Libertarian 9/11 truth leader Jim Duensing shot in the back by cops

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Libertarian 9/11 truth leader Jim Duensing shot in the back by cops!

Jim Duensing, 2008 Congressional candidate and founder of the Libertarian 9/11 truth caucus Libertarians for Justice, is in critical condition after being repeatedly shot in the back and arm by a Las Vegas cop. Our prayers go out to Jim, who is recovering with his wife in the hospital and thankfully is expected to survive.

The standard police line about how the suspect was supposedly reaching for a gun, blah blah blah, was contradicted by an eyewitness: "They shot him in the back," she said. "He was just running."
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http://truthjihad.blogspot.com/2009/11/libertarian-911-truth-leader-jim.html

Jim is a friend of mine, and a lawyer & licensed firearms instructor. It is a miracle that none of the three shots fired into his back killed him, or hit his spine, liver, heart, spleen, pancreas, lungs, or major artery.

Jim Duensing Explains Shooting Incident

Jim Duensing, who was shot by a Las Vegas policeman on October 30, and who is seeking the Libertarian Party nomination for U.S. Senate in 2010, has issued a detailed, clear explanation of the incident. He was running from the police because they had tasered him and seemed about to do it a second time. Duensing has heart problems. See Independent Political Report here and read comment #73, which is Duensing’s statement.
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http://www.ballot-access.org/2009/11/01/jim-duensing-explains-shooting-incident/

I'm glad that given settled Supreme Court case law, Jim is likely to win a big lawsuit and be compensated for the pain he has endured.

Jim seems to have been targetted because he was running for US Senate against Harry Reid:

http://www.hellforharry.com/
 
http://www.lvrj.com/news/friend-identifies-man-shot-by-police-68202707.html

Better story than the truncated versions above.

He was stopped because he had a warrant for an arrest. Police tried to taze him because he was reaching for a weapon, and it may have been for two weapons (a gun and a folding knife)

he then fled from police when the taze was unsuccessful so the police shot at him.


Gee....targeted because he was running for US Senate? that is a freaking stretch. He already has a WARRANT for his arrest and he WAS FLEEING from the police.


And he is no longer a chairman for the Libertarian party:

Clark County Libertarian Party chairman Nathan Santucci said Duensing was the party's state chairman until earlier this year.


"The Libertarian Party does not advocate fleeing from police as a means of peaceful conflict resolution," Santucci said. "Although he is a past officer of our party, he currently holds no official standing with our party as an elected officer. Our thoughts go out to him, his family and the officer involved in the incident.
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Nothing to do with running for office.
 
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More on the fact that this had nothing to do with running for office:

http://www.lasvegassun.com/news/2009/nov/02/metro-officer-identified-traffic-stop-shooting/
http://www.mercurynews.com/news/ci_13684865
http://www.lasvegasnow.com/Global/story.asp?S=11419445



He did an illegal U-turn, driving unsafely, police pulled him over, found out he had warrants for his arrest, attempted to arrest him, guy fled, office tried to taze him, and then shot him when guy seemed to reach for a gun in his pocket; police stated he saw the gun.


Motive is not evidence - crimes can be committed without a motive. Motive just give a reason to why a person may do a crime, but it is not evidence.
 
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A couple of things to touch on here, based on the LV Review-Journal story (aah, Arus also decided to get a non-blog version of the story):

Police said Duensing then fled and was unsuccessfully Tased and shot several times after he reached in his front pocket for a .45-caliber handgun. Police also said Duensing reached for a large folding knife.

"He was Tased. He did tell me that," Duensing's friend said. "I think when the officer Tased him, it scared the crap out of him. I don't think he expected to be Tased over a traffic stop."

The friend said Duensing didn't tell him if he had carried a weapon during the shooting. But he said Duensing does have a concealed weapons permit and also works at a gun range as a shooting instructor.
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As a permit holder myself, the VERY FIRST THING you do if you're carrying a concealed weapon when pulled over is put both hands on the steering wheel and alert the officer you're in possession of a gun. It's part of the deal you make to get your license. If he didn't do that and the officer saw a bulge all bets are off at that point.

As for the notion he was "targeted" because of the threat he posed to Harry Reid's Senate seat:

Duensing unsuccessfully ran for Congress against Shelley Berkley, D-Nev, in 2008, 2006 and 2004, generally garnering 2 percent to 3 percent of the vote.
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So... umm... yeah...
 
