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Hardfire: Szamboti / Chandler / Mackey

Justin39640 said:
Mechanic tips from Justin:
I wouldn't jump.
When I have lugs that are too tight I use a breaker bar (get a piece of pipe) stand on it carefully and bounce a lil while supporting yourself on the car. This should work too if you only have the 4 way. Jumping (airborn lol) could be tragic if your wrench slips off the nut. Smaller stubborn nuts and bolts - use the palm of your hand to smack your wrench to get it loose (sharp impacts are better), don't try to turn it forcibly, you'll most likely strip a stubborn fastener.
Remember to use a criss-cross pattern to tighten your lugs. Don't go in a circle.
Also remember if you have aluminum rims they have to be torqued properly. (usually 150 ftlbs or so)
:D

I'll win the 50 by throwing in reverse thread lugs.
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Or drive up in a sixties Chrysler and have him try to get the lugs off on the passenger side.
 
You loosen the lug nuts (or bolts) before jacking up the car. Don't take 'em all the way off, just break them free. Otherwise the wheel will rotate a bit while you're trying to wrench on them. Very basic automotive knowledge.

I carry a 28" fixed wrench with 3/4" drive, and spare tungsten carbide sockets in my car. I've had auto shops torque my lug bolts to 400 foot pounds before (spec is 75).

What this has to do with the topic, gentlemen, I have no idea.
 
R.Mackey said:
You loosen the lug nuts (or bolts) before jacking up the car. Don't take 'em all the way off, just break them free. Otherwise the wheel will rotate a bit while you're trying to wrench on them. Very basic automotive knowledge.

I carry a 28" fixed wrench with 3/4" drive, and spare tungsten carbide sockets in my car. I've had auto shops torque my lug bolts to 400 foot pounds before (spec is 75).

What this has to do with the topic, gentlemen, I have no idea.
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Other than to prove there's a lot of detail oriented people here. Who really know the details.
 
R.Mackey said:
You loosen the lug nuts (or bolts) before jacking up the car. Don't take 'em all the way off, just break them free. Otherwise the wheel will rotate a bit while you're trying to wrench on them. Very basic automotive knowledge.

I carry a 28" fixed wrench with 3/4" drive, and spare tungsten carbide sockets in my car. I've had auto shops torque my lug bolts to 400 foot pounds before (spec is 75).

What this has to do with the topic, gentlemen, I have no idea.
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I carry a Dewalt 18v 1/2" drive cordless impact wrench. (inset Tim Allen Home Improvement chuckle here)
Other than that, sorry about the OT
I think we're just killin time till part 3 comes out. :D
(did it? there's so much OT I might have missed it lol)
 
R.Mackey said:
You loosen the lug nuts (or bolts) before jacking up the car. Don't take 'em all the way off, just break them free. Otherwise the wheel will rotate a bit while you're trying to wrench on them. Very basic automotive knowledge.

I carry a 28" fixed wrench with 3/4" drive, and spare tungsten carbide sockets in my car. I've had auto shops torque my lug bolts to 400 foot pounds before (spec is 75).

What this has to do with the topic, gentlemen, I have no idea.
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400 foot pounds?!

Sheesh...no wonder they are such a pain to loosen after being done at the shop....

I just have a T-bar and a crowbar...that and a hydraulic jack...I love those jacks....good purchase.

It has nothing to do with the topic really...but the 9/11 debate has been over for a long time now....the truthers lost and lost bad.

I have a feeling that with this new debate you finished that there are more than enough debates in audio, video, and print to seal the deal for the truthers.

At this point they just rehash old disproven arguments like a broken record....they are rather boring....
 
R.Mackey said:
You loosen the lug nuts (or bolts) before jacking up the car. Don't take 'em all the way off, just break them free. Otherwise the wheel will rotate a bit while you're trying to wrench on them. Very basic automotive knowledge.

I carry a 28" fixed wrench with 3/4" drive, and spare tungsten carbide sockets in my car. I've had auto shops torque my lug bolts to 400 foot pounds before (spec is 75).

What this has to do with the topic, gentlemen, I have no idea.
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I doubt the 400lbs. maybe 200. I have a 1/2" drive Snap-on impact gun running 175lbs input air and it's lucky to get 275 lbs torque. Now if you want to talk about how much torque it takes to break fastener loose............Woow now I'm way off topic...:p
 
Doubt all you like... 400 foot pounds. Understand that I'm running Y-rated low-profile rubber on forged aluminum wheels. They got a little excited.

I discovered this when I got a nail in a tire on a road trip, and I couldn't remove it to fit my spare. Neither could the tow truck, or the first tire shop I went to. The second got it off with a heavy-duty air hammer after about fifteen minutes of work. Davis, California, 2001. Now I carry much, much heavier tools. :D
 
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R.Mackey said:
Doubt all you like... 400 foot pounds. Understand that I'm running Y-rated low-profile rubber on forged aluminum wheels. They got a little excited.

I discovered this when I got a nail in a tire on a road trip, and I couldn't remove it to fit my spare. Neither could the tow truck, or the first tire shop I went to. The second got it off with a heavy-duty air hammer after about fifteen minutes of work. Davis, California, 2001. Now I carry much, much heavier tools. :D
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http://www.directindustry.com/prod/stanley/torque-multiplier-13786-46357.html
 
Will there be a lot of ppt in the last show? I thought a main issue that kept the shows from becoming available was technical stuff with presentations but so far the shows haven't relied on any presentations, mostly just talking points (which isn't bad at all).
 
Third episode posted. But only 7 minutes and 31 seconds? It ends abruptly during Ryan's presentation. Neophyte status prevents me from posting link.
 
You guys really need to get new hobbies. Gary has been trying for three days to upload the whole file, and no idea why it isn't working. That was a trial run.
 
Part 3 Is Up!



Ha! Beat you this time!

I'm having extreme trouble accessing the JREF Forums right now -- probably the only reason I beat you to it for once -- so I'll put together an anthology post later.
 
Hey man, these things are few and far between. I got interested in this stuff wayyyyy too late so when a debate on 911 that isn't from pre-historic 2006 comes around its good times.

Plus everything is so up to date! No longer are we hearing thermite or thermate...ahem, its called nanothermite here in 2010 (I'm over 2009, I'm just gonna start with 2010).
 
Just finished watching it and I think that was the best of the three with both of you getting your points across.I can certainly see where Tony's no tilt point a little better after watching that,being more about the very point of initiation and the method of failure of the side walls.

I'd stilll disagree with his conclusions though since for that degree of bowing to occur there must have been serious force redistribution into the corners of the perimeter either side of the bowed wall.
 
Tony, of course, has picked a video looking almost directly in the plane of the tilt, and on the other side, so naturally it's harder to see in this video. But in others, and in the picture I showed, the tilt is obvious.

This is why, as far as I know, not even anyone else in the Truth Movement cares about this theory. You can see a great deal of skepticism, for instance, at Gregory's forum: http://the911forum.freeforums.org/did-wtc1-hinge-like-wtc2-t139.html

... or here: http://the911forum.freeforums.org/wtc-1-tilt-t235.html
 
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