Why truthers are dangerouse!

[Justin39640]

Yup, I seriously doubt that the NY Yankees are the best team in baseball.

I'd have to disagree.
With a team average of .636 for the year (no other team broke .600) and winning the World Series, I'd say it's pretty clear they are the best team (for now).

lol

Check out Bill Burr's take on it. lol
NSFW

 

[johnny karate]

A number of those family members ARE ´fellow twoofers´.

Yeah, a small insignificant number. Don't be yet another Truther pretending there's a consensus of family members supporting the Truth Movement, because there's not, and that boring lie is well past its expiration date.

 

[mudlark]

Oh it does? does it? how so? Or are you just a child using that word for shock value because you don't know what it means and have nothing else to attach your feigned outrage to?

Racism
Especially anti-Semitism, which eventually culminated in the Holocaust.

Nazi in the sense of how the Jews were cast through their media and brownshirt meetings.
Dehumanized.
In an earlier post I said clearly that this comparison is no way
on a par with this social evil but it is in the same ballpark on the METHOD used to tar a group of people.
The people posting on the thread felt no qualms at all about wishing this person had died. It´s there in black and white.

´Feigned ourage´?
As a Catholic brought up in 70s Belfast myself and many others had first hand experience of the exact same treatment and unfortunately many people did die because of this hatred.On ´both´ sides. So no,
I would say it´s far from ´feigned´.
By the way, I´m a hairy arsed child.
Son.

 

[A W Smith]

Racism
Especially anti-Semitism, which eventually culminated in the Holocaust.

Nazi in the sense of how the Jews were cast through their media and brownshirt meetings.
Dehumanized.
In an earlier post I said clearly that this comparison is no way
on a par with this social evil but it is in the same ballpark on the METHOD used to tar a group of people.
The people posting on the thread felt no qualms at all about wishing this person had died. It´s there in black and white.

´Feigned ourage´?
As a Catholic brought up in 70s Belfast myself and many others had first hand experience of the exact same treatment and unfortunately many people did die because of this hatred.On ´both´ sides. So no,
I would say it´s far from ´feigned´.
By the way, I´m a hairy arsed child.
Son.

You are equating agenda driven people using deliberate ignorance and stupidity as part of a race now? They aren't a race. they are idiots. Persecution complex much? Get your head out of your "hairy arse" child and grow the eff up.

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

A number of those family members ARE ´fellow twoofers´.?

And that number would be a single digit.

9/11 Families for a Safe and Strong America is an organization that represents the victims familes. I invite you to head over their and share your hate-driven fantasies of what happened that day and see what response you'll get.

Ask the first responders choking up their own lung tissue about ´sensationalist distortions´

And this is what those first responders think of you people. Feel free to log in over there and tell them that you know better what happened that day than the men who lived it first hand and see if they like twoofers any more after you're done.

Everybody is entitled to their own opinion of what happened on 9/11 whether they believe the official story or that they have serious concerns.

No you aren't. No one is. Only one thing happened on 9/11. 19 islamic radicals hijacked four airplanes, and smashed them into three office buildings in New York and Washington and a farmers field in Pennsylvania. All the damage and destruction of that day is solely due to these events.

That is the only thing that is acceptable to believe about what happened on 9/11. It is no more OK to have a differing belief on this than it is to think that 2+2=5.

Having such alternative beliefs on 9/11 will have consequences. These consequences may be as mild as your friends thinking you are mentally retarded and not wanting to talk to you for fear of having you spout idiocy in their faces, or they may be as severe as having your name added to a terrorist watch list for your expressed support for such an extremist ideology.

This is not to be confused or mistaken with having a different opinion on how to address the terrorist threat.

Tell me, do you not have ONE lingering doubt?

Nope. I'm not mentally retarded.

Given that these people have actually been caught lying, say with the example of the first responders and the air being ´safe´. They lied. They got caught.

This is another lie from you. The EPA didn't lie about air quality at ground zero. Brainster posting at Screw Loose Change explains how you people got it wrong:

Key words in there? "Public health". They were not referring to the workers on the pile, they were referring to people elsewhere in New York City. Here's the EPA's release that is cited:

While careful not to impede the search, rescue and cleanup efforts at either the World Trade Center or the Pentagon disaster sites, EPA = s primary concern has been to ensure that rescue workers and the public are not being exposed to elevated levels of potentially hazardous contaminants in the dust and debris, especially where practical solutions are available to reduce exposure. EPA has assisted efforts to provide dust masks to rescue workers to minimize inhalation of dust. EPA also recommends that the blast site debris continue to be kept wet, which helps to significantly reduce the amount of airborne dust which can aggravate respiratory ailments such as asthma. On-site facilities are being made available for rescue workers to clean themselves, change their clothing and to have dust-laden clothes cleaned separately from normal household wash

.

