Moderated Bigfoot- Anybody Seen one?

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kitakaze said:
So again, John, instead of just trying to wave it away, which of these things did not happen?

- Felt a sensation like an electric shock and couldn't move.

- Had spasms, went to the floor in a fetal position.

- Felt then really groggy.

- Soon after heard footsteps unassociated to what you after saw.

- Had a weird smell in your nose for days that nobody else could smell.
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Kit,

OK, you lost me, but going to comment on what you have listed here in the order it occured:


- Had a weird smell in your nose for days that nobody else could smell.

The odor happened first. It made me have dry heaves. Yes it stayed in my nose for a day or two even after attempting to wash it out.


- Felt a sensation like an electric shock and couldn't move.

It felt like a strong STATIC electrical shock. It made my body hair tingle, My ears were ringing. It felt like my internal organs were getting trauma. It was difficult to breath. There was pain and dizzyness involved. I was totally aware of what was happening to me, I was NOT unconscious.


- Had spasms, went to the floor in a fetal position.

correct

- Felt then really groggy.

After a undetermined amount of time (best guess 5 mins, but I really have no idea how long), I felt well enough to sit up and shake off the effects of the other symptoms.


- Soon after heard footsteps unassociated to what you after saw.

After sitting there for a few mins. I heard the noises of something moving through the woods. Not only footsteps. I also heard twigs and branches snapping, bushes and trees rattling, leaves crunching. After hearing that for a few mins, the animal stepped out and I saw it.


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WGBH said:
Kit,

OK, you lost me, but going to comment on what you have listed here in the order it occured:


- Had a weird smell in your nose for days that nobody else could smell.

The odor happened first. It made me have dry heaves. Yes it stayed in my nose for a day or two even after attempting to wash it out.


- Felt a sensation like an electric shock and couldn't move.

It felt like a strong STATIC electrical shock. It made my body hair tingle, My ears were ringing. It felt like my internal organs were getting trauma. It was difficult to breath. There was pain and dizzyness involved. I was totally aware of what was happening to me, I was NOT unconscious.


- Had spasms, went to the floor in a fetal position.

correct

- Felt then really groggy.

After a undetermined amount of time (best guess 5 mins, but I really have no idea how long), I felt well enough to sit up and shake off the effects of the other symptoms.


- Soon after heard footsteps unassociated to what you after saw.

After sitting there for a few mins. I heard the noises of something moving through the woods. Not only footsteps. I also heard twigs and branches snapping, bushes and trees rattling, leaves crunching. After hearing that for a few mins, the animal stepped out and I saw it.


There you go...
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John, are you suggesting that bigfoot "stink" caused all those physical responses? A chemical agent?
 
What do you think tho? Why else would you react that way after detecting an odour that made you dry heave and lasted for days? Sounds like some heavy-duty chemical knocked you on your arse.

ETA in other words the stinky sweat from a bigfoot caused you to hallucinate your sighting. ;)
 
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sugarb said:
...it was running with a kind of forward slant... It had arms longer than a human that swung down at its sides as it ran, not bent at the elbow like a person would run.
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footies on BFF said:
You know how people run with their arms up, bent at the elbow? This creature didn't do that. It's arms were at it's sides. They appeared to only sway--and although it was running upright, it appeared to lean more forward than a person would.
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Running with a more forward lean than a person. Arms longer than a person and hanging to the side - not bent or swinging.

Sorry for the crude drawings. Were the arms hanging more like A or B?


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Óðinn said:
What do you think tho? Why else would you react that way after detecting an odour that made you dry heave and lasted for days? Sounds like some heavy-duty chemical knocked you on your arse.

ETA in other words the stinky sweat from a bigfoot caused you to hallucinate your sighting. ;)
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That is one theory (pheromones), but who knows? There is also the infra sound theory, but I am sick of theories. I am not a expert on either, so it would be brash for me to make that leap.
 
