Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
I believe people don't explain themselves for 2 reasons.

1) It takes no work; in other words its the lazy man's debating method.

2) You guard yourself against me being able to respond to specific points of your argument since you don't give any.
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What do you believe is the reason some people repeat discredited arguments so much?
DOC said:
It scares me that there are probably people like you on jury duty. I guess that's why so many people get convicted wrongly. All this new DNA technology is freeing a lot of people wrongly convicted. Some have even been put to death wrongly
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Putting witches to death is in the bible, DNA isn't.
 
DOC said:
It scares me that there are probably people like you on jury duty. I guess that's why so many people get convicted wrongly. All this new DNA technology is freeing a lot of people wrongly convicted. Some have even been put to death wrongly
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I'd be more scared that someone who did not understand what 'evidence' was was on a jury, not to mention someone unable to understand simple explanations. I'm glad to see you are in favour of some scientific advances, though.
 
DOC said:
So the Germans who killed the Jews in the Holocaust were acting reasonably because they honestly believed it was in the best interest of their country and thus themselves and their families to kill them?
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Okay, we got a Godwin. Close the thread.
 
Alas, wolrab, it isn't the first.
In fact, it came almost as a relief from the Wikipedia Martyrs list.
Or the 23,000 manuscripts can't be wrong argument from Josh McDowell, which, as I think on it, we haven't seen lately.
 
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pakeha said:
Alas, wolrab, it isn't the first.
In fact, it came almost as a relief from the Wikipedia Martyrs list.
Or the 23,000 manuscripts can't be wrong argument from Josh McDowell, which, as I think on it, we haven't seen lately.
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Give it another 10 pages and I'm willing to predict that Mr. Josh McDowell and his 23.000 manuscripts can't be wrong argument will resurface.
 
Amazer said:
Give it another 10 pages and I'm willing to predict that Mr. Josh McDowell and his 23.000 manuscripts can't be wrong argument will resurface.
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This is true.

You know, I used to come to DOC threads because he'd make many new silly arguments. Now, for the past year+, he's been simply rehashing old silly arguments.
 
pakeha said:
Could it have to do with...inerrancy?
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With Luke or with Josephus. We know Josephus was close to a Roman Emperor and most likely owed his life to the emperor. Josephus also lived in Rome. The motivation would certainly be there to make Christian writings look wrong since the Christians were causing so many problems for the empire.

Also Josephus says Moses was in Egypt and even won a battle for Egypt against the Ethiopians (this battle won by Moses was not in the Bible). But some in the threads have said Moses didn't even exist. They want to say Josephus was wrong about Moses but right about the census. But even if Josephus was right about the census, that doesn't mean Luke wasn't taking about another census, the one Sir William M. Ramsay talked about. We've already talked a lot about this, so I'm about done with this whole area. People complain about me repeating myself but then bring up the same topics so I have to repeat myself.
 
DOC said:
With Luke or with Josephus. We know Josephus was close to a Roman Emperor and most likely owed his life to the emperor. Josephus also lived in Rome. The motivation would certainly be there to make Christian writings look wrong since the Christians were causing so many problems for the empire.

Also Josephus says Moses was in Egypt and even won a battle for Egypt against the Ethiopians (this battle won by Moses was not in the Bible). But some in the threads have said Moses didn't even exist. They want to say Josephus was wrong about Moses but right about the census. But even if Josephus was right about the census, that doesn't mean Luke wasn't taking about another census, the one Sir William M. Ramsay talked about. We've already talked a lot about this, so I'm about done with this whole area. People complain about me repeating myself but then bring up the same topics so I have to repeat myself.
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That's nice DOC. Now, do you have any NEW evidence to present at all? Any?
 
DOC said:
So the Germans who killed the Jews in the Holocaust were acting reasonably because they honestly believed it was in the best interest of their country and thus themselves and their families to kill them?
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Wolrab said:
Okay, we got a Godwin. Close the thread.
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My question was obviously rhetorical, if you read the post I was responding to. This is why it is dangerous in here to use rhetorical questions because people can post it out of context. You should have also posted the quote I was responding to (in this case).
 
DOC said:
My question was obviously rhetorical, if you read the post I was responding to. This is why it is dangerous in here to use rhetorical questions because people can post it out of context. You should have also posted the quote I was responding to (in this case).
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So if Jesus was gay; would he support gay rights?
 
paximperium said:
That's nice DOC. Now, do you have any NEW evidence to present at all? Any?
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Maybe in the future, but since it is only me against so many skeptics I could probably take a month to respond to all the posts that have been directed at me. I wish I had the time, but I should get to some others. Unfortunately if I reread the thread, and respond to a post that I might have missed some people complain too much time has gone by. They are more concerned about the time that has gone by then my answer to the post.

But new info sometimes comes out when I respond to a post, an example of new important info coming out in this thread was one of Harvard Law School founders Simon Greenleaf's book on the strength of the NT evidence... Other evidence that has come out is that many archaeologists say that the {empty} tomb of Jesus is most likely under the Church of the Holy Sepluchre.
 
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DOC said:
But new info sometimes comes out when I respond to a post, for example one of Harvard Law School founders Simon Greenleaf's book on the strength of the NT evidence or the evidence that many archaeologists say that the {empty} tomb of Jesus is most likely under the Church of the Holy Sepluchre.
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New information, as in over 100 years old?

What exactly do you think "new" means?
 
joobz said:
If Jesus was a slave, would he still condoning beating slaves?
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Why are you putting this in here for the umpteenth time when a moderator specifically assigned another thread to this topic. That can be argued to be disrespectful to the viewers of this thread, not to mention hurting your image in the process.
 
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Hokulele said:
New information, as in over 100 years old?

What exactly do you think "new" means?
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It's new if you never read the Harvard Law School founder before. Remember what the "Wizzard of Westwood" John Wooden said, "the problem with new books is that people don't read the old ones".
 
DOC said:
Why are you putting this in here for the umpteenth time when a moderator specifically assigned another thread to this topic. That can be argued to be disrespectful to the viewers of this thread, not to mention hurting your image in the process.
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This is new to someone who is starting to read at this point in the thread.
 
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