More here:

Do persons outside the WTC restricted area need to wear respirators?
No. EPA has not detected any pollutant levels of concern in Lower Manhattan generally or at the Fresh Kills site on Staten Island, where the debris from the WTC cleanup is being taken for inspection and sorting.

Typical truther tard, his links prove him wrong.

How can you accept ANYTHING these people claim to be true given this fact?

This is actually a valid point. And it's why I never accept anything from 9/11 twoofers. You people have lied so bloody much over the last eight years that no sane or reasonable person can take you seriously.

Unless you people are boasting about how you're going to kill some police officers...

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

Nazi in the sense of how the Jews were cast through their media and brownshirt meetings.
Dehumanized.
In an earlier post I said clearly that this comparison is no way
on a par with this social evil but it is in the same ballpark on the METHOD used to tar a group of people.
The people posting on the thread felt no qualms at all about wishing this person had died. It´s there in black and white.

´Feigned ourage´?
As a Catholic brought up in 70s Belfast myself and many others had first hand experience of the exact same treatment and unfortunately many people did die because of this hatred.On ´both´ sides. So no,
I would say it´s far from ´feigned´.
By the way, I´m a hairy arsed child.
Son.

If your screw up with whatreallyhappened.com is any indication, you wouldn't recognize nazi ideology if you were reading a neo-nazi website.

 

[mudlark]

Trutherslie
I will answer all of your questions but not on this thread.
It deserves full discussion on a seperate thread because of the delicacy of the subject in most part but because it needs detailed debate away from a childish ´twoofers are dangerous´ hatefest gathering.
I will put forward a post solely concentrating on the questions you have posted.
Looking forward to it

Same goes for your reply SOT.

 

[mudlark]

SOT

Again man?
First I was a nazi now I haven´t a clue about it? Make your mind up.

 

[TexasJack]

Promises Promises

Trutherslie
I will answer all of your questions but not on this thread.

Remember what you said a few days ago?

I´m finished with this thread and will take your advice and look for intelligent conversation.

Let's here your legitimate questions on separate thread, you keep coming here and wallowing in the mire.

 

[TruthersLie]

Trutherslie
I will answer all of your questions but not on this thread.
It deserves full discussion on a seperate thread because of the delicacy of the subject in most part but because it needs detailed debate away from a childish ´twoofers are dangerous´ hatefest gathering.
I will put forward a post solely concentrating on the questions you have posted.
Looking forward to it

Same goes for your reply SOT.

Dodge and hand wave completely and utterly noted. Instead of even attempting to answer the questions you have given a BS statement and run away.

Just like expected.

 

[mudlark]

TexasJack

I think you missed the post just above yours but I´ll quote it again for you.

Trutherslie
I will answer all of your questions but not on this thread.
It deserves full discussion on a seperate thread because of the delicacy of the subject in most part but because it needs detailed debate away from a childish ´twoofers are dangerous´ hatefest gathering.
I will put forward a post solely concentrating on the questions you have posted.
Looking forward to it

 

[mudlark]

Dodge and hand wave completely and utterly noted. Instead of even attempting to answer the questions you have given a BS statement and run away.

Just like expected.

Did you understand what I wrote?
I ´dodge´ nobody and ´run away´ from nobody on any issue I believe to be true.
´BS statement´ ???
You want me to go into a detailed answer and go completely off-topic (as I have been warned about regarding rules of this forum)?
I will answer your questions. But not here.

 

[TexasJack]

TexasJack

I think you missed the post just above yours but I´ll quote it again for you.

No I didn't, I'm just pointing out the fact that you said you were done with this thread, yet you continue to post. Why?

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Did you understand what I wrote?
I ´dodge´ nobody and ´run away´ from nobody on any issue I believe to be true.
´BS statement´ ???
You want me to go into a detailed answer and go completely off-topic (as I have been warned about regarding rules of this forum)?
I will answer your questions. But not here.

I'd dare ya!

 

[Sword_Of_Truth]

SOT

Again man?
First I was a nazi now I haven´t a clue about it? Make your mind up.

I changed my position in reponse to new information. Something that you people never do.

You said you didn't know what that link was, so I chose to believe you. Unfortunately for you, however, this means you can't recognize naziism when you're looking right at it.

 

[TruthersLie]

Did you understand what I wrote?
I ´dodge´ nobody and ´run away´ from nobody on any issue I believe to be true.
´BS statement´ ???
You want me to go into a detailed answer and go completely off-topic (as I have been warned about regarding rules of this forum)?
I will answer your questions. But not here.

See here is the dodge.

You make the post. You get called on your BS in the post. and instead of answering the charges that you are full of ****, you state "I'll answer you in another thread" but don't start said thread.

Common truther tactic. Like changing the topic repeatedly when getting their heads handed to them.

Feel free, I'd love to see your new threads which address EACH point which was called a lie/strawman or BS.

You posted and had answers given to you in this thread. you can continue to post on them.

ETA: Why don't I see a single thread started by you? (cuz it is a dodge)
still waiting to see you start a single thread with your BS in it... It should be easy to copy and paste your BS answer here into a new thread...

 

[JihadJane]

It happened once. Why can't it happen again. Not that they haven't tried. I guess you'd have to live here to remember those stories.

I remember the stories. Not a few of the evil ones turned out to be incompetent nobodies, with no "Jihad" connections, egged on by Intelligence sting operations.

What did I say about attacking Iraq? I personally don't agree with going to war with Iraq in the first place. But it did draw extremists in from other areas. Other than that I guess you don't consider Afghanistan a problem with extremism? Or are you gonna spew some imaginary pipeline crap?

We were talking about the military actions of the "War on Terror", of which invading, occupying and destroying Iraq is a major part.

ME: "There is military action, but it's not a war on terror. It's an aggressive resource war and an industrial gangster enterprise."

YOU: "What do you call it when you have a whole bunch military actions on terrorists at the same time? think about it..."



And no, I don't consider that Afghanistan was attacked because of a problem with extremism. It was attacked because of a problem with the US maintaining its position as the dominant world power.

It brings the fight to their door.

A pointless excercise as they can and do simply move next door! Afghans aren't terrorists nor are Iraqis.

It instructive that you have swallowed this quaint Bush propaganda whole and uncritically.

It doesn't take much reading to realize you have some agendas and hate.

Your mind-reading attempts are undermined by the preconceptions imposed by your Mickey Mouse "hater" politics.

Please provide concrete evidence that I'm an "America hater"?

While you're at it, please describe my "agendas".

Of course in war there is collateral damage. That number is extremely low compared to any other conflict in history.

Is that the sum total of your reaction to "collateral damage"?

What do you think the "collateral damage" feels about it? The carnage wrought by US air strikes in particular, in addition to the chronic insecurity created by the occupation, has meant that the Afghans now prefer the Taliban, who they hate, to the US, who they hate even more!

On the other hand groups like Al Queda prefer soft targets for maximum psychological damage. They bomb schools, hospitals, pet markets, etc, etc. They use mental patients as human bombs. This stuff is well documented.

Link to the documents, please.

Check out Iraq body count (I think you've linked it before) but this time check out the deaths and body counts of suicide bombings vs deaths resulting from actions by US forces. It's quite lopsided.

Is "quite lopsided" your new definition of "most"?

The US also bombs schools and hospitals (in Fallujah, for example) not to mention journalists in Baghdad.

These 'people' are animals and cowards. They should be found and eradicated.

No these 'people' really are people, just like you and me, human people with hopes and dreams, and they are no more cowardly than people who kill people from airplanes or computer terminals.

 

[triforcharity]

A number of those family members ARE ´fellow twoofers´.
Ask the first responders choking up their own lung tissue about ´sensationalist distortions´
Everybody is entitled to their own opinion of what happened on 9/11 whether they believe the official story or that they have serious concerns. Tell me, do you not have ONE lingering doubt? Given that these people have actually been caught lying, say with the example of the first responders and the air being ´safe´. They lied. They got caught.
How can you accept ANYTHING these people claim to be true given this fact?

Hey, don't bring victims' families or rescuers into this, you people have no problem spitting on their memories, and implying that we were in on it.

The TM had done absolutely NOTHING for either group. Show me ONE THING the TM has done for us, with some kind of proof.

I'll wait.

 

[JihadJane]

Hey, don't bring victims' families or rescuers into this, you people have no problem spitting on their memories, and implying that we were in on it.

The TM had done absolutely NOTHING for either group. Show me ONE THING the TM has done for us, with some kind of proof.

I'll wait.

I haven't detected mudlark doing any spitting at all... perhaps it is your own "in on it" drooling that is confusing you.


There are some unanswered questions for you earlier in the thread.

 

[johnny karate]

There are some unanswered questions for you earlier in the thread.

...and with that, every single animated irony meter in cyberspace exploded.