.

Oops... you are right. That was episode three... which is about SCALE and momentum... still things you need to learn.
Episode one and episode two are about why the jets could and would do what they did.

episode 1
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...ysics+of+9/11&hl=en#docid=2636718609916624673

episode 2
http://video.google.com/videoplay?d...YwgPQ6uDLAw&q=hardfire+physics+of+9/11&hl=en#

feel free to debunk the physics. I eagerly await your thesis.
 
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