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Evidence for why we know the New Testament writers told the truth.

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DOC said:
Actually I believe I haven't mentioned this argument before:
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You have chosen wisely.


DOC said:
...the very existence of the largest religion in the world, Christianity, can be considered evidence because the very essence and most important element of Christianity is the Resurrection. It is almost impossible to plausibly explain why Christianity is even in existence without the Resurrection.
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You have chosen poorly.
 
Hokulele said:
The very existence of Scientology is evidence that Xenu exists.

You have been warned.
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Xenu allegedly threw all his enemies into Mokuaweoweo didn't he? You could just go up there and check for us and we could put that one to bed, I reckon.

Don't forget that we'll need some evidence of a complete lack of Thetans to back your story up, lest we have doubts about it.
 
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As noted earlier- from Wiki's article on the "List of Christian Martyrs"

* Saint Stephen, Protomartyr, was stoned c. 34 A.D.
* James the Great (Son of Zebedee) was beheaded in 44 A.D.
* Philip the Apostle was crucified in 54 A.D.
* Matthew the Evangelist killed with a halberd in 60 A.D.
* James the Just, beaten to death with a club after being crucified and stoned.
* Matthias was stoned and beheaded.
* Saint Andrew, St. Peter's brother, was crucified.
* Saint Mark was dragged in the streets until his death
* Saint Peter, crucified upside-down.
* Apostle Paul, beheaded in Rome.
* Saint Jude was crucified.
* Saint Bartholomew flayed alive and crucified.
* Thomas the Apostle was killed with a spear.
* Luke the Evangelist was hanged.
* Simon the Zealot was crucified in 74 A.D.

(Note: John the Evangelist according to legend was cooked in boiling hot oil but survived. He was the only one of the original twelve Apostles who was not martyred).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Christian_martyrs

Also the very existence of the largest religion in the world, Christianity, can be considered evidence because the very essence and most important element of Christianity is the Resurrection. It is almost impossible to explