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Why Not Palin for President?

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I'm trying to understand why people either like or dislike Palin. If Palin was quietly religious, was for stem cell research and pro choice - would this make her a better candidate for those who lean more to the left? Does she not have some redeeming qualities? What about the work she has done in Alaska? What do you think would happen if she was elected president of the US?
 
Well, yes. If she was a different person with different views, we'd like her better than the person she is now.
 
What about the work she has done in Alaska? What do you think would happen if she was elected president of the US?

If that happened, let's just say that her work in Alaska would become more immediately relevant to a greater number of people.
 
Because leaving her wacky views on science aside, she is totally unqualfied to be President?
 
The problem is that her whacky views on science aren't the cause of her problems, they are the result of them.
 
I'm trying to understand why people either like or dislike Palin.

i dislike Palin cause she is a ****ing moron. she has very unsophisticated views of world history and affairs, and really does not belong in the White House. Let her serve in the House or even the Senate for a few terms.

then....maybe...just maybe..she will qualify for VP.

but now? absolutely not. she is not ready for the big leagues.
 
i dislike Palin cause she is a ****ing moron. she has very unsophisticated views of world history and affairs, and really does not belong in the White House. Let her serve in the House or even the Senate for a few terms.

then....maybe...just maybe..she will qualify for VP.

but now? absolutely not. she is not ready for the big leagues.

Thanks for that Parky. I was reading comments on a right-wing blog where a self-confessed Republican held the same views in that Palin was not "yet" ready for the position on President. It was interesting to read - as the other conservatives piled on this guy for what I thought was a well thought out argument. He also said that Obama was not ready for President either and that their resumes (Obama and Palin) were similar in their inexperience.
 
Well, there's resumes, and then there is knowledge, and then there is understanding. And that's about the order I would give them in terms of least to most importance. You can serve for several terms (giving you the resume), yet still know little about government, how to get things done, and the background behind current situations. Then, you can have knowledge, but not really have the intelligence to apply that knowledge, or to analyze it, in order to set new policies. For example, you might be able to recount the history of Afganistan in great detail, but if you don't have insight into the motivations of the people, and why they chose to do what they did, and what is driving them now, then there is no hope in choosing an appropriate course for the future.

Palin showed she had very little knowledge about world affairs. What's worse, and this is admittedly harder to gauge, she showed little understanding. So, in this next election cycle I expect her to show up with a lot more knowledge, having been subjected to numerous jam sessions, but I question how much more understanding there will be. And, of course, the resume will be the same.

To put this in context, I am Democrat, and greatly disliked the policies of Bush Sr. However, it is clear to me that he had the resume. It is clear he had the knowledge. And it is clear that he had the understanding. I just disagreed with his values - X is more important than Y, Z is the best way to get Q done, etc.

Palin exhibits none of those 3 qualities to me.
 
Thanks for that Parky. I was reading comments on a right-wing blog where a self-confessed Republican held the same views in that Palin was not "yet" ready for the position on President. It was interesting to read - as the other conservatives piled on this guy for what I thought was a well thought out argument. He also said that Obama was not ready for President either and that their resumes (Obama and Palin) were similar in their inexperience.

Obama got his Bachelor's from Columbia and his law degree from Harvard.

His intellectual caliber is light years ahead of Palin's, as is his understanding of complex international and scientific issues.
 
I'm trying to understand why people either like or dislike Palin. If Palin was quietly religious, was for stem cell research and pro choice - would this make her a better candidate for those who lean more to the left? Does she not have some redeeming qualities? What about the work she has done in Alaska? What do you think would happen if she was elected president of the US?

Here is why I do not like her.

(A) I do not think she is very smart. I mean intellectually. She is cunning.
(B) She is cunning.
(C) She is a far right conservative
(D) She, IMO, is not qualified, IN ANY WAY, to be leader of the free world.
(E) She lacks any form of world or international curiosity.

Redeeming qualities.

(A) She is a parent, and seemingly a decent one
(B) She worked hard enough to obtain a US State Governor title.

TAM:)
 
Obama got his Bachelor's from Columbia and his law degree from Harvard.

His intellectual caliber is light years ahead of Palin's, as is his understanding of complex international and scientific issues.

Bingo. Call me insane, but as your next door neighbor, I want your leader, the leader of the free world, to be one of the smartest guys in the room...not the guy I wanna have a beer with.

TAM:)
 
She quit her job, instead of fulfilling her obligation.
 
Thanks for that Parky. I was reading comments on a right-wing blog where a self-confessed Republican held the same views in that Palin was not "yet" ready for the position on President. It was interesting to read - as the other conservatives piled on this guy for what I thought was a well thought out argument. He also said that Obama was not ready for President either and that their resumes (Obama and Palin) were similar in their inexperience.

Well, certainly Obama is not the most experienced guy in the room; he's got no substantial executive experience and his national-level experience is limited to one (partial) term in the Senate. Turning that around, Palin has no national-level experience and her executive experience is limited to one partial term in as Governor of Alaska.

On the other hand, Sarah's education is woefully limited (BA in communications from Hawai'i Pacific University, vs. Columbia and Harvard), and so his her work experience (part-time mayor and commercial fisherwoman vs. con law professor) in a way that Obama's is not.

So, yeah, the "inexperienced" card got played against Obama, but given that his most noted primary opponent was also a freshman Senator, that didn't matter much.

But beyond that, she comes across as stupid in a way that Obama does not.

So even if she held any positions whatsoever with which I agreed, she'd still (in my opinion) be a poorer candidate than Obama.
 
As the responses so far indicate, her positions on issues aren't so much the problems as our estimate of her capacity to form opinions on her own. Anyone can have a position.
 
She quit her job, instead of fulfilling her obligation.

Yeah that one seems to be a fuzzy point. She says she quit because the frivolous suits were bankrupting her (and the state of Alaska). I understand that she would be responsible for paying for any lawsuits - not sure how much the State would be responsible for.

Seems she was in a damned if she did, damned if she didn't spot. Not an enviable spot to be in - especially as a politic figure.
 
Bingo. Call me insane, but as your next door neighbor, I want your leader, the leader of the free world, to be one of the smartest guys in the room...not the guy I wanna have a beer with.

TAM:)

Exactly! We've suffered (and are STILL suffering, thanks to his policies) through 8 years of a President who was sold as a folksy, "common-sense" man who people "wanted to have a beer with."

Sorry, but the best and the brightest should be the people making the big decisions. I'd rather have the "elitist intellectuals" running things than the collection of knuckle-dragging clods that are currently in charge.

Hell, if I could amend the U.S. Constitution, I would require a politician have a PhD from an accredited university before being allowed to run for federal office. Several if you want to be president.

If you want to vote... Bachelors degree at least!
 
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