Top 10 Connections between NIST and Nanothermite

[TexasJack]

Exaggeration is a sign of desperation.

No, claiming nano-thermite is a sign of desperation.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Now this is funny:

ABEL: … what about that letter where NIST said it didn’t look for evidence of explosives?

NEUMAN: Right, because there was no evidence of that.

ABEL: But how can you know there’s no evidence if you don’t look for it first?

NEUMAN: If you’re looking for something that isn’t there, you’re wasting your time….

Neuman's absolutely right. Truthers claim that "Nano-thermite" is there, but then when the findings from previous tests only tell us that there was no "nano-thermite" in the dust.

Has David Ray Griffin, Steven Jones or Richard Gage actually tested the dust samples themselves?

If they haven't, they're producing a red herring!

 

[The Big Dog]

Who said every square inch of the WTC was sprayed with the stuff? Exaggeration is a sign of desperation.

Is there a connection between NIST and nanothermites? Yes or no.

"Who said every square inch of the WTC was sprayed with the stuff?" No one Red. You know Exaggeration is a sign of desperation.

I don't mean to get ahead of you Facter, but are we to assume that your point in this little exercise is that Big Nano-Thermite and NIST got together to bring down the towers?

Well Red, I got to hand it to you, that is spectacularly idiotic, even for a Truther Facter like yourself.

Red, we know you are just JAQ'ing off, but for god's sake, lad, pull yourself together.

 

[TexasJack]

OK, I get five diffrent links to this story
http://animalbehaviorcounselors.org/members/newsletter/0303/dogfraud.shtml

Which is about a bomb-detection dog business in Virginia, that failed several test. It didn't say that they where at or had anything to do with 9/11, nor that bomb-detection dogs from any other groups were unreliable.

This was brought up by HI here, if you want to witness some ultimate stupid from him just go through that thread.
http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?t=147660&highlight=bombs+dogs

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Even if there was "nano-thermite" it would'nt leave a trace of itself once it's burned.

We're talking about particules of aluminum dust & iron rust that are microscopic that you'd have to find them with a microscope.

Microscopic particules burn out in a fraction of a second.

So to say that the Towers were brought down by "nano-thermite" is looking rather stupid & idiotic to even bring up in a conversation.

A nano is "one billionth" the size of regular dust particules.

And you're talking about lbs of the stuff? LMAO!

 

[CHF]

So, as I understand it, the truthers have narrowed down their WTC thermite options to:

1) it was sprayed on

2) it acted as a (pointless) ignition source for conventional explosives

I'm not sure which is dumber.

 

[RedIbis]

"Who said every square inch of the WTC was sprayed with the stuff?" No one Red.

There's no need to be more obnoxious than usual. Check post #15

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

So, as I understand it, the truthers have narrowed down their WTC thermite options to:

1) it was sprayed on

2) it acted as a (pointless) ignition source for conventional explosives

I'm not sure which is dumber.

I'll sum that up in one word for ya CHF:

BOTH

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

Here's what Sol-Gel nano's look like under the microscope:

SEM micrograph of amorphous colloidal silica particles (average particle diameter 600 nm) precipitated in basic solution from TEOS using ammonium hydroxide as a morphological catalyst.

The sol-gel process is a wet-chemical technique (a.k.a. chemical solution deposition) widely used recently in the fields of materials science and ceramic engineering. Such methods are used primarily for the fabrication of materials (typically a metal oxide) starting from a chemical solution which acts as the precursor for an integrated network (or gel) of either discrete particles or network polymers. Typical precursors are metal alkoxides and metal chlorides, which undergo various forms of hydrolysis and polycondensation reactions. The formation of a metal oxide involves connecting the metal centers with oxo (M-O-M) or hydroxo (M-OH-M) bridges, therefore generating metal-oxo or metal-hydroxo polymers in solution. Thus, the sol evolves towards the formation of a gel-like diphasic system containing both a liquid phase and solid phase whose morphologies range from discrete particles to continuous polymer networks.

The interest in sol-gel processing can be traced back in the mid-1880s with the observation that the hydrolysis of tetraethyl orthosilicate (TEOS) under acidic conditions led to the formation of SiO2 in the form of fibers and monoliths. Sol-gel research grew to be so important that in the 1990s more than 35,000 papers were published worldwide on the process.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sol-gel

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

If Red wants to go in depth about nano-thermite, there's more than 35,000 papers available about it in a Sol-Gel form.

 

[BasqueArch]

So, as I understand it, the truthers have narrowed down their WTC thermite options to:

1) it was sprayed on

2) it acted as a (pointless) ignition source for conventional explosives

I'm not sure which is dumber.

It was sprayed on.

(Instructions in back of nano-thermate can)

Notes Apply What Is Proper Way To Put Material:

Your columns are focal point of building. Be sure that columns painting meshing techniques and choice of most flattering to your surreptitiouse purpose when reinstaling.