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I think pheromones are a sexual attractant. A bigfoot's stink would be defensive, like a skunk's.
 
unsubstantiated claims from bfro researchers

Hi, in the bfro forum there is people claiming they see bigfoots regularly. I was following a thread of someone asking how many bigfoots are around in total. One 'field researcher' claimed he identified around 9 specific individuals in Texas, and a few more somewhere else (don't remember the details). His claim was that he visited the same areas for years, thus he saw the same bigfoots more then once. I opened a new thread to ask the obvious question: if you see bigfoot more or less regularly, where are the pictures and the footages? I got an avalanche of angry responses telling how difficult it was to take pictures during the night, if you are scared, in the wild, etc, etc, etc. Finally the field researcher answered. He was friendly and basically told he indeed had good pictures, but the places where the pictures taken are private and he had legal obligations not to release the pictures to the public. Very convenient. He ended inviting me to experience bigfoot myself in one of their expeditions, so I think, based on the null evidence of his claims and the obvious monetary interest, as healthy sketicism, I would disregard his claims.
 
Cimerian said:
Hi, in the bfro forum there is people claiming they see bigfoots regularly. I was following a thread of someone asking how many bigfoots are around in total. One 'field researcher' claimed he identified around 9 specific individuals in Texas, and a few more somewhere else (don't remember the details). His claim was that he visited the same areas for years, thus he saw the same bigfoots more then once. I opened a new thread to ask the obvious question: if you see bigfoot more or less regularly, where are the pictures and the footages? I got an avalanche of angry responses telling how difficult it was to take pictures during the night, if you are scared, in the wild, etc, etc, etc. Finally the field researcher answered. He was friendly and basically told he indeed had good pictures, but the places where the pictures taken are private and he had legal obligations not to release the pictures to the public. Very convenient. He ended inviting me to experience bigfoot myself in one of their expeditions, so I think, based on the null evidence of his claims and the obvious monetary interest, as healthy sketicism, I would disregard his claims.
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It's all a load of Bull. What you just stated is the typical response from ALL people claiming habituation and/or multiple sightings. The only thing missing was " I have proof but I am not sharing to protect the animals." Oy! :rolleyes:
 
Óðinn said:
That would be the preferred scenario, as opposed to a sleep hallucination, no?
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There is no preferred scenario. I was wide awake during my encounter.There is definitely more of a chance of mis-identification, then hallucination of any type.
A small chance.
 
Cimerian said:
Hi, in the bfro forum there is people claiming they see bigfoots regularly. I was following a thread of someone asking how many bigfoots are around in total. One 'field researcher' claimed he identified around 9 specific individuals in Texas, and a few more somewhere else (don't remember the details). His claim was that he visited the same areas for years, thus he saw the same bigfoots more then once. I opened a new thread to ask the obvious question: if you see bigfoot more or less regularly, where are the pictures and the footages? I got an avalanche of angry responses telling how difficult it was to take pictures during the night, if you are scared, in the wild, etc, etc, etc. Finally the field researcher answered. He was friendly and basically told he indeed had good pictures, but the places where the pictures taken are private and he had legal obligations not to release the pictures to the public. Very convenient. He ended inviting me to experience bigfoot myself in one of their expeditions, so I think, based on the null evidence of his claims and the obvious monetary interest, as healthy sketicism, I would disregard his claims.
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Hi, Cimerian, and welcome to the JREF.

Yeah, that's about the way it goes, isn't it. Wild claim, requisite request for evidence, rain of excuses, oh, I have the pictures but there are legal obligations, you see. It's really quite fascinating and I never tire of seei*snore*

Really, footer people, let's try harder shall we? Put some swagger on it. Try something new. At least people like Bull$#!% Maker had the beans to do crazy things like make a Bigfoot hat and take pictures of that...

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The whole copyright dreck is so tired. Gimme some plush toys and a polaroid and I'll do better than those clowns.

