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Hardfire: Szamboti / Chandler / Mackey

Cl1mh4224rd said:
For the same reason they do absolutely nothing with all this "proof" they claim to already have: they simply want to perpetuate the illusion of doubt, suspicion, and mystery.

This is a grand adventure for them; a fantastic struggle between Good™ and Evil™. They don't want it to stop, even if they come out on top.

Many probably believe that this struggle is exactly what they were meant for. What would they do with themselves if it all came to an end?
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So the only thing worse than losing the game is winning?
 
BigAl said:
Troll. Reported.
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Just think too AL...the FD could have impounded every fire extinguisher within a square mile. Say tens of thousands of extinguishers in all. They could have easily put out those little itty-bitty initial fires that you can show us ? Because that is absolutely all ou can show us. (Readers note that the debunkers may now attempt to show later and slightly larger fires. The readers and I are looking for the initial pictures of fires in WTC7 that could easily be put out with the use of thousands of fire extinguishers (if they had been needed)

Or perhaps there was a lot of chaos and shock and people not thinking straight etc ? lol
 
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bill smith said:
Just think too AL...the FD could have impounded every fire extinguisher within a square mile. Say tens of thousands of extinguishers in all. They could have easily put out those little itty-bitty initial fires that you can show us ? Because that is absolutely all ou can show us. (Readers note that the debunkers may now attempt to show later and slightly larger fires. The readers and I arre looking for the initial pictures of fires that could easily be put out with the use of thousands of fire extinguishers if they had been needed)

Or perhaps there was a lot of chaos and shock and people not thinking straight etc ? lol
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Again with this assinine BS about taking all the city fire extinguishers.

What would have happened if someone needed it, and there wasn't an extinguisher to be found? Yeah, that is why we didn't take them. Plus, we knew that the fire was much too big for that, and we were busy trying to find our fallen brothers and other survivors.

Yes, we can show you much bigger fires. Yes, we sure can. But, you see, that much bigger fire staarted from a smaller fire, and grew. When there is no water, we can't fight fire very well.

There were lots of shock, and lots of chaos. But, for you to assume that we did something wrong is just ******* stupid. I think that under the circumstances, we did a pretty damn good job.

We don't just go into panic mode when a disaster happens. We use our LOGIC, and CRITICAL THINKING SKILLS, and use our best judgement. That is why we are firefighters, and not Twoofies.

PS, don't bring that much stupid in one statement, it makes you look like a fool.
 
bill smith said:
Just think too AL...the FD could have impounded every fire extinguisher within a square mile. Say tens of thousands of extinguishers in all. They could have easily put out those little itty-bitty initial fires that you can show us ? Because that is absolutely all ou can show us. (Readers note that the debunkers may now attempt to show later and slightly larger fires. The readers and I are looking for the initial pictures of fires in WTC7 that could easily be put out with the use of thousands of fire extinguishers (if they had been needed)

Or perhaps there was a lot of chaos and shock and people not thinking straight etc ? lol
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Factually wrong and stupid.
 
triforcharity said:
It has been explained Bill. Try looking for it.
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I have read and dismissed all your explanations. Readers are welcome to sample your most recent offerings.

I have just given you two different foolproof ways to have relatively easily defeated the fires in WTC7. Anybody who read those recent posts of mine cannot fail to see the simple logic of them. But do please carry on proving me wrong. It is immensely helpful.
 
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Just after the east penthouse collapses, sunlight can be seen through the top windows suggesting the collapse of the interior is underway.



In this video firefighters, including chief Nigro, discuss the state of WTC 7 and richard gage's pathetic story about WTC 7s "negative pressure".





Proof of heat expansion in WTC5.

 
And I have explianed to you WHY we didn't do that. I explained to you WHY it wasn't possible. However, you have specualted. And that speculation has come straight out of your ass.

On what basis did you dismiss logical thinking??
 
bill smith said:
Why didn't they just pump the water from the river a few hundred feet way to fight the fires in WTC7 ? They could have pumped truck-to-truck right up to the fire or placed staging pumps in with choppers. There is no doubt that this could have been done in no time, yet they had almost eight hours in which they made no attempt to do so.

Was it chaos-shock-nobody thinking straight-etc ?
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Asked and answered.
 
I would more call that ****, and you're the culprit. You are slinging it all over the place, and trying to see what you can get to stick.

Its bull**** and you know it Billy.
 
bill smith said:
I love these types of answers. Concerned Citizens reading along can just feel and see the guilt running down the walls and dripping off the jref ceiling. lol.
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Dude. It's almost as if we don't know the clever truther tactic of every time a claim is made you simply say, "well, show me then". After you are shown, the next time it is brought up say, "well, show me then". After you are shown, then next time it is brought up say, "well, show me then".

Rinse, lather, repeat. That way you don't ever have to comment on any evidence that may contradict you. You simply claim you've never seen it no matter how many times it is shown to you. A war of attrition that usually ends with the rational people exasperated and telling you to eff off, and a truther claiming "VICTORY".

Diabolically clever.
 
triforcharity said:
I would more call that ****, and you're the culprit. You are slinging it all over the place, and trying to see what you can get to stick.

Its bull**** and you know it Billy.
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That's narcissism for you... and why I put him on ignore long ago. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone who posts claptrap theories just for the sake of posting them. His indifference to everything really makes you question whether or not he actually believes his own posts.

TS, Red,.... er bardamu, and others make some crazy claims, but at least they post because they actually believe in the evidence they claim to have. That's what makes any conversation about opposing arguments possible with him or for that matter anybody else.

I can't stand talking to people who don't even believe their own arguments :\
 
Grizzly Bear said:
That's narcissism for you... and why I put him on ignore long ago. I'm not going to have a conversation with someone who posts claptrap theories just for the sake of posting them. His indifference to everything really makes you question whether or not he actually believes his own posts.

TS, Red,.... er bardamu, and others make some crazy claims, but at least they post because they actually believe in the evidence they claim to have. That's what makes any conversation about opposing arguments possible with him or for that matter anybody else.

I can't stand talking to people who don't even believe their own arguments :\
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That's a shame Grizzly. I used to quite enjoy demolishing your posts until you raised your shields with the ignore button. Never mind. We can resume when you feel up to it.
 
bill smith said:
Just think too AL...the FD could have impounded every fire extinguisher within a square mile. Say tens of thousands of extinguishers in all. They could have easily put out those little itty-bitty initial fires that you can show us ? Because that is absolutely all ou can show us. (Readers note that the debunkers may now attempt to show later and slightly larger fires. The readers and I are looking for the initial pictures of fires in WTC7 that could easily be put out with the use of thousands of fire extinguishers (if they had been needed)

Or perhaps there was a lot of chaos and shock and people not thinking straight etc ? lol
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Just out of curiosity, how long do you calculate it would take, say, 200 people to collect ten thousand fire extinguishers? Don't forget the time to organize and brief them.
 
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