Outside columns takeout aluminunum covers put by watercoler remove all hand plaster from columns four sides remember not forget three sides outside of windows. Inside remove columns plaster sheets. Throw trash down elevators.

With color C create the illusion new shapes and discrete sizes. Always mind light colors highlight errors and dark colors enter in the suspicious of authorities especialy paint not dry to touching.

Recede over when approached by questioners so as to disguise the plaster of reapplication in time for drying in two coat . It's Aluminumnum powder color A column shadows be convenient do not hurry when surprised by owner of office says "Hey what you doing in my office" reply with singles or coordinated duos, or quads. A tested reply assurance OK and go on.

Try to find far away columns that are hily misterious. Simply put, you want material you see in container to not see after aplycation. When aplying material sweep the stroke over entire area from illusion edged to neck widow. This sweep will be base application first slowly and is to complete job reduce strain energy tender forearms. It will prevent creasing etc etc.

Put plaster on columns outside of windows , aluminumum column covers place to look as if not touched. After plaster work dry applying base coat, apply second wait dry. Remember plaster removal first steel paint on upper parts tardy not other way. Its part that most error apply. No.

Third coat be added. Use a deep, dark depth. Apply this along the line, and at the outer drawers emphasizing the crease of the corner at steel lips. Arrest attrition ,this is more defined receptacles.

How you apply final coat help smaller, wider set or closer together. Key is blend well that attention still away from recent work arrested not "just applied".

Install ceiling tile.

There done.

 

[9/11 Chewy Defense]

They must've sprayed some magical pixie dust, oh I'm sorry Truthers, it wasn't pixie dust but Nano-thermite *cough* pixie dust *cough* that they put on the support columns.

But then the mystery really thickens, or does it?, that the application of sol-gel on the columns weren't noticed in the dust.

Could it possibly be that the sprayed on nano-thermite is really an invisibility cloak in order to hide the particules in the dust?

There you have it, sprayed on nano-thermite is actually a invisibility spray that transforms into nothing & is shown as nothing in the tests results.

 

[jaydeehess]

Who said every square inch of the WTC was sprayed with the stuff? Exaggeration is a sign of desperation.

Is there a connection between NIST and nanothermites? Yes or no.

are you asking if there 7 or fewer degrees of separation between the organization known as NIST and the material known as nano-thermite?

Probably not eh RI? After all asking such a question would be patently stupid.

I live in a small town in the center of Canada, I have a diploma in electronic technology yet I have relatively few degrees of separation to the substance in question.

I went to university in Ottawa. I lived in a suite in the university residence and was friendly with the others in the suite including a chemistry major who was working on his masters degree. In the summer he worked for the USN (he was a US citizen). He worked with other military chemistry Ph.D.'s some of whom had previously worked for the Air Force and specifically on incidiaries. I don't know if they were thermite based but even if they were not these guys would know the people who were.

Besides, theere's an "N" in the name of the town I live in!!!1!!!!!

 

[jaydeehess]

So, does the paper explain how much heat energy would be imparted to the steel by a millimeter coating of thermite(of any flavour), accross say a specific surface area, and how this would be enough to cause said WTC steel columns to be compromised in any way?

 

[johnny karate]

Exaggeration is a sign of desperation.

I like how Red manufactures random, nonsensical aphorisms when he can't otherwise support an argument.

 

[jaydeehess]

Well, if exaggeration is a sign of desperation that means that ol' bill smith and a few other TM's are quite the desparadoes.

 

[WildCat]

Who said every square inch of the WTC was sprayed with the stuff? Exaggeration is a sign of desperation.

How can I exaggerate what you haven't claimed? Got any claims RedIbis? No? Then I'm free to make assumptions based on your cowardly open-ended posting style.

Is there a connection between NIST and nanothermites? Yes or no.

No, NIST did not develop nano-thermite to blow up the WTC and then claim it was done by airplanes when they were tasked to investigate the collapses..

It is my belief that only someone either incredibly stupid or mentally ill would believe such a thing. You don't believe that, do you Red?

 

[johnny karate]

Well, if exaggeration is a sign of desperation that means that ol' bill smith and a few other TM's are quite the desparadoes.

It's a phrase that doesn't makes sense on it's own, and particularly not in the context of this thread where there's been absolutely nothing presented to make anyone feel remotely "desperate" about anything.

Par for course for the level of argumentation we get from RedIbis. He might as well have just said "Reading these words is a sign of you being wrong".

 

[jhunter1163]

It was sprayed on.

(Instructions in back of nano-thermate can)

Notes Apply What Is Proper Way To Put Material:

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Nominated!

I'm still laughing...

 

[TexasJack]

Look, AE911 added a meteorologist and he has discovered El Niño-thermite at the WTC.