Bigfoot: The Patterson Gimlin Film - Part 3

[GT/CS]

I believe you are a disturbed individual.

Please learn to use the quote function.

 

[SweatyYeti]

kitakaze wrote:

I have provided 6 skeletons that in fact exceed the shoulder width proportions of the P7S.......

......that fits Patty.

kitty-POO logic...



kitzo provided 6 "real" skeletons which "exceed the shoulder-width proportions of the Poser7 skeleton"..........which, in turn, "fits Patty"...


So.....therefore...


"....the "real" skeleton MUST exceed Patty's shoulder-width proportions!!!!!"



YA-HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!


UNBEATABLE LOGIC!!!!!!!!!!!



Until you actually compare the "real skeleton" with Patty.....directly...

....And...suddenly......something goes horribly wrong....


Kitzo....you have a sick, and desperate need to play make-believe. I'll leave you to stink-up the place for a while....and wallow in your make-believe BS.


Enjoy yourself, chump.

 

[SweatyYeti]

Poser 7 loses.....the width battle......even with Patty's back turned at an angle...

 

[AtomicMysteryMonster]

You use anecdotes to debunk bigfoot, yet ignore anecdotes of bigfoot!

Wrong again. I threw in that anecdote as an interesting aside to all of the confirmed stuff I linked to.

I also scaled up the left shoulder 5% to simulate placing the skeleton the same approx. distance from the camera as Patty. I apologize to mangler for monkeying with his images. In the end, the fit gets pretty close. Within a large error range mind you. Still a pretty bulky suit tho. JMHO.

I suggest going back and reading the various notes on bulky costumes I've posted in the past.

 

[kitakaze]

I believe you are a disturbed individual.

It's like having the cat lady tell me I don't have any cats...

 

[kitakaze]

Until you actually compare the "real skeleton" with Patty.....directly...

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This has to be like the fourth or fifth time you've done this in two pages. You are using the words "with Patty directly" above an image of foo foo conceptual art. You know, that thing you said you have no interest in proving the validity of. What's wrong with you? Why do you do that? It's very bizarre. It doesn't matter how many colours, fonts, and sizes you put it in, you're still trying to slide by lies as if we don't notice. Is that what Sweaty's amazing technicolor dreamposts are for? Visual distraction from deception? When I think about the amount of time it takes to individually colour words and change sizes and fonts, and yet you can't even answer a simple yes/no question... it's just wow, man.

Kitzo....you have a sick, and desperate need to play make-believe. I'll leave you to stink-up the place for a while....and wallow in your make-believe BS.

Enjoy yourself, chump.

This is coming from the guy thinks we are shooting secret weapons at UFO's in orbit, that Mars is home to the ruins of an ancient alien civilization with a connection to Earth, and that Bigfoot can be found all across North America in such mysterious locations as the town of Valatie, New York...



That's OK, dear ol' Sweaty. After three years of learning the language of Sweaty world, I can interpret the meaning of the tie-dye towel you are tossing in the ring. You are flipping the bird and running away because if you hang around, I'll just keep handing you your purse and pointing out neat things like how even though you claim there is no question you're afraid to answer and that only skeptics run from answering them, you flee from the simple yes/no questions. Questions like these...

Is P7S of normal human proportions? Is that skeleton used to fit Patty showing human bones in proportions that are normal for a human being? Yes or no followed by whatever explanation you care to offer.

That question vexes you. Vexes you to the point where you get all worked up in a tie-dye fit and storm out. It's OK, Sweaty, we know how hard it is. So many blobs to scribble on, so many Mars photos to peruse for walls and buildings, so many show tunes to think up. It's not easy being so woo with nobody but faithful Slatty McPosty on your side...

You take your break, buddy. We'll be here for you when your woo battery is recharged and you're ready to whip out one of the oldies you haven't tried in a few months. Get some popcorn, watch a good DVD, meet some friends, read a nice book, then come on back all Sweaty again.

 

[LTC8K6]

Until you actually compare the "real skeleton" with Patty.....directly...

Sweaty, that's not actually Patty's skeleton. Just thought I'd remind you. No one has any idea what Patty's skeleton looks like, even if we concede that Patty is actually bigfoot. There is no way you can use that skeleton for any real purpose whatsoever. It's nothing but a complete guess and fabrication. You can't measure it to any real ends whatsoever. Using it is a complete waste of your time.

This is part of the reason that bigfootery never gets anywhere. You can't make up skeletons and foot structures, and physiology, and habits, etc., and then go looking and debating based on that house of cards.

You just can't get anywhere that way.

 

[rockinkt]

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Using it is a complete waste of your our time.

Fixed it for you.

 

[LTC8K6]

I have sweaty on ignore, so he's not wasting very much of my time. Sooner or later he'll realize that he won't get anywhere with made up information about bigfoot, except among believers, and there's little point in preaching to the choir if you want to make any progress.

 

[Nonpareil]

I believe you are a disturbed individual.

This is coming from the person with the single freakiest avatar of all time.

 

[William Parcher]

Vintage kitakaze on the PGF...

I see an animal, not a costume- can't change it no matter how hard I try

4 days later...

Like a few people posting here I feel there is some possibility that the subject of the PGF may not be a man in a suit, but like most, I feel a man in a suit is more likely. Many see an obvious suit and I don't, which has begun to make it more interesting to me as a barometer of perception than contentious evidence for BF.

 

[LTC8K6]

The force works fast on the open minded...

 

[GT/CS]

Vintage kitakaze on the PGF...





4 days later...

Ah yes, back when we had real discussions instead of battling trolls.

 

[Vermonter]

I'm sure this has been looked at but...
Apes don't swing their arms when they move. The thing in the P-G film was clearly swinging its arms, and swinging them far, too.

 

[LTC8K6]

I'm sure this has been looked at but...
Apes don't swing their arms when they move. The thing in the P-G film was clearly swinging its arms, and swinging them far, too.

But this is a new ape, so whatever it appears to do or not do, have or not have, etc., is correct for it.

 

[Vermonter]

But this is a new ape, so whatever it appears to do or not do, have or not have, etc., is correct for it.

Of course, that makes perfect sense! XD A new ape...that we haven't found any live or dead specimens of...or skeletal remains...Riiiiiiight. Unless the things have human-like lifespans there would have to be a breeding population. One that leaves remains or evidence.

Zoologists still contend that apes don't swing their arms. But of course, it's Bigfeets, so why not call it a human-ape love child? XD Maybe it's really Jason Voorhees on a bender.

 

[LTC8K6]

Bigfoot has special bones that dissolve quickly in certain soils after death. Bigfoot always knows when it's going to die and seeks out patches of the soil to lay down and die on. Bigfoot only travels in areas near this special soil. Samples of this soil are at Bluff Creek. Thus, a bigfoot bone is never found.

See how easy it is?

 

[SweatyYeti]

Elbow-Span Screwed Bob........Royally

kitakaze wrote:

You are using the words "with Patty directly" above an image of foo foo conceptual art.

The VR skeleton accurately represents the 'body-width to height proportion' of Patty...

Therefore....the comparison of any skeleton's body-width proportion to the 'VR Patty skeleton's' body-width proportion is an accurate representation of a comparison to Patty's body-width proportion.


The result will be exactly the same if an actual image of Patty is used...

Your earlier statement....

kitakaze wrote:

Quote:
I have provided 6 skeletons that in fact exceed the shoulder width proportions of the P7S.......

......that fits Patty.

....has been shown to be wrong.



Now.....feel free to show your statement to be correct.


You can't.




Bonus comparison....with Patty, directly.......


This comparison shows the huge difference in their body-widths...and their elbow-spans...

It is physically impossible for Bob to move his elbow as far away from the middle of his body....his backbone....as Patty's elbow is...(approx. 23").....at the angle that his arm is at, away from his side.


In fact...at 6'0" in height, the maximum distance I can move my elbow away from my backbone is 20".....and that's with my arm held straight-out, horizontally.


Now.....how was Bob able to achieve that demonstrated 23" length.....without even moving his arm out at a greater angle than it is in the image on the left??????????????????????????????
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Answer me that one, kitty-POO...


(Note: the image of Patty was taken at an angle...while Bob's is directly in front.......so the difference between Bob and Patty's body-widths...and their elbow-spans....is even greater than those numbers show. Oops for Bob! )

 

[SweatyYeti]

Physically............Impossible. FOO-FOO on you....kitty-POO-POO.

 

[Drewbot]

Physically............Impossible. FOO-FOO on you....kitty-POO-POO.

Sweaty, regarding the EPIC shoulder/centerline sketch...