The VFF Test is On!

JoeTheJuggler said:
Yep. I'd go beyond that and say the fact that she uses the question marks and X system in her notes shows plainly that her claim is false (and that she is fully aware it is false).

Her claim (from her website), "When I look at people, I see images in my mind of the inside of their bodies. I see organs, tissues, cells, and chemicals, and even what I call the vibrational level inside the atoms." Elsewhere she has explicitly claimed that she can see these things immediately and that she has never been wrong (never failed to see). Also from her website, "I've had some very interesting accurate perceptions, and so far I haven't produced a single verified inaccurate perception yet!"

The business of making question marks and using her x-ray vision repeatedly (and sometimes getting different outcomes--like failing to see a kidney 2 times and then seeing it once or whatever) completely contradicts her claim.
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Yes, her question marks put a whole lot more wrong guesses into the mix and open her own interpretation up to the yes/no/I-was-so-close options. It shows that Anita still won't accept her guesses as correct or incorrect. She has to put it all on a sliding scale so she can claim some amount of magical x-ray vision, with disclaimers and excuses, believing that it really really works, even if not fully reliable.
 
Sun Countess said:
For me, the fact that she got "right person/wrong kidney" confirms that she's using cold reading techniques to find the target person, which has nothing to do with whatever body part/ailment the target has. I don't know if she's doing it all subconsciously while she really really atts. to see their kidneys, or if she's doing it consciously and outright being "a liar and a fraud" about her x-ray vision.

If she claims that she just out-and-out guessed on the third trial, I don't know how she could claim it was a hit anyway, if she didn't really really see the kidney.
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I missed this post.
Well spotted, Sun Countess.
 
TheSkepticCanuck said:
For those who are interested, there is an article about Anita in the UNCC student newspaper, The NinerOnline.

http://www.nineronline.com/viewpoint/unc-charlotte-s-student-inner-sight-1.2056167

She will get lots of attention at home now. Just what she wanted. So much for keeping her university out of her paranormal claim.
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Love it, from the link
Anita Ikonen, a 26 year old physics student here at UNC Charlotte has made a handful of paranormal clams throughout her life.
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what are "paranormal clams" and how do I make them ?
:D
 
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Marduk said:
Love it, from the link


what are "paranormal clams" and how do I make them ?
:D
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Paranormal clams are a peculiar type of familiar. They can pass through matter and give information to their master/mistress about the presence or absence of kidneys. Unfortunately, clams (paranormal or otherwise) are stupid and untruthful creatures who can't tell left from right and don't know what kidneys look like.

The recipe for making paranormal clams is a closely guarded secret, but they go great with ectoplasm sauce.
 
I haven't seen the video, but over at stop VFF she claims she got 50% right and 50% wrong? I'm not sure what the basis for that claim is. Anyone know?
 
3bodyproblem said:
I haven't seen the video, but over at stop VFF she claims she got 50% right and 50% wrong? I'm not sure what the basis for that claim is. Anyone know?
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Anita got the first group totally wrong. She got a hit on the second group - correct person, correct side of the body. In the third group she got the correct person but the wrong side of the body. So she is counting that third result as half a hit.

However the test had nothing to do with the people who were were subjects. They were merely kidney carriers. It doesn't matter that she chose the right person because she "saw" no kidney where one did in fact exist. It was a complete miss.

It should also be noted that the subject she choose for the third reading was an older woman, obviously the oldest person in the group by at least 20 years. Even with the faces covered there would have been any number of ways to ascertain this. Pure cold reading alone would have picked that person.

Statistically, more people are missing the left kidney. The fact that Anita picked the left side of the oldest person in the group and got it wrong should in no way be counted as a hit.
 
3bodyproblem said:
I haven't seen the video, but over at stop VFF she claims she got 50% right and 50% wrong? I'm not sure what the basis for that claim is. Anyone know?
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First round of six people, wrong.
Second round of six people, correct person, correct kidney=1.
Third round of six people, correct person, wrong kidney=1/2 in VFF logic.
 
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3bodyproblem said:
I haven't seen the video, but over at stop VFF she claims she got 50% right and 50% wrong? I'm not sure what the basis for that claim is. Anyone know?
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First trial: wrong person
Second trial: right person, right kidney
Third trial: right person, wrong kidney

That becomes 50% right and 50% wrong by the sort of faulty reasoning that VfF has shown herself all too prone to.
 
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I'm no statistician, but for someone with no claim to special powers what percentage range would be expected and how did VFF score in relation to that
thanks
;)
 
Ahh, OK. Thanks.

Let Anita know I did an undergrad in physics as well. I failed statistics the first time I took it too. Well I didn't fail it, I was just several standard deviations below the normal distribution.
 
Marduk said:
I'm no statistician, but for someone with no claim to special powers what percentage range would be expected and how did VFF score in relation to that
thanks
;)
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Well eventually I passed stats. It was a while a ago, but a 1 in 4 performance is about a "B" I think.
 
jhunter1163 said:
The odds of doing what Anita did by chance alone are 19% (just over 1 in 5.)

At least one of the people guessing along in the VFF chat did as well.
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I think VisionFromSwilling needs further investigation. That was hilarious.
 
Marduk said:
I'm no statistician, but for someone with no claim to special powers what percentage range would be expected and how did VFF score in relation to that
thanks
;)
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She played three rounds of a 1 in 12 guessing game. She guessed wrong twice. She guessed correctly once.

Her chances of success according to the protocol were something like mixing up 1700 black marbles in a bag with one white one, then reaching in blindfolded and pulling out the white marble.

Her actual success was about the same as dealing all the spades from a deck of cards face down and guessing where the ace is, and getting it right once after playing that three times.

I recall someone calculated her performance at about a 23% chance, like holding one hand behind your back and asking someone to guess how many fingers you're holding up.
 
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See post 776. McLuvin got the exact same 1.5 right that Anita did (correct person and side in round 2, correct person in round 3) and he's not claiming any special abilities.

ETA: I'm not 100% sure, but I think Agatha may have gotten two out of three correct, both person and side. I'll go to the *cringe* tape.
 
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