Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

[Hokulele]

To be honest, I am amazed this thread hasn't been closed yet. After all, it has been many pages since DOC presented anything new.

 

[six7s]

To be honest, I am amazed this thread hasn't been closed yet. After all, it has been many pages since DOC presented anything new.

Where 'many' equals 162 (@ 40 posts per page)

 

[Akhenaten]

Only when they are based on valid premises, which is why Geisler's examples of circular reasoning are so pathetic.

*Cue Akhenaten's GIF*

I was really hoping for another Golgotha reference. That pic back on the last page of the Phantom outside the Skull Cave is fabulous.

Don't let me down Doc.

 

[paximperium]

Logical and philosophical arguments can be evidence:

Here is the first definition of evidence according to answers.com:

"A thing or things helpful in forming a conclusion or judgment"

A logical argument is a thing; and that logical argument can help me form a conclusion.

No. Logical arguments are based on premises. Premises are based on evidence.
This concludes that DOC has no evidence to support any of his premises hence massive logical fail.

 

[pakeha]

No. Logical arguments are based on premises. Premises are based on evidence.
This concludes that DOC has no evidence to support any of his premises hence massive logical fail.

So.
What important evidence has DOC been holding back?
Something that proves the NT writers were telling the truth?

 

[amb]

My 1100 posts in this thread are out there, if some people don't think the facts I have presented or the arguments I have made are decent then so be it. Even Christ could not convince everyone- that's why they nailed him to the cross. That should have been the end of the story, but here we are talking about it 2000 years later because of certain events that happened shortly after that crucifixion.

Yes. The idea of surviving death. A very big incentive indeed. The tales from a friend of a friend of my uncle Festus who met jesus after he was executed and he rose from death a couple of days later would make a people who thought that god was just beyond the sky and magic to be an every day event very gullible. All they needed to do was to convert to christanity and they too would experience everlasting life. I wish I had something so awesome to sell, I would be a millionaire.

 

[pakeha]

Right again, amb. The fear of death, woo's greatest sales pitch.

 

[Akhenaten]

As paximperium has shown earlier, that particular thread shows a pattern of posting behaviour on the part of DOC, one that led to the locking of the thread.
What is a mystery is why DOC continues in the same vein.
Old habits die hard?

I don't think we folk out here in the audience really count where the prosletysers are concerned.

It seems to me that they're only interested in scoring points with what they think is their god.

I have little doubt that Doc's constant references to "my sixty billion posts that are out there" aren't meant to impress us so much as they're meant to remind Doc's god that he's doing all these good works.

It's shallow and pathetic, but at least it's entertaining.

 

[pakeha]

When people make a post, I have a right to respond to it. If in my response the historical martyrdom of all but one apostle is a reasonable response to that post, I have the right to bring it up. And the historical martyrdom of 11 apostles is not a line it's history.

Wrong again, DOC.
Hagiography is hardly history.

When a thread goes this long obviously some things are going to be repeated but every so often some new important information comes out.

Well, how about it, DOC. Where's the new important information?

 

[six7s]

A logical argument is a thing; and that logical argument can help me form a conclusion.

If only wishes were horses, then beggars would ride

DOC, you have it all arse about face - jumping to a conclusion and then vainly trying to reverse engineer the evidence - any evidence - to fit

 

[Akhenaten]

Well Doc, you're always going on about how your dozen or so posts are out there for all to see and to speak for themselves.

Let's see what this one says, shall we?

This is what you originally typed in Post #6401

my bolding

So then you knew all about these men and facts before I brought them into the threads:

<redacted>

-archaeologist Sir William M. Mitchell and his opinion that gospel writer Luke was one of the world's greatest historians.

<redacted>

Pharaoh picked up this error, posting as follows:

original bolding

<redacted>

-archaeologist Sir William M. Mitchell and his opinion that gospel writer Luke was one of the world's greatest historians.

Who now? This guy?

William M. Mitchell
Director
Hemispherx Biopharma, Inc.
Philadelphia , PA
Sector: Healthcare/Biotechnology

74 Years Old

WILLIAM M. MITCHELL, M.D., Ph.D., 74, has been a Director since July 1998. Dr. Mitchell is a Professor of Pathology at Vanderbilt University School of Medicine. Dr. Mitchell earned a M.D. from Vanderbilt and a Ph.D. from Johns Hopkins University, where he served as an Intern in Internal Medicine

- Forbes Magazine
​

<redacted>

One now notes that Post #6401 reads as follows:

my bolding

So then you knew all about these men and facts before I brought them into the threads:

<redacted>

-archaeologist Sir William M. Ramsay and his opinion that gospel writer Luke was one of the world's greatest historians.

<redacted>

My query as to the original name you quoted remains unanswered and no reason was entered for the post having been edited.

What is one to think, Doc?

Were you perhaps hoping that your gaffe would be missed because of the dazzling artwork?



I remain undazzled, observant, and wondering how you now feel about all those posts being out there for everyone to see.


Waenre

Pharaoh

 

[Cactus Wren]

I have little doubt that Doc's constant references to "my sixty billion posts that are out there" aren't meant to impress us so much as they're meant to remind Doc's god that he's doing all these good works.

Prediction: any hour now DOC is going to demand a specific cite for the posting in which he referenced "sixty billion posts".

 

[Akhenaten]

I toned that down to " a dozen or so" in my last post. That should make up for my teensy, weensy, little, tiny bit of hyperbole.

 

[RoboTimbo]

Prediction: any hour now DOC is going to demand a specific cite for the posting in which he referenced "sixty billion posts".

I"d be happy to provide a specific cite for the posting where he says he's going to be providing new evidence. Sadly, I can't provide same for a post where there actually is any such evidence.

 

[pakeha]

Patience, RoboTimbo, patience.
Someone who brought us Greenleaf's introduction to a Bible Concordance as 'evidence' will surely bring something interesting to the thread.
Or repeat a 'classic' argument, probably gleaned from Josh's output.

 

[DOC]

A soul is considered a consiousness that exists beyond the physical body.
There is no evidence for a soul, human or otherwise.

I noticed you used the word considered, do you consider the soul a consciousness that exists beyond the body?

And if you do, what is your evidence?

 

[Marduk]

I noticed you used the word considered, do you consider the soul a consciousness that exists beyond the body?

And if you do, what is your evidence?

If anyone needed proof that Doc never reads beyond the first line of a post
there it is

 

[DOC]

Consiousness is a result of the physical body. We have direct evidence of this, as we can alter consiousness and personality by altering the brain, physically and chemically.

So then if your brain says slavery is evil like you have many times that is strictly because of chemical reactions in your brain. All someone would have to do is change the chemistry in your brain somehow and then it would be possible to make slavery no longer evil.

 

[paximperium]

I noticed you used the word considered, do you consider the soul a consciousness that exists beyond the body?

And if you do, what is your evidence?

So then if your brain says slavery is evil like you have many times that is strictly because of chemical reactions in your brain. All someone would have to do is change the chemistry in your brain somehow and then it would be possible to make slavery no longer be evil.

And how is this relevant to "Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth" or is this an infamous thread derail?

 

[paximperium]

Nah, DOC has gotten upset with joobz and me enough times to convince me that there is a real person behind the keyboard. Just a real person who prefers not to read any evidence against his cherished beliefs...

Would you like to reconsider your conclusion?
The brainlessness or his current post proves that he is a bot.