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Merged Tea Baggers / Twooferreality

Howie Felterbush said:
In a self-defense situation, I'm more concerned with the damage one round can do, because one might be all you can get. Might as well maximize it.

Someone once asked the old gunslinger why he carried a Colt .45.

His response?

"Because they don't make a Colt .46."
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But they do make a .454 Casuel. This is a silly derail. Please take your 'stopping power' woo to another thread. (If you haven't guessed, .223, 5.7x28, and even .22LR are acceptable self-defense rounds in my book, and a fair number of defense instructors.)
 
leftysergeant said:
People like Kostric are among the reasons I pack. They had best not get froggy.
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Great scott lefty, you really don't get it. If you asked right-wing carriers the same question, they'd give you the exact same answer.

Obey your own principles, for crap's sake.
 
Sporanox said:
Great scott lefty, you really don't get it. If you asked right-wing carriers the same question, they'd give you the exact same answer.
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Why don't you get what the moron meant by "It is time to water the Tree of Liberty?"
 
leftysergeant said:
Why don't you get what the moron meant by "It is time to water the Tree of Liberty?"
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That's one guy. I'm not familiar with the specifics of his case, but in no way does he represent all right-wing carriers. For example, I've met more reasonable ones. Self-defense is the prevailing reason.
 
Sporanox said:
That's one guy. I'm not familiar with the specifics of his case, but in no way does he represent all right-wing carriers.
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No, of course he does not represent most lawful gun owners. The law is meant to keep lunatics from buying them, but there are gaps in the net.

Self-defense is the prevailing reason.
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Which is exactly my point. Creeps like Kostric have weapons for the purpose of armed uprising.

Read the sign the moron was waving.
 
leftysergeant said:
Too bad more trade unionists and Jews did not break some skulls in 1930.
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So your opponents are Nazis, such that violence is completely justified -- even laudable -- against them, and you also announce you carry a firearm around with you to political demonstrations.


Frankly, those facts worry me a lot more than some morons with signs.
 
NoZed Avenger said:
So your opponents are Nazis, such that violence is completely justified -- even laudable -- against them, and you also announce you carry a firearm around with you to political demonstrations.
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Some of therm are, actually. some are useful idiots working in support of Nazis, like Kostric.

If they take up arms and start putting their opponents down, they earned a bullet, just as the SA did. What Kostric fails to grasp is that we have a 2nd Ammendment largely to keep his kind in line.

The outlaw militias are organizing again, and Kostric is on the cutting edge whether he has an official tie with them or not. Useful idiots are best kept out of the chain of command.
 
In Israel, most people serve in the army and therefore have access to weapons and have been in wars.

So the urge to brag about how you are "packing heat", how much you know about small arms and their use (as if that is some sort of esoteric knowledge only a select few have), or how you are "ready for anything" and that the "bad guys better not mess with me" passes around age 18 or so at the latest.

In the USA things are different, but not that different.

Childish bragging, in my opinion, nothing more.
 
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So instead of having one lunatic to keep their eye on at rallies, now the police has two lunatics to worry about?
 
leftysergeant said:
Don't you think you should be more worried about the kind of idiot who wants an armed upprising?
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The only person here who claims he goes around with a gun threatening to shoot political opponents is you.

Why you would need a gun, though, is a mystery to me. As an Israeli, I naturally walked around with a gun in places where you really need that gun for self defense, and political demonstrations from the opposition party is not such a place.
 
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Pardalis said:
So instead of having one lunatic to keep their eye on at rallies, now the police has two lunatics to worry about?
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I don't think we have anything to worry about. Lefty has been "packing heat" for years, and has "threatened" the "fascists" with dire retribution countless times, yet he never actually shoots anybody.

His threats are, as Macbeth said, "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
 
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Pardalis said:
Don't you think it's the police and the FBI's job to worry about those people (if they exist), not you?
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Part of what keeps other countries from invading the USA or the outlaw militias from rising up is that armed citizens will not stand for it.
 
leftysergeant said:
Part of what keeps other countries from invading the USA or the outlaw militias from rising up is that armed citizens will not stand for it.
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Uh? I thought America's geographic isolation made it unlikely to be invaded by foreign nations, unless you think Canada and Mexico are a threat.

And as for outlaw militias, I think the FBI is doing most of the work for you. I didn't see any civilians fight at Waco.
 
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Lefty... do you understand that you are freaking people out who otherwise agree with you on most other issues? Did you not see the post here where you got thrown into the same category as Glenn Beck?

And now you're talking about people who in your mind have earned a bullet?
 
Skeptic said:
I don't think we have anything to worry about. Lefty has been "packing heat" for years, and has "threatened" the "fascists" with dire retribution countless times, yet he never actually shoots anybody.

His threats are, as Macbeth said, "a tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing."
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The Holocaust Museum Killer, James Von Brunn*, spent 20 years on a slow boil before finally snapping and murdering that security guard. All that time between his prison release for his first offense and his violent rampage at the museum, he spent bragging about his arsenal and spewing violent rhetoric to friend and stranger alike.

Now I know 99% of these guys are all hot air trying to sound tough. I used to know several people like this and thus far they haven't gone on any killing sprees... yet. But there is no real way (aside from that 10,000 rounds of ammo) to tell which one out of the hundred will be the one to snap.

I hope that Lefty's prescence on a critical thinkers forum indicates he has the ability to listen to reason and will comply if enough people tell him to leave the bloody gun at home.


*Yes, Lefty. There is enough that you have in common with this guy, that he is a valid subject for comparison to you.
 
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