Flight 77 flight path

[Mr.Herbert]

´garbage´ that noone here has debunked yet.
Insults and no rebuttals.

Hey, no-planer. CAN YOU READ?

EVERY CIT witness that was in a position to do so... SAW THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON!!!!

Why don't you see if Aldo, Craig, and Balsamo need a pivot man for their tree-fort circle jerk.

 

[Baylor]

Again?
Grainy low quality videos are weak.
Any videos released have the same theme. Guess where the plane is from horrible, obscured angles that leave more questions than answers.
Weak.

CIT predicted the footage would show the plane flying over the pentagon. The footage did not show the plane flying over the pentagon. Debunked.

 

[Edx]

Hey, no-planer. CAN YOU READ?

EVERY CIT witness that was in a position to do so... SAW THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON!!!.

And no one saw the plane fly over, why would the conspiractors risk that Mudlark?

Why are they such genius' to be able to pull this all off, yet such morons as to hire someone like Lloyd and Timmerman that are so bad are being shills (according to CIT)?

Yup, you believe they are genius' and morons at the exact same time. How do you do that?

 

[stewieg]

´garbage´ that noone here has debunked yet.
Insults and no rebuttals.

Oh my. CIT provides not a single shread of evidence to prove that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon. Yet you seem to believe the CIT fantasy. Craig and Aldo make threats against not only debunkers but other truthers yet you whine about insults here at JREF. Like I said before, what's more serious, insults or threats?

 

[mudlark]

Yep, seen that as well.




Lies!

You said Timmerman is lying because he couldnt see the plane hit then he was "coaching" Vignola on what to say.

Why was he lying Mudlark?]

When did I say he was lying??
I questioned his testimony based on what he could ACTUALLY see from his window. Was that not a fair comment I made?
Do YOU believe he could make such a detailed account with his POV??

You have not demonstrated he couldnt see nor have you demonstrated that he was coaching anyone.

I believe that I have. YOU tell me how he made out so much with that window view.

The rest is pure bull. And you know it.

 

[mudlark]

Hey, no-planer. CAN YOU READ?

EVERY CIT witness that was in a position to do so... SAW THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON!!!!

Why don't you see if Aldo, Craig, and Balsamo need a pivot man for their tree-fort circle jerk.

Are you blind?
I answered your post or one with the exact same statement.
How is an impact POSSIBLE FROM NOC?

 

[tj15]

Before I forget (kinda bogged down here) nobody knew that Hugh "Tim" Timmerman was really Dawn Vignola's roomate on 9/11 until Dawn Vignola told this to CIT firsthand. You can actually hear Timmerman coaching Vignola what to say during this interview:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jh2iFhTYX5s

Vignola let CIT into her apartment to document their POV. While Timmerman claimed it was AA Vignola claimed the plane was "white". If you don't believe them, call Vignola yourself and prove them wrong.

She's listed.

"Coaching" her? He was simply giving her information about what he saw so that she could relay that information to the media.

To an untrained eye (Vignola), the plane might appear white (reflections ect.). But Timmerman is a pilot. And he was pretty sure it was an AA plane. Do you think Timmerman lied?

 

[Baylor]

Are you blind?
I answered your post or one with the exact same statement.
How is an impact POSSIBLE FROM NOC?

If it flew North or South it still hit the pentagon, as CIT has proved.

 

[dtugg]

Are you blind?
I answered your post or one with the exact same statement.
How is an impact POSSIBLE FROM NOC?

The plane didn't fly NOC, CITiot.

 

[Edx]

I questioned his testimony based on what he could ACTUALLY see from his window. Was that not a fair comment I made?

You say he couldnt see what he said he saw and that he was "coaching" and "feeding information" to someone to make it look like someone else saw something you say neither of them could see, and you think I am making an leap by saying you are clearly calling him a shill? How can you not see that?

Do YOU believe he could make such a detailed account with his POV??

Give me better video, I cant even verify that is his view.

I believe that I have. YOU tell me how he made out so much with that window view.

Yes from the positon far back in the room with a camera whip panning from one direction to the other, it does seem hard to see anything. But we cant tell what he could or could not have seen without better video now can we?

