I claim – as I have indicated above – that the observers saw what they reported. Nothing more, nothing less.
Cool... something that was eventually classed as UNIDENTIFIED then... can we move on to the case where the 'experts' conclude Alien Craft please?
1. The report of the sighting – which clearly rules out any plausible mundane explanation that I am aware of (meteors, “fireballs”, etc) and clearly has the White Sands commanders puzzled
Remind me where the detailed information about the process they went through to systematically rule out the mundane is? I don't seem to be able to find that document.
Now they would NOT have been so puzzled had the objects been explicable as any plausible mundane object.
So presumption then... If there is something they are puzzled about, why the surprise that THEY weren't jumping to conclusions about what it was or wasn't? The fact is that after observing and recording an event and gaining 'some' information, they were still puzzled. Though obviously not overly concerned about it or they would have followed it up with further observation, reporting and data collection/analysis (for example: if they had thought it was aliens invading).
You stated:
”The way science works indeed, but what has UFOlogy got do to with science?”
Simply, we can apply the methodology of science to the study of UFOs.
Tell that to the UFOlogists then and take your own advice on board perhaps?
Perhaps you did not think of applying the scientific method yourself?
I did and I do... Though I am not a scientist, just someone with a keen interest in looking for real signs that aliens are flying around our planet.
So far, I have not seen any evidence that stands up to scrutiny when scientific standards are applied to it, even when it is reported as being 'scientific investigation.
I have asserted a number of hypotheses. I have been placing evidence on the record to support those hypotheses. If you dispute my hypotheses or the evidence I present, then please do so. Making assertions as you have just done advances the debate precisely nowhere.
The counter evidence has been placed in this thread by lots of people (myself included). Your assertions that it shows nothing only get us back to the conclusion that these event were classified as UNIDENTIFIED.
So if you could now provide us with a case were the conclusion was Alien Craft, perhaps that would tip the scales in your favour.
Indeed you are right…and I HAVE been submitting evidence for my claims. If you dispute the evidence or claims then you MUST provide your reasoning for such and support any assertions or claims of your own with evidence. It’s as simple as that really.
You haven't though... you have been supplying information that concludes UNIDENTIFIED.
You are hoping to build up a picture of something that is not there by making connections between unrelated event which could have all sorts of mundane causes, from bad evidence gathering, inaccurate reporting, misidentification, dishonesty, hoaxing, poor witness accounts, bias etc. etc. etc.
For example:
I can prove that pink unicorns exist.
Let's look at the evidence: Many stories about unicorns have been written through the ages so they must be based on fact. A list of the unicorn stories to support my claim that they have been seen and recognised for a long time is:
The First Animal Named
Daniel and the Unicorn
King Arthur and the Unicorn
The Unicorn Who Walks Alone
The Fair Maid and the Snow White Unicorn
Chinese Folk Tale
Shimmer
The Court of the Summer King
Unicorns get more than one mention in the Bible... An accurate hostorical record of our planet's history:
Numbers 24:8 “God brought him forth out of Egypt; he hath as it were the strength of a unicorn: he shall eat up the nations his enemies, and shall break their bones, and pierce
them through with his arrows.”
Deuteronomy 33:17 “His glory
is like the firstling of his bullock, and his horns
are like the horns of unicorns: with them he shall push the people together to the ends of the earth: and they
are the ten thousands of Ephraim, and they
are the thousands of Manasseh.”
Job 39:9-10 “Will the unicorn be willing to serve thee, or abide by thy crib? Canst thou bind the unicorn with his band in the furrow? or will he harrow the valleys after thee?”
Psalm 22:21 “Save me from the lion's mouth: for thou hast heard me from the horns of the unicorns.”
Psalm 29:6 “He maketh them also to skip like a calf; Lebanon and Sirion like a young unicorn.”
Psalm 92:10 “But my horn shalt thou exalt like
the horn of a unicorn: I shall be anointed with fresh oil.”
Isaiah 34:7 “And the unicorns shall come down with them, and the bullocks with the bulls; and their land shall be soaked with blood, and their dust made fat with fatness.”
And even before the Bible was written, during the Upper Paleolithic period, people were painting Unicorn's on cave walls:
http://www.theartwolf.com/news/lascaux-caves-danger.htm
So let's move on the physical boilogical evidence for Unicorns.
Well we know that a Unicorn looks like this:
Because here is a photo of one.
But despite some people photographing them over the years, we have never actually been able to prove their existence, because no scientist has ever managed to capture one. So let's look at the data available.
The above photo is obviously based upon one of these animals:
A horse...which we have much conclusive proof of the existence of and biological data:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Horse
but it's the wrong
trousers colour. We are looking for proof of a pink unicorn...
Well as the horse is a mammal, if it was possible to have a pink mammal, it would prove that it is possible to have a pink horse.
A pink mammal then!
http://www.recipezaar.com/bb/viewtopic.zsp?t=294948
Which we know is a mammal because scientists have examined them in great detail:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolphin
So now all the various bits are coming together, we know we can have a pink horse. All that is missing is a single horn...
The Narwhal is only one contender... because of it's closer relationship to the pink dolphin, but there are a few others.
Here's one that bears more than a passing resemblance to the horse:
A single horned deer.
Full story here
So now you can see how all this evidence builds up into a picture of Pink Unicorns being real...
I would further contend that there are two distinct species of pink unicorns too. A visible and an invisible kind... the invisible one's a prooving much harder to pin down the evidence though, so there is much doubt as to their true existence.