BTW, if you are not banned at the BFRO board now, you should be about sometime tomorrow. Kim Jong Moneymaker or somebody will take care of that.
 
WGBH said:
It's all a load of Bull. What you just stated is the typical response from ALL people claiming habituation and/or multiple sightings. The only thing missing was " I have proof but I am not sharing to protect the animals." Oy! :rolleyes:
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That's another good one. But hey, wait a second. While the always inevitable lack of proof is indicative of the nature of the claims, once you've claimed Bigfoot is real, what is so out there about claiming habituation? This is something we should absolutely expect with Bigfoot. Bigfoot should be habituated all over the place if they are real. Everything can be habituated from orangutans, chimps, gorillas, etc to humans. Oh, humans are a cinch. Give me some empty cans and half cigarette butts and I will catch you the Wild Woman of the Hood or the elusive West Coast Spotted Hobo.

If you are a big ape with ape eyes, nose, hands etc and you have a choice between pinecones and sticks for lunch or dumpster dining in the park, I think I know how that's going to turn out. If Bigfoot existed, food baiting would have gotten it long ago. If there are no Bigfoots and it's all just a social construct, you'd get decade after decade of nothing, which is exactly what we have.
 
Thanks Kitakaze. At the bfro they haven't banned me, but sometimes they have the bad habit of not posting me. They got specially aroused when with the purest innocence i asked about ufos and bigfoots. When i proposed that, in the light of the complete absence of fossils and other material evidence, they should support the paranormal-ufo-psychic-invisible bigfoot hypothesis instead, the simple didn't posted it.
 
WGBH said:
There is no preferred scenario. I was wide awake during my encounter.There is definitely more of a chance of mis-identification, then hallucination of any type.
A small chance.
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My son was also wide awake during his encounter with the Lucky Charms Leprechaun during US Army Ranger Training under the conditions of sleep deprivation, stress, dehydration and caloric intake deprivation all while performing in rigorous mountain training on the move in high heat/humidity.

He is not afraid to tell his story as it happened and he is not the only Soldier to deal with this type of neurological affect under these conditions.

He knew he was hallucinating, but it didn't make the Lucky Charms Leprechaun go away. He hadn't eaten that cereal in years and has no clue why that specific character became his hallucination under stress.

Don't disregard that wide awake necessarily means coherent and that the mind doesn't play tricks while the body continues to move and believe it is fully awake.

My son doesn't feel a stigma has been attached to him because he had an interaction with a cereal character because he was well aware of his situation and the cause. He uses it to teach others.
 
LuvGodzilla said:
My son was also wide awake during his encounter with the Lucky Charms Leprechaun during US Army Ranger Training under the conditions of sleep deprivation, stress, dehydration and caloric intake deprivation all while performing in rigorous mountain training on the move in high heat/humidity.
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By any chance did the aforementioned leprechaun resemble this drawing:

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If so, he may have also been sighted in Alabama.
 
WGBH said:
In regards to LT are you possitive that you have the right person? I contacted this person VIA the face book account and e-mail given by Parcher's link and he responded " I am not the person you are looking for". Also, the e-mail address does not match the e-mail address given by LT at the forum I admin.
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Grrrrr. Breaking my own rule here.

The claims given by the LT at this site and the LT at other sites are remarkably similar. Between the handle and the pervasive use of US Army SFG insignia in avatars, etc., I find it unlikely that we're dealing with separate people.

I'd invite him to come clear up any confusion, but he hasn't even logged on to this site since he was put up in lights on the POWNETWORK.

If I'm wrong about him, I await evidence of it.

However, much like BigFoot, evidence of his military career appears to exist only in the minds of people who really want to believe in it.
 
kitakaze said:
That's another good one. But hey, wait a second. While the always inevitable lack of proof is indicative of the nature of the claims, once you've claimed Bigfoot is real, what is so out there about claiming habituation?
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It's not the claim, it's the people who make the claims and the same excuses they use for not getting proof of the claims.
 
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