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Split Thread 'Nose-out' footage

bill smith said:
With the best will in the world and speaking as somebody who is reluctant to believe in no-planes I have a serious problem believing that the above Naudet 2 video of a 150-ton plane flying through 33 x 14'' x 14'' x 3/8'' steel box columns without shedding even a single gram of paper-thin aluminium can be authentic. I am shaking my head here.

http://nomoregames.net/presentations/Madison_No_Planes_Final_August_07.ppt_files/slide0045_image034 Nose Cone

http://nomoregames.net/presentation...al_August_07.ppt_files/slide0049_image039.png Wingtip Snaps


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpYkaoC6LO8 Damage from bird
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What the H are you talking about. I have watched many videos including the one you refer to and I do NOT see an aircraft come through the building. I see an explosion and pieces of building and aircraft come through the building as would be expected.

How does one living on another planet get terrestrial internet access?
 
T.A.M. said:
What I would say is that at that moment he is centered on the towers as a unit. One is on fire, one is not. That is all I see in it. Sorry, but I do not enter into it with the same paranoid mindset. To me, the video is not unusual in terms of how it was filmed, the response after the impacts, or anything for that matter.

TAM:)
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Right sneaky of the Frenchman to not just zoom in on the upper floors of WTC 2 which he apparently knew was about to get hit by a plane he would not have even heard until very close to, or even after, impact. (the speed of sound being what it is).
No, instead he just kind of leaves WTC 1 fully in the picture equidistant from the lateral center of the shot and zooms out to include the entire building. That way we get to say he was filming the burning tower and including the as yet undamaged tower for reference ( lets us know the relative distance from the area). Its, gee,, almost as if the guy went to school for this kind of thing!
 
bill smith said:
With the best will in the world and speaking as somebody who is reluctant to believe in no-planes I have a serious problem believing that the above Naudet 2 video of a 150-ton plane flying through 33 x 14'' x 14'' x 3/8'' steel box columns without shedding even a single gram of paper-thin aluminium can be authentic. I am shaking my head here.

http://nomoregames.net/presentations/Madison_No_Planes_Final_August_07.ppt_files/slide0045_image034 Nose Cone

http://nomoregames.net/presentation...al_August_07.ppt_files/slide0049_image039.png Wingtip Snaps


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kpYkaoC6LO8 Damage from bird
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What makes you think they didn't? You do know it would be inside the building, right?
 
jaydeehess said:
What the H are you talking about. I have watched many videos including the one you refer to and I do NOT see an aircraft come through the building. I see an explosion and pieces of building and aircraft come through the building as would be expected.

How does one living on another planet get terrestrial internet access?
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Really ? Here is a video of the penetration of the building from one angle and the Naudet 2 video (above) shows an even more interesting view as regards not even a gram of paper-thin aluninium being shed on the impact side against all that massive steel. You have to remember that the plane only weighed one-three-hundreth of one percent of the weight of the building.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYnMiN7teho Oh my goodness

PS. And I'm talking about a a really spread-out one three-hundreth of one percent at that.
 
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bill smith said:
Really ? Here is a video of the penetration of the building from one angle and the Naudet 2 video (above) shows an even more interesting view as regards not even a gram of paper-thin aluminum being shed on the impact side against all that massive steel. You have to remember that the plane only weighed one-three-hundreth of one percent of the weight of the building.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PYnMiN7teho Oh my goodness
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Ever hear of inertia? All your "paper thin aluminum" is going 600mph into the building. Do you expect to see it?
 
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DGM said:
Ever hear of inertia? All your "paper thin aluminum" is going 600mph into the building. Do you expect to see it?
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Yeah, well you see the plane is really just a big bag of air. It weighs 150 tons if you nelt it down into a single block but in reality that 150 tons is thinly spread out not unlike an aluminium cobweb by comparison with the massive steel of the building.(See photos above). Otherwise the plane could not fly.

Aluminium does not cut steel. That would simply be tantamount to the bread cutting the knife. Especially paper-thin aluminium.
 
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bill smith said:
Yeah, well you see the plane is really just a big bag of air. It weighs 150 tons if you nelt it down into a single block but in reality that 150 tons is thinly spread out not unlike an aluminium cobweb by comparison with the massive steel of the building.(See photos above). Otherwise the plane could not fly.

Aluminium dos not cut steel. That would simply be tantamount to the bread cutting the knife. Especially paper-thin aluminium.
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Rest a bullet on your chest, no trouble. Now have a friend fire it from a gun. Same result? Stop pretending your actually interested.
 
bill smith said:
Yeah, well you see the plane is really just a big bag of air. It weighs 150 tons if you nelt it down into a single block but in reality that 150 tons is thinly spread out not unlike an aluminium cobweb by comparison with the massive steel of the building.(See photos above). Otherwise the plane could not fly.

Aluminium dos not cut steel. That would simply be tantamount to the bread cutting the knife. Especially paper-thin aluminium.
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High pressurized water can cut just about anything you put underneath it. So Bill, how come water can cut & aluminum traveling at nearly 500 mph can't?
 
9/11 Chewy Defense said:
Well Bill, can you answer the question:

How come high pressurized water can cut & aluminum traveling at nearly 500 mph can't?
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As long as it continually travels a that speed Chewy in a focussed 'beam'. But when it meets an immovable oblect like the massive steel in he Towers as an amorpous incoherent mass it just plain stops. It might bust through the windows (like the engineers anticipated) but not through the steel (as the engineers anticipated it wouldn't).
 
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bill smith said:
As long as it continually travels a that speed Chewy. But when it meets an immovable oblect like the massive steel in he Towers it just plain stops. It might bust through the windows (like the engineers anticipated) but not through the steel (as the engineers anticipated it wouldn't).
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Then how come the steel can't stop the high pressurized water het from cutting it since the steel is an immovable object?

Dammit Bill, now I need spray you with "Hel-Away":

 
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9/11 Chewy Defense said:
Then how come the steel can't stop the high pressurized water het from cutting it since the steel is an immovable object?

Dammit Bill, now I need spray you with "Hel-Away":

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You need to focus he liquid into a thin 'beam' under extremely high presssure but above all you must maintain that pressure to cut.
 
Well I hope you concerned citizens are paying attention. The real skinny on 9/11 is available on the jref if you look for the half-dozen committed patriots who are bringing the fight to this gigantic collection of debunkers.
 
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