Hitting A Woman?

Remember Kathy Bates in 'Misery'? I'm all for the heavy typewriter defense ;)

As for hitting a female because she cheated (and wishing you'd actually punched her?!) ... Wow. That's one of the weakest justifications for domestic violence I've heard in a while. The way to deal with that problem is to turn your heels and stomp away ... or if you must, go pound on a wall or crush some beer cans. A woman's (or man's) body is not your own personal canvass for emotional graffiti sir.
 
Eyeron said:
Is there any circumstances in which hitting a woman would be considered acceptable? And by hitting I don't mean just a slap, I mean with a fist.
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I assume you mean any circumstances in which a man hitting a woman would be considered acceptable?

Generally I'm not for hitting anyone, but if a woman is physically assaulting a man and (a) is bigger or stronger than him, (b) armed, or (c) is not acting alone, then I'd say all bets are off. Self-defense is justified.

My husband hit a Gypsy woman in Milan once. She had an iron grip on his arm, trying to immobilize him so her cohort could take his wallet. He backhanded her--to say she and her colleagues were shocked would be an understatement--and got away. I thought he was justified. She actually left a bruise on his arm. She probably put a curse on him, but he's still here.
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What are you, people from the dawn of time? Who leads the kind of life where people smack each other around? I've been hit exactly once since childhood, and it was by a crazy person who couldn't be blamed for her actions.

The civilized response to provocation is hissed anathemas, sneering remarks, vile invective, and puncturing of their self-esteem with your needlesharp tongue and its venomous eloquence. Sticks and stones, after all, leave wounds that heal eventually, but a properly turned nasty remark can fester in the mind and blight the very soul of the fool who dared arouse your malice.
 
I think that women hitting anyone, regardless of the size of the person being attacked, should be looked down on just as much as the 'big guy' who cold cocks a little guy.

The results do matter, and I'm not saying it's ok to kick the ass of someone smaller than you. I am saying that if you attack someone stronger, regardless of genders involved, you're bad.
 
About 13 years ago, I was bouncing in a bar and we had to remove a HIGHLY intoxicated female customer. We were almost to the door when she spun around and came at me with claws out and up. I didn't even think about it, I just gave her my best punch in the face.

I don't think that I have ever felt bad about that. Still don't.

Most girls were easy to get to leave. Pay for the taxi and get a little help from their friends. This gal was one for the books though.
 
Does slapping my GF's butt count? Cuz...I do that all the time (she likes it, thus my dilemma).

For the record, I've never been in a fist fight (female nor male). I have never felt any disagreement was ever so serious that it needed to come to violence.

I have stopped girls from hitting me by holding their wrists, but never struck back.
 
Rairun said:
I think the "she cheated on me" excuse is ********. It may be what caused you to be violent, but it doesn't justify it.

But if a person attacks you first, sure, I don't see a problem in retaliating as long as your reaction isn't disproportionate. This goes for both men and women. Also, it bothers me when people attack others in dangerous ways (hitting the back of the neck, etc.) because they know the other person isn't as reckless as they are. They know they can get away with it.
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Gonna put this carefully and politely: if a person you do not know attacks you or a person you know attacks you without reason no response is disproportionate until they have ceased all aggressive behavior. Anything less has a good chance of getting you badly hurt or killed. If someone hits me in the throat, solar plexus or back of neck and it is not a killing or disabling blow, they will die if I can get to them or to a weapon because they have attempted to kill me (in order, inability to breathe(crushed windpipe), serrated and bleeding liver (xyphoid process cutting across it's top - how you kill people if you mis-perform cpr), broken spine).

Law requires only that you use no more force than necessary to halt the attacker. It can be made to look that way.
 
tyr_13 said:
I think that women hitting anyone, regardless of the size of the person being attacked, should be looked down on just as much as the 'big guy' who cold cocks a little guy.

The results do matter, and I'm not saying it's ok to kick the ass of someone smaller than you. I am saying that if you attack someone stronger, regardless of genders involved, you're bad.
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I prefer the rule that says don't attack other people, leave them alone, expect to be left alone and have a plan if you are being attacked. Applies to big, medium or small people. The only addition I should make is there are certain classes of people, small children are a biggie, where the rule is I take an attack on them as an attack on me.
 
BobTheDonkey said:
Especially if he's not willing to hit back in self-defense (wouldn't want to be a woman-beater...)
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Actually, I meant that there were very few women who can't kick his butt so a policy of not dating any woman who could really limits his chances of . . . dating. :D

I wonder how that would play out on the first meeting.

TCS: Before we go out, let's wrestle!

Woman: I don't know, your pretty delicate looking.

TCS: Well, I have my standards.

Woman: Well, okay but let me help you with your coat.

TCS: But you have to promise to stop if I start to cry.

Woman: On second thought . . . !
 
fuelair said:
Gonna put this carefully and politely: if a person you do not know attacks you or a person you know attacks you without reason no response is disproportionate until they have ceased all aggressive behavior. Anything less has a good chance of getting you badly hurt or killed. If someone hits me in the throat, solar plexus or back of neck and it is not a killing or disabling blow, they will die if I can get to them or to a weapon because they have attempted to kill me (in order, inability to breathe(crushed windpipe), serrated and bleeding liver (xyphoid process cutting across it's top - how you kill people if you mis-perform cpr), broken spine).

Law requires only that you use no more force than necessary to halt the attacker. It can be made to look that way.
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Well, yeah, if the person goes berserk and tries to kill you, I don't disagree with you. But if a friend snapped at me and slapped/punched my neck, I wouldn't try to kill or disable them. I'd probably hit their legs/arms hard enough to bruise them, but not in a dangerous way. In such cases, just showing that you're willing to put up a fight is enough for them to come to their senses and stop.
 
fuelair said:
But, seriously, that is why I get angry every time I hear/read about multiple people being killed/wounded by a nutcase shooting up an area where the people being shot were not legally able to carry weapons.
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Because when they are allowed to carry weapons, they can be expected to react calmly and correctly, calmly drawing their firearm to hit the assailant (and only the assailant) - not to mention that if you hear a gunshot, draw your gun, and turn around, you'd be able to identify the real assailant from the other vigilantes who have also drawn their guns.

Which is why you so often read headlines like "a man pulled out a gun and started shooting, injuring one, and was then killed by seven laser-accurate shots from seven heroic people with concealed weapons", and never headlines such as "a man fired madly on people around him in a mall which must have contained many gun-wielding people. He killed seven and injured twelve before shooting himself".

Oh, wait. You don't:rolleyes:.

ETA: For future reference, reality is not an FPS game.
 
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bookitty said:
It could be some sort of primal mate-testing. Or it could just be that at the beginning of a relationship there is a need for touch. Since people are not always good at expressing this need, they find playful ways to fulfill it. Arm-wrestling, goofy pushing, fake boxing or wrestling are slightly more aggressive but it's more about contact than measuring.
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You're right. That's one perspective I hadn't considered and it actually does make a lot of sense. Thank you for that input.
 
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