9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Trystero4]

Hi, new here. This is a fun little thread isn't it?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Do you see any bombers in the picture you posted? Any bombs being dropped? No? Told you you can't.

Yes I can, even on video: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SU3wkOGXlcY

How do we know the damage -- even if it is Dresden -- was not caused by house-to-house fighting due to Nazis fighting to the last round according to Hitler's insane orders?

Dresden: http://www.ns-archiv.de/krieg/deutschland/dresden/dresden.jpg
You cannot have this kind of damage from house-to-house-fighting with guns and rifles.
Stalingrad: http://history.sandiego.edu/gen/st/~colinm/Stalingrad Pics/Pavlov.jpg Now that's dammage from house-to-house fighting

I can certainly show you many speeches of Hitler saying that, while you can't show me a single bomber actually dropping a bomb on Dresden.

You cannot 'show me speeches' from Hitler where he ordered house-to-house fighting in Dresden. I challenge you. There never was a battle for Dresden. Who wants to defend/attack a pile of rubble?

Look -- movies existed during that time, right? Provide one movie from the time of the bombing actually showing a single American plane throwing a single bomb on Dresden. There are a few CLAIMING to be about it -- but none of them shows the bomb from any plane hitting any cultural landmarks of Dresden.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G-ONKg5ci3I&feature=related

God are you playing in my hand. In the video Americans themselves brag about their destruction of Dresden. I can prove in 3 minutes what happened and you with the combined 'strength' of 10-20 people are completely unable to come up with anything in almost 60 pages.

Skeptic thinks he can reverse roles and by what he sees as copying my tactic that he can prove that Dresden did not happen. I can make a fool of him in 3 minutes. And you cannot do the same to me.

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CASE.

 

[Jontg]

Revisionist agenda, basically. They need to re-write history. I think it gives them the impression that they are smarter and more knowledgeable than other people. Perhaps its an inferiority complex thing.

Like I've said before, it's just a very long-winded and bombastic way of saying "Whoop! That one didn't count! Do-over, ref, do-over!"

 

[9/11-investigator]

Hi, new here. This is a fun little thread isn't it?

There is nothing funny about this subject. It's a tragedy.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Well, coming from someone who ignores hundreds of photographs and documents and records of Nazi atrocities, I find this hilarious.

Of course, the hilarity has something to do with the fact that it's also a tu quoque argument.

I don't ignore them but they are not to the point. There were endless atrocities, but we are discussing here the (non)existence of an industrial extermination program in the 6 so-called death camps. Gaschambers.

 

[Thunder]

There is nothing funny about this subject. It's a tragedy.

yes. it is very sad that some people are soo hateful as to deny the truth that millions of innocent Jews were murdered during WW2.

 

[carlitos]

If he's going to keep ignoring the question on Goebbels' diary entry, I don't think I will keep dirtying my hands by addressing this nazi.

 

[Trystero4]

There is nothing funny about this subject. It's a tragedy.

I said the thread was 'fun' not 'funny'. Thanks for the kind words, though.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Like I've said before, it's just a very long-winded and bombastic way of saying "Whoop! That one didn't count! Do-over, ref, do-over!"

Rearguard fight. No arguments. Outmanouverd .

 

[Nonpareil]

This is too ridiculous to waste time on. You still have not understood what this thread is about.

No, no, you can't be serious there. It's too funny for it to be true!

That Frank chap is about operations in the field against partisans. You know what a partisan is, I hope? I am concentrating here on the 6 so-called extermination camps.

Congratulations. But the Holocaust was more than the camps, like it or not.

Wonder where the Germans got that idea from? Wait I have it:

Theodore N. Kaufman, the author of Germany Must Perish, was a Manhattan-born Jewish businessman who was also chairman of a group that called itself the "American Federation for Peace." The first edition of this slim volume was published in 1940 or early 1941.
Kaufman's fervent proposal for the systematic sterilization of the entire German population was given respectful attention in the American press, including reviews in a number of newspapers. A review in the weekly Time magazine, March 24, 1941, called Kaufman's plan a "sensational idea."

http://www.ihr.org/books/kaufman/perish.html

Congrats. It doesn't matter. We are discussing whether or not the Germans did it. Where they got the idea is irrelevant.

We have discussed this before. Go look it up.

