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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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Really? I thought he was a physician. Boy, I sure hope that a bunch of dead president believed him! That'd convince me in a jiffy!
 
Luke 22:43-44 (King James Version)

43And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him.

44And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.
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We have Luke's testimony, six7s.
And just as well this testimony is from a doctor, isn't it, or that second verse would be difficult to believe.
 
Akhenaten said:
Tolkien mentions trolls, that's good enough for me, if not for others so be it.

Here is another fact about trolls:

From the article: What does the Lord of the Rings teach about trolls?

Trolls are mentioned at least 457 832 times in the The Hobbit and 493 875 835 times in the Ring trilogy.

See this massively popular thread for details:

Middle Earth - the Untold Story the White
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Not only that, but trolls are independently verified by the historic and sacred texts of medieval Scandinavia. For instance, Grettir Asmundarson killed a she-troll in the early 11th century. Elves and dwarfs are also well attested. For instance, Gandalf and many of the dwarfs from LOTR are mentioned in dvergatal (included as part of Voluspa in the Poetic Edda).

Even today, modern Icelanders can show you dwarfs who have been turned to stone by staying out too long, and Icelandic highways are built around known elf-rocks. So there is clear documentary and archeological evidence that Tolkien told the truth.

In closing, let me give praise to Odin.




And the Aten.







And, just to be on the safe side, all glory to the Hypnotoad.
 
Lucian said:
Not only that, but trolls are independently verified by the historic and sacred texts of medieval Scandinavia. For instance, Grettir Asmundarson killed a she-troll in the early 11th century. Elves and dwarfs are also well attested. For instance, Gandalf and many of the dwarfs from LOTR are mentioned in dvergatal (included as part of Voluspa in the Poetic Edda).

Even today, modern Icelanders can show you dwarfs who have been turned to stone by staying out too long, and Icelandic highways are built around known elf-rocks.
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Elves have now left the building, to engineers
 
DOC said:
From Yahoo answers:

...also the unicorn references refer to the rhinoceros.

Reply: The first one should be fairly obvious; Hebrew "sa`iyr" vs English "satyr". As to the second, it may be called a unicorn because it refers to the creature's most notable feature, its horn. Also if you check the KJV margin for Isaiah 34:7. you'll find "Rhinocerots" as an alternate English rendering of the word "unicorn".

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090310044335AAmiONC
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I'm surprised DOC didn't quote AiG as they've an article dedicated to the subject of unicorns in the Bible.
Dr. Elizabeth Mitchell's complete entry can be read here:

http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cach...the+Bible&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=es&lr=lang_en

A sample:
...Modern readers have trouble with the Bible’s unicorns because we forget that a single-horned feature is not uncommon on God’s menu for animal design. (Consider the rhinoceros and narwhal.) The Bible describes unicorns skipping like calves (Psalm 29:6), traveling like bullocks, and bleeding when they die (Isaiah 34:7). The presence of a very strong horn on this powerful, independent-minded creature is intended to make readers think of strength.

The absence of a unicorn in the modern world should not cause us to doubt its past existence. (Think of the dodo bird. It does not exist today, but we do not doubt that it existed in the past.).
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My bolding.
I'm puzzled by the reference to the narwhal and the rhino, neither of which are one horned animals, but there you go.
 
Hokulele said:
Cactus Wren said:
joobz, you asked sonofgloin:
joobz said:
How do you define adultery?
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You'll have noticed that he carefully sidestepped this question, but I'd bet a fair amount that his definition doesn't match the biblical one.
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Which biblical one? The NT version where Jesus defines it as "looking at a woman with lust in your heart"?

:cool:
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;) But not the OT definition either. A careful reading reveals that according to the OT, a married man who has sex with a prostitute -- or who rapes an unbetrothed virgin -- is not committing adultery.

sonofgloin said:
Cactus you should consider a career as a fight promoter, you say the right things at the right time, do you have an opinion or just happy to play puppet master from the shade. Sidestepped, smidestepped, I missed it (a bit of Yiddish humour there just to keep in theme)
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You most assuredly did not "miss" it. You answered with a non-answer. I consider this to be sidestepping.
 
Paulhoff said:
So, over 7,000 posts, and still no Evidence, none. Why is this so-called god so unpowerful, so unknowing, so.............., never mind, it is such a waste of time.
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There are hundreds of my posts in this thread that say otherwise. The good news is that they are out there for anyone who has the time and desire to read them.
 
Simon39759 said:
Really? I thought he was a physician. Boy, I sure hope that a bunch of dead president believed him! That'd convince me in a jiffy!
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Winston Churchill was a Prime Minister but that didn't stop him from winning the Nobel Prize for Literature for his book on the History of World War 2.
 
six7s said:
When? Where? To whom?

Oh... you're not trying to tell lies for your messiah by using circular reasoning, again, are you?
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Oh, yea, I know, skeptics believe if it is in the Bible it's not reliable? But don't tell that to the professional historians and archaeologists who have used it for their research.
 
Appeal to number of posts....tick
List of matyrs....tick
Dude who said something about Luke....tick
Name of famous dude who believed....tick

****BINGO*****
 
pakeha said:
We have Luke's testimony, six7s.
And just as well this testimony is from a doctor, isn't it, or that second verse would be difficult to believe.
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Not really, there is an actual condition of sweating blood which can occur under great stress. This thus supports the truthfulness of the verse since it is rare, and not something likely to be made up.

http://www.apologeticspress.org/articles/2223
 
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DOC said:
Oh, yea, I know, skeptics believe if it is in the Bible it's not reliable? But don't tell that to the professional historians and archaeologists who have used it for their research.
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Well, that's an interesting argument you've introduced, DOC.
Doesn't it seem likely that the 'Bibical' lands are treasure houses of undiscovered archeological finds?
After all, fresh archeological finds are turning up every week, if BAR is correct.

In any case, since it's your argument, won't you tell us about the archeological finds in Nazareth? And Jericho? How about the archeological find which debunked Sir William Ramsey's 'confirmation' of the bibical census?

Or how about explaining how archeological finds give evidence for the NT writers telling the truth?


I'd like to see you presenting evidence, not lists of incidental details, not pulpit pulp fiction, but evidence; the burden of proof is on you because you have made a claim to the effect the NT writers told the truth.
 
Back again.
Yes, it's a rare condition, but no proof of anything but icing on the cake, like the angels mentioned in the verse directly before it.
Luke wasn't in the garden himself, as far as I know, so which witness told him this detail, if all the apostles were asleep?
 
DOC said:
Oh, yea, I know, skeptics believe if it is in the Bible it's not reliable? But don't tell that to the professional historians and archaeologists who have used it for their research.
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Happy Hallowe'en


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