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Flight 77 flight path

And its hilarious how they managed to risk flying a plane over the building and have no one notice.

Mud, why do you guys believe these conspiractors to be complete idiots, as lucky as lepricorns and complete genius' all at the same time?

And please tell me, why wouldnt they just crash a real plane into the damn building?

I know you'll never answer, no CITist ever does.

If I remember correctly, according to Craig, the NWO did it like this because they needed the damage to the Pentagon to be very precise and they couldn't achieve this degree of precision with an actual plane. And they needed this precision in order to destroy some evidence or something because apparently nobody at the NWO has heard of paper shredders.
 
Mudlark... When the conspirators were having their meeting about how to hit the Pentagon (knowing that they also want to crash planes in the WTC), why did they decide that the best way to carry out this part of the attack was to put explosives inside the Pentagon (that somehow blew airplane parts all over the place) and fly a plane close to the Pentagon and then make it fly over at the last second (hoping no one would see that)? Why would they think to create a fake flight path by knocking down some light poles and stage Lloyd's taxi and all of that?

Why on earth wouldn't the conspirators just crash the plane into the Pentagon (and spare themselves TONS of risk), like at the WTC?
 
Mudlark... When the conspirators were having their meeting about how to hit the Pentagon (knowing that they also want to crash planes in the WTC), why did they decide that the best way to carry out this part of the attack was to put explosives inside the Pentagon (that somehow blew airplane parts all over the place) and fly a plane close to the Pentagon and then make it fly over at the last second (hoping no one would see that)? Why would they think to create a fake flight path by knocking down some light poles and stage Lloyd's taxi and all of that?

Why on earth wouldn't the conspirators just crash the plane into the Pentagon (and spare themselves TONS of risk), like at the WTC?

Maybe because we would have seen what actually happens when a plane hits a building? Particularly a fortified building that had recent reinforcements?
What I do know is that the plane didn´t cause that damage from NOC.

What airplane parts were blown ´all over the place´? The photographs of lightweight sheets of aluminium on the lawn?
 
Mudlark... Is Petitt a liar?

Apparently the FAA didn´t have a problem with NOC.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjN4sfyqIc

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Maybe because we would have seen what actually happens when a plane hits a building? Particularly a fortified building that had recent reinforcements?
why did the plane hitting the building on 9/11 have to look different from it should look like? why would they take the risk that some plucky internet sleuth would see through the ruse?

i mean honestly, if the story is going to be a plane hit the pentagon, then why not hit the pentagon with a plane, and the resultant damage will be exactly what a plane hitting the pentagon should cause

What I do know is that the plane didn´t cause that damage from NOC.
with that we are in agreement

What airplane parts were blown ´all over the place´? The photographs of lightweight sheets of aluminium on the lawn?
and the engine, and landing gear, and other debris (and yes, the aluminum did also come from the plane)
 
If I remember correctly, according to Craig, the NWO did it like this because they needed the damage to the Pentagon to be very precise and they couldn't achieve this degree of precision with an actual plane. And they needed this precision in order to destroy some evidence or something because apparently nobody at the NWO has heard of paper shredders.

By your reckoning do you believe the plane would have made far less damage at @350-400 mph?
The official story had the plane on a direct hit from SOC at 540mph.
If it was on a turn as many witnesses described it including witnesses who CIT haven´t included on their NOC list. If it was going much slower as testified by the 10-15 seconds to reach the facade. If it hit lightpoles on the way in. Then a generator trailer. Then how much force was left to actually puncture 94 metres in 8/10ths of a second?
Anybody?
 
Apparently the FAA didn´t have a problem with NOC.


www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjN4sfyqIc

[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/FAANoC.jpg[/qimg]

[qimg]http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight%20path/noradnorthpath.jpg[/qimg]

HI! Yeah, hot linking images from banned members is kind of frowned upon around here.

Especially ones that have been systematically debunked.

Say Mud, why do you call Boger a liar?
 
By your reckoning do you believe the plane would have made far less damage at @350-400 mph?
The official story had the plane on a direct hit from SOC at 540mph.
If it was on a turn as many witnesses described it including witnesses who CIT haven´t included on their NOC list. If it was going much slower as testified by the 10-15 seconds to reach the facade. If it hit lightpoles on the way in. Then a generator trailer. Then how much force was left to actually puncture 94 metres in 8/10ths of a second?
Anybody?

irrelevant Domenic, the plane hit at 540 mph, the radar shows it, the FDR shows it. end of story.
 
and the engine, and landing gear, and other debris (and yes, the aluminum did also come from the plane)

I was referring to the plane parts that were ´blown all over the place´ not the unidentified parts that were inside the building.
 
If I remember correctly, according to Craig, the NWO did it like this because they needed the damage to the Pentagon to be very precise and they couldn't achieve this degree of precision with an actual plane. And they needed this precision in order to destroy some evidence or something because apparently nobody at the NWO has heard of paper shredders.

Why did they need it to be precise? Did they answer that one?
 
Apparently the FAA didn´t have a problem with NOC.


"www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjN4sfyqIc"]www.youtube.com/watch?v=dHjN4sfyqIc

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight path/FAANoC.jpg

http://i14.photobucket.com/albums/a327/lytetrip/Pentagon/flight path/noradnorthpath.jpg

I can't quite believe anyone who would still display this demonstration from a software company as being endorsed by the FAA. Where are the radar returns on which to base it, Bozo? Oh, there are none.

This alone vividly illustrates how stupid this NOC nonsense really is along with those who are gullible enough to believe and endorse it.
 
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irrelevant Domenic, the plane hit at 540 mph, the radar shows it, the FDR shows it. end of story.

That´s your opinion.
There were discrepancies in the whole FDR saga from retrieval to translation.
NOBODY witnessed this path. Nor that of the RADES.

At 540mph the plane would have been a blur between the Navy Annex and the facade.
Witnesses from all angles placed the plane at a bank. That it took at least 10-15 seconds from its appearance at the Annex to the fireball.
Penny Elgas said that the plane ´made the slightest turn´ just in front of her on the HOV lanes.
At 540mph? Impossible.
The ANC witnesses and Boger describe a bank the whole way down to route 27.
Even Walter describes a bank.
The plane is said to have ´wobbled´ and the pilot ´struggled with it´ from Route 27 to the facade.
You can choose to ignore the NOC witnesses if you wish but to ignore an even larger number on these testimonies is ridiculous in the extreme.

If the plane was travelling at 540 mph that equals 250 metres a second.
From the plane´s arrival on Route 27 at lightpole 1 to the facade is 300 metres exactly.
So are you telling me that in just over a second the plane reached the facade?

Maybe you can look to FDR/RADES but Math beats that **** hands down.
 
I can't quite believe anyone who would still display this demonstration from a software company as being endorsed by the FAA. Where are the radar returns on which to base it, Bozo? Oh, there are none.

This alone vividly illustrates how stupid this NOC nonsense really is along with those who are gullible enough to believe and endorse it.

I personally don´t give it any sway.
It´s just curious how close it is to the NOC path witnessed.
Who provided the stats to this software company?
In all the posts I´ve seen tonight there was very little counterargument explaining how this testimony could have been totally ****ed up to such proportions that all the witnesses were wrong. All of them.
Oh wait, another gem was to ´ignore them´ and another was that an impact was possible from NOC.
None of this testimony has been debunked or even discussed.
I personally won´t put faith in the word of an agency held up as proof of physical evidence. Or arguments based on incredulity.
Night.
 

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