You'll excuse me if I believe that things went badly for you last time. Actaully, you should be thanking me for the chance to redeem yourself.

http://www.aaargh.codoh.info/fran/livres5/crowellholmes.pdf
The Soviet presentation, covering most of February, 1946, was considered excessive by some: after presenting an affidavit that a German commandant had taken Jewish children, thrown them in the air, and then shot them for the entertainment of his small daughter, Justice Parker of the United States would be heard to privately comment: "They have gone too far!"272 When Mesdames Vaillant Couturier and Shmegelovskaya
presented fantastic testimonies of the mass gassings at Auschwitz, Justice Biddle of the United States would note privately "I doubt this"273 and Justice Birkett of the United Kingdom would express private misgivings.274 But it points to the hysterical atmosphere of the time that neither they, nor anyone else, had the courage to publicly dissent and inject some rationality into the proceedings.275

We've been over this. Merely listening to allegations is not a mark against a judge. It is the ruling that matters.

http://www.aaargh.codoh.info/fran/techniques/Holmes2.html
cf. Harris, op. cit. These two women were the main witnesses to what transpired at Auschwitz, Vaillant-Couturier's testimony was admittedly hearsay. They were not cross-examined.


Just bleat your story in the microphone and we will write it down for all eternity.

:rolleyes

You still can't present any evidence, can you?

Wishing and doing are 2 different things. The Germans had no reason whatsoever to like them.

I notice that you didn't comment on Himmler's speech. Why not?

 

[9/11-investigator]

yes. it is very sad that some people are soo hateful as to deny the truth that millions of innocent Jews were murdered during WW2.

Pursuing the truth in a free debate has nothing to do with 'hate', the latest play thingie in legalistic thinking of the Anglos.

 

[Nonpareil]

I don't ignore them but they are not to the point. There were endless atrocities, but we are discussing here the (non)existence of an industrial extermination program in the 6 so-called death camps. Gaschambers.

Aside from the fact that the existence of the gas chambers has been proven, we've explained that there were many other methods of execution.

 

[9/11-investigator]

It's not an inferiority complex if you really are inferior.

You mean inferior like in... Goyim? That's the word you seem to use for use when you are amongst yourselves?

What's the difference again between Goyim and Untermensch?

 

[9/11-investigator]

Aside from the fact that the existence of the gas chambers has been proven

No you have not. In what post# did you do that?

we've explained that there were many other methods of execution.

You don't have to explain that. But the story (lie rather) is that by far the most of them (4 million I believe) were gassed in 6 death-camps. That's what we are discussing here. The holocaust as an intentional large scale extermination program.

The alternative position here defended by revisionists is that 0 people were gassed but that about 250,000 people died in the camps, from sickness, malnourishment and above all typhus, as expressed by this gentleman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM

Great guy.

 

[carlitos]

Hey look! It's Himmler's diary:

Judenfrage / als Partisanen auszurotten

Jewish Question / to be exterminated like the partisans

It's almost like Goebbels and Himmler both heard Hitler say the same thing.

 

[Safe-Keeper]

You mean inferior like in... Goyim? That's the word you seem to use for use when you are amongst yourselves?

What's the difference again between Goyim and Untermensch?

"Um... I... er... Oh! Look over there! Shiny object!"

I'll read back a page or two and see if there's anything to this thread other than 911_investigator taking pot shots.

 

[dudalb]

I am tempted to put 9/11 Investigator on ignore, but I won't give the freaking bigot the satisfaction.

 

[Uzzy]

BECAUSE YOU HAVE NO CASE.

Now, if we were to copy your tactics for the last 50 odd pages, I'd simply dismiss the visual evidence as 'Jewish Propaganda' and blame the Russians.

Anyway, the case was made 60 years ago at Nuremberg. Not once throughout these entire 50 odd pages have you even touched upon why the evidence presented there is wrong. You've constantly attacked the trial itself, saying it was a Jewish Motivated, Russian Revenge, Victors Justice type affair, but not once have you looked at or attacked the evidence. It'd be nice if you started doing that.

 

[dudalb]

Now, if we were to copy your tactics for the last 50 odd pages, I'd simply dismiss the visual evidence as 'Jewish Propaganda' and blame the Russians.

Anyway, the case was made 60 years ago at Nuremberg. Not once throughout these entire 50 odd pages have you even touched upon why the evidence presented there is wrong. You've constantly attacked the trial itself, saying it was a Jewish Motivated, Russian Revenge, Victors Justice type affair, but not once have you looked at or attacked the evidence. It'd be nice if you started doing that.

Never expect "nice" from a Nazi Apologist.

 

[Nonpareil]

No you have not. In what post# did you do that?

Have you been reading this thread at all for the last two pages?

You don't have to explain that. But the story (lie rather) is that by far the most of them (4 million I believe) were gassed in 6 death-camps. That's what we are discussing here. The holocaust as an intentional large scale extermination program.

The alternative position here defended by revisionists is that 0 people were gassed but that about 250,000 people died in the camps, from sickness, malnourishment and above all typhus, as expressed by this gentleman:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k6C9BuXe2RM

Great guy.

Rather than indulging you further, 9/11, when it is so painfully obvious that you neither know nor want to know anything about the Holocaust, I'll simply direct everyone - you included - here.

And you still haven't commented on Himmler's speech.