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...Richard Gage destroyed by Kim Hill

Originally Posted by CHF
What do you think was Gage's strongest point?
His plugs for his DVD.

That was a historic moment, Algebra finally got something right. Everything else he said was lamer than "get my DVD".

I'm surprised no one else pointed this out yet but at 9:25 into the interview he said "Well, CNN made the same mistake [as the BBC] they announced the collapse of a 50 story building [i.e. 7 WTC] at 10:45 that morning...if it did go down that early it would have been totally obscured by the dust, the incredible dust from the Twin Towers which had just collapsed"

10:45?? WTF? But it's true, when CNN said this (4:45 PM local time) it was 10:45 in the morning in Samoa, Kingman's Reef and a few other sparsly populated atolls.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/utc/utc-1100.html
 
I know she didn't know genius. She doesn't know WTC7 from Rockefeller Center. That is obvious. She is a parrot. But someone knew to have the camera on building 7 when they were going to report it collapsed. They just did it too soon. They blew it. Gotta get that scoop you know. Gotta be first in the news business.

Gage is the parrot!

"They blew it."

Blew it down like the big bad wolf? Blew it down with a hurricane? Blew it down with your bad breath?
 
I know she didn't know genius. She doesn't know WTC7 from Rockefeller Center. That is obvious. She is a parrot. But someone knew to have the camera on building 7 when they were going to report it collapsed. They just did it too soon. They blew it. Gotta get that scoop you know. Gotta be first in the news business.

The camerman may not have been aware of what she was about to read, only to get a shot. Again, she simply could have been making a mistake. Is it ok for people to make mistakes?
 
Yeah they mistakes all the time. The mistakes just usually don't turn out as clairvoyant.

You've been told several times that the FDNY prediction of WTC7's imminent collapse was all over the news that afternoon and they were right.

You don't ask for confirmation. You don't assert our claim is wrong. You don't ask for more evidence to justify our claim. You don't provide information that contradicts it.

You seem to pretend you never heard it.

Such is the way of the Truth Movement.

Troll.
 
That was a historic moment, Algebra finally got something right. Everything else he said was lamer than "get my DVD".

I'm surprised no one else pointed this out yet but at 9:25 into the interview he said "Well, CNN made the same mistake [as the BBC] they announced the collapse of a 50 story building [i.e. 7 WTC] at 10:45 that morning...if it did go down that early it would have been totally obscured by the dust, the incredible dust from the Twin Towers which had just collapsed"

10:45?? WTF? But it's true, when CNN said this (4:45 PM local time) it was 10:45 in the morning in Samoa, Kingman's Reef and a few other sparsly populated atolls.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/utc/utc-1100.html

I think a lot of what Gage said was on target. It just wasn't getting through all the comedy. It reminded me of the old Howard Stern show. All he could do was get his plugs in at that point. Debunkers don't debunk. They just get belligerent about a topic they know nothing about for the most part. It speaks volumes. Might as well plug the appearance and CD as the debunker continues to rant incoherently. It's all good in the end.
 
Yeah they mistakes all the time. The mistakes just usually don't turn out as clairvoyant.

Then why are you sitting there griping about it?

OMG! They told the collapse of WTC 7 20 minutes early! The world's going to end or it proves something else!

BBC job interview mistake:

 
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I know she didn't know genius. She doesn't know WTC7 from Rockefeller Center. That is obvious. She is a parrot. But someone knew to have the camera on building 7 when they were going to report it collapsed. They just did it too soon. They blew it. Gotta get that scoop you know. Gotta be first in the news business.

So what? Everyone in NYC knew that WTC7 was about to collapse.
 
I think a lot of what Gage said was on target. It just wasn't getting through all the comedy. It reminded me of the old Howard Stern show. All he could do was get his plugs in at that point. Debunkers don't debunk. They just get belligerent about a topic they know nothing about for the most part. It speaks volumes. Might as well plug the appearance and CD as the debunker continues to rant incoherently. It's all good in the end.

You were shown one of the many examples of out-and-out lies by Gage and your response is "I think a lot of what Gage said was on target"?

Are you kidding me? Very little if ANY of what Gage said can withstand even the most cursory of examinations by anybody who knows what he is talking about. It was hilarious from "pools of molten steel" all the way to "it's proven that thermite was found".
 
That was a historic moment, Algebra finally got something right. Everything else he said was lamer than "get my DVD".

I'm surprised no one else pointed this out yet but at 9:25 into the interview he said "Well, CNN made the same mistake [as the BBC] they announced the collapse of a 50 story building [i.e. 7 WTC] at 10:45 that morning...if it did go down that early it would have been totally obscured by the dust, the incredible dust from the Twin Towers which had just collapsed"

10:45?? WTF? But it's true, when CNN said this (4:45 PM local time) it was 10:45 in the morning in Samoa, Kingman's Reef and a few other sparsly populated atolls.

http://www.worldtimezone.com/utc/utc-1100.html

Okay. Answer me. NYC Local time. When did CNN report the collapse and when did the BBC? What's your point? Was it independent of each other or connected?
 
You were shown one of the many examples of out-and-out lies by Gage and your response is "I think a lot of what Gage said was on target"?

Are you kidding me? Very little if ANY of what Gage said can withstand even the most cursory of examinations by anybody who knows what he is talking about. It was hilarious from "pools of molten steel" all the way to "it's proven that thermite was found".

Actually Gage was coy enough to refer to them in the interview as "pools of Molten Metal."

TAM:)
 
I think a lot of what Gage said was on target.

Does that include his claim that CNN announced the collapse of 7 at 10:45 AM?

If "a lot", as opposed to "most" or "all", "was on target" then much (or at least some) wasn't, care to elaborate?
 
Raw video from from a local TV station, KTVU, station on 9/11. Anyone care to count the errors in reporting? They were feeding from CNN and Faux btw.

 
Does that include his claim that CNN announced the collapse of 7 at 10:45 AM?

If "a lot", as opposed to "most" or "all", "was on target" then much (or at least some) wasn't, care to elaborate?

Read back. I asked you something.
 
Wow. This Kim Hill person is spot on. All she does is let Gage talk himself into a corner. Just a few simple common sense questions reveal his tortured logic.

Gage: I'm not a conspiracy theorist! I'm an architect! My architectural analysis of media ownership and BBC reporters and construction companies and security company board members and disnfo plants and blah blah blah...inside job! Squibs! nano-thermite! Free-fall! Hijackers alive! Look at the polls! Buy my DVD!

Hill: But you're not a conspiracy theorist?

Gage: I'm an architect!

Holy crap. What a pathetic performance.
 
Okay. Answer me. NYC Local time. When did CNN report the collapse and when did the BBC? What's your point? Was it independent of each other or connected?

1) Gage saying it happened at 6 hours before it did indicates he's an idiot

2) Whether one copied the other or if they independently made the same error is irrelevant. As has been pointed out to you ad infinium its collapse had been expected for hours. IIRC both used couched language like "has collapsed or is collapsing" and "we've been told" etc. What year are we in?
 
Holy crap. What a pathetic performance.

That is a matter of perspective. To you and I, it was (and really is) pathetic. But to someone who watches it, in the same mindset, who says to themselves,

"Yup that is exactly what I would say. He is getting all of our points out there."

His performance was spot on. To a paranoid CTist, Gage was fantastic.

TAM:)
 
Were the individual reports on the early collapse of WTC7 independent of each other or connected? What's the debunker stance?
 

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