The rest is pure bull. And you know it.

In that clip Stan gets pissed with Cartman because he wrote a book saying Wendy was a slut, but he says he never "directly" called her a slut, he's "just asking questions". That is exactly what you're doing.

 

[Mr.Herbert]

It's not, CITologist. You and your bum chums are obviously too stupid to realize that the witnesses misremembered the exact flight path.

AGAIN.... they SAW THE PLANE HIT THE PENTAGON.

Hey Einstein, if you were there and three-five years later you were asked what happened...what would be more clear to you? The exact location of the plane, or the impact?

Thank you.

 

[stewieg]

"Coaching" her? He was simply giving her information about what he saw so that she could relay that information to the media.

To an untrained eye (Vignola), the plane might appear white (reflections ect.). But Timmerman is a pilot. And he was pretty sure it was an AA plane. Do you think Timmerman lied?

If mudlark takes a page from teh CIT playbook he will pretend Timmerman does not exist or try to smear him.

 

[mudlark]

Oh my. CIT provides not a single shread of evidence to prove that something other than a 757 hit the Pentagon. Yet you seem to believe the CIT fantasy. Craig and Aldo make threats against not only debunkers but other truthers yet you whine about insults here at JREF. Like I said before, what's more serious, insults or threats?

You´re addressing the wrong person.
I´m here to talk about NOC.
This thread has taken a personal turn away from the topic.
I´ll come back when I see discussion of the topic back on track.

 

[Edx]

If mudlark takes a page from teh CIT playbook he will pretend Timmerman does not exist or try to smear him.

If you look at the video someone posted a page or so ago with his interview, one of the comments said Timmerman didnt exist lol.

 

[Baylor]

Are you blind?
I answered your post or one with the exact same statement.
How is an impact POSSIBLE FROM NOC?

You might want to calm down first, then take a look at the glaring contradictions and double standards CIT makes.

 

[Edx]

You´re addressing the wrong person.
I´m here to talk about NOC.
This thread has taken a personal turn away from the topic.
I´ll come back when I see discussion of the topic back on track.

Please explain how the 3 stooges can be super genius' at the same time.

 

[Sam.I.Am]

If you look at the video someone posted a page or so ago with his interview, one of the comments said Timmerman didnt exist lol.

So now they are saying that there are witnessims?

 

[lapman]

Are you blind?
I answered your post or one with the exact same statement.
How is an impact POSSIBLE FROM NOC?

Thank you for debunking yourself. Since you cannot provide even one single piece of evidence that proves that the plane did not crash into the building, you are proving that your precious eyewitnesses are mistaken on the location of the flight path. Since all other evidence supports the SOC flight path, there could be no other. We look at the entire body of evidence. You just cherry pick the few pieces that support your fantasy while completely ignoring everything else.

 

[mudlark]

Before I forget tj15.
You linked me to the ´I-395´ witness?
NEITHER flightpath crosses this motorway.

 

[beachnut]

Given the NOC testimony? ...

So the FDR got in the Pentagon how? How did the DNA get there?

Have you told the families their loved ones were not killed by terrorists, but by some unknown nut case conspiracy theory you can't define?

You never debunked one of the 136 witnesses. Why do all the CIT witnesses agree Flight 77 hit the Pentagon, but you twist their testimony given years after the event into some lame moronic delusion where Flight 77 never hit the Pentagon.

Where is Flight 77? The RADAR track ends at the Pentagon. Oops. Science proves your ideas are delusions shared by a select few paranoid conspiracy theorists armed with 11.2G failed physics and the worse investigators in history, CIT.

So the FAA, NTSB, Navy, USAF, DoD employees, Army, Firemen, police, doctors, DNA specialist, and the FBI all conspired to do 911 and you have the evidence but it was eaten by your dog? Is that about right?

I guess you are not an engineer, or a pilot, or a trained aircraft accident investigator.

The jet fuel fireball was a big clue, guess that not good enough for you false statements, fantasies and hearsay.

Flight path verified by FDR, witnesses, and RADAR. You should go talk the the witnesses yourself, all of the CIT witnesses point to the south flight path on video; must take a great deal of ignorance to not know the direction people are pointing and CIT personify complete ignorance.