Save the planet, go veggie, Oh Lordy

Nosi

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Lord Stern wants us all to go vegetarian to 'save the planet'.

I'm as concerned as the average citizen of garden Earth regards solution and climate change, but I am not certain if human kind is 100% the cause of climate change (we must take into consideration that big orange ball in the sky; the sun, volcanoes, and other stuff) much less the appetites of people for a big rib eye steak.

There are also other forms of meat, and other ways to cultivate meat, that are less problematic for our global home. Among them are 'grass fed' meats and insects that are enjoyed in other parts by the less squeamish.

Lord Stern claims that meat will go the way of drunk driving in acceptance. I am not so sure. Crystal balls for future gazing are very often opaque.

I predict that meat eating and meat eater fads will go a different way should this treaty get signed. I predict that meats will be farmed with greener and 'kinder' technologies as the Web exposes factory farming for the horror it is both on the environment, eaters, and the animals. (What technologies I can't begin to guess, although inland fish farms are a possibility.)

Breeders are developing breeds of cattle that require less land to raise yet produce more meat per animal today. In the future, this can go to extremes for ultimate low impact beef farming.

Birds and their eggs are always a safe bet, as the 'urban chicken' is everywhere including the United States. Some vegetarians eat eggs. Vegans are the ones who give all animal products a strict pass.
 
Sure, these anti-plant bigots always have a good rationalization. What else is new? Save the planet, my rear.

Think of the plants, man, think of the plants. Don't they feel pain too? Can you look a tomato in the eyes when you cut it and not see it squirming?

Sure, it's no picnic for the cows either, but one cow's death can save literally thousands of apples and tomatoes and cucumbers from a gruesome death. I say the sacrifice is worth it. It will have died a hero's death and go to, well, wherever good cows go after death. I think it's called McDonald's.

Damn, now I have the munchies ;)
 
Think of the plants, man, think of the plants. Don't they feel pain too? Can you look a tomato in the eyes when you cut it and not see it squirming?

Just wait until science develops enough to detect that plants do indeed feel pain. Breatharians will be the new thing...and the death of the human race.
 
Crystal balls for future gazing are very often opaque.

I predict that meat eating and meat eater fads will go a different way

I have seen the future!

Artificial meat! Assembled from raw elements into completely accurate copies of actual animal parts, but never actually part of an animal! Molecule-to-molecule duplicate meat!

Which naturally will remove all ethical constraints and taboos from eating it, no matter what kind of meat you create, because it was never actually part of a living animal.

And you know what that means, right?

HUMAN MEAT FOR DINNER! In fact, the technology will be so good at copying animal meat, you can copy individuals to get their distinct flavor! Feeling hungry? Fire up the MeatMaker and clone a pound of your own flesh. After all, the process of digestion is turning other matter into your own cells, right? What possible better food could there be than your own meat, then?

Go on, then. Eat yourself! Then eat me. We'll all gather round the gleaming beacon of technology and eat each other. The circle of life becomes an ouroborous of simulated cannibalism, and we achieve the pinnacle of consumer society by consuming ourselves, endlessly. Won't you share my dream, and join the feasting? It's good. So, so good.
 
As a vegetarian, I'd be happy to try artificial meat.
As a vegetarian for approaching 13 years now, I doubt I'd like it.
 
Only one response to "go vegetarian"s: BACON.

I tried the vegetarian version - I will never do that to my tastebuds again.
 
Can we, ooh I dunno, have fewer people to feed instead of less meat to eat? Just an idea...

:duck:
 
KAAAAAAHNNNN!!!!!!... Wait... Ah dammit!


Det. Thorn: It's people. Soylent Green is made out of people. They're making our food out of people. Next thing they'll be breeding us like cattle for food. You've gotta tell them. You've gotta tell them!

Hatcher: I promise, Tiger. I promise. I'll tell the exchange.

Det. Thorn: You tell everybody. Listen to me, Hatcher. You've gotta tell them! Soylent Green is people! We've gotta stop them somehow!
 
Can we, ooh I dunno, have fewer people to feed instead of less meat to eat? Just an idea...

:duck:

The fertility rate of the richest countries is 2 or lower (US is the exception at 2.1). This means we are either reproducing at a rate that is just enough or lower to replace ourselves. "Third world" countries are reproducing like rabbits, with some having fertility rates of as high as 8!

So, the question is, which "third world" country would you like to decimate?
 
The fertility rate of the richest countries is 2 or lower (US is the exception at 2.1). This means we are either reproducing at a rate that is just enough or lower to replace ourselves. "Third world" countries are reproducing like rabbits, with some having fertility rates of as high as 8!

What about comparative infant mortality rates? And average life expectancy? And level of vegetarianism?
 
Beef cattle raising IS among the least efficient ways of food production; that goes twice for "cornfed" beef. Sheep and chickens are a bit more defendable, pigs are in between.

Meat production by current methods is long term unsustainable. "I like bacon!" is not much of a counter-argument.

(<-- meateater)
 
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