Arus808 said:
http://www.lvrj.com/news/friend-identifies-man-shot-by-police-68202707.html

Better story than the truncated versions above.

He was stopped because he had a warrant for an arrest. Police tried to taze him because he was reaching for a weapon, and it may have been for two weapons (a gun and a folding knife)

he then fled from police when the taze was unsuccessful so the police shot at him.


Gee....targeted because he was running for US Senate? that is a freaking stretch. He already has a WARRANT for his arrest and he WAS FLEEING from the police.


And he is no longer a chairman for the Libertarian party:








Nothing to do with running for office.
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Two witnesses, Jim, a woman who happened to be nearby, both said no gun was pulled. The police have motive to lie to avoid attempted murder charges. Jim and the other eyewitness are both very credibile.

Jim is a licensed attorney, a licensed firearms instructor, and an official of the Libertarian Party of Nevada (he is a voting memebr of the Executice Committee and former Chairman).

I know Jim and can serve as a character witness as well.
 
Drudgewire said:
A couple of things to touch on here, based on the LV Review-Journal story (aah, Arus also decided to get a non-blog version of the story):



As a permit holder myself, the VERY FIRST THING you do if you're carrying a concealed weapon when pulled over is put both hands on the steering wheel and alert the officer you're in possession of a gun. It's part of the deal you make to get your license. If he didn't do that and the officer saw a bulge all bets are off at that point.

As for the notion he was "targeted" because of the threat he posed to Harry Reid's Senate seat:



So... umm... yeah...
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He was tased and has a heart condition, so was unable to do that. Jom could have shot them all dead if he was not stunned by the illegal use of the taser.
 
"Motive is evidence." I like that. It could work for almost anything.

Dogs are people.
Paper is plastic.
Planets are stars.
 
Galileo said:
Two witnesses, Jim, a woman who happened to be nearby, both said no gun was pulled.
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Sorry, but was she standing right next to the guy at the time? Was she the one chasing the guy? No, she was watching from her apartment window.

she had no view of him when he was fleeing from the police.

I trust the officer's testimony over that of an eyewitness who didn't witness the whole incident.



The police have motive to lie to avoid attempted murder charges. Jim and the other eyewitness are both very credibile.
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Now you are stretching with this.

Police had no motive. the guy was carrying a concealed weapon, didn't notify the officer of this fact, he was pulled over for making two traffic violations and when the office found out he had WARRANTS for his arrest (meaning that he has ALREADY broken the law before), he attempted to arrest this man. THe man FLEd, and struggled to reach for something in his pocket. Officer had every right to TASE him, but it was unsuccessful so that time, he shot at the man.



Jim is a licensed attorney, a licensed firearms instructor, and an official of the Libertarian Party of Nevada (he is a voting memebr of the Executice Committee and former Chairman).
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As stated from the Libertarian Party rep, he is no longer a chairman nor an official that represents their party.

I know Jim and can serve as a character witness as well.
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seeing that you have the credibility of pond scum, I would suggest that you do not boast that. Than and the fact that you are now associating with a criminal.
 
carlitos said:
"Motive is evidence." I like that. It could work for almost anything.

Dogs are people.
Paper is plastic.
Planets are stars.
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Motive??
Like Duensing posed a real threat to Harry Reid's relection.
You fail Galileo,bigtime.
Yet Again.
 
Galileo said:
He was tased and has a heart condition, so was unable to do that.
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the officer didn't know that. He should have not fled in the first place, notified the officer that he had a concealed weapon and let the officer relieve him of that weapon.

He should not have fled as well, which is why he was tased. Had he not fled, obeyed the officer during a traffic stop and not resisted arrest, he would have been simply handcuffed and put into the back of the officer's car.

he fled from the officer, which lead to the unsuccessful tasing.

Jom could have shot them all dead if he was not stunned by the illegal use of the taser.
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nice that you would advocate violence like that.
 
Galileo said:
He was tased and has a heart condition, so was unable to do that. Jom could have shot them all dead if he was not stunned by the illegal use of the taser.
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"He could've shot them all dead" is the sort of attitude which suggests a tasing may not have been a bad idea.


Galileo said:
I know Jim and can serve as a character witness as well.
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Out of respect for the seriousness of the situation, I won't touch that one.
 
Please note that the Libertarian Party is being careful not to try to excuse Duening's behavior.
 
why didn't the 9-11 truther face the cop (a.k.a. jackbooted NWO thug) face to face like a true revolutionary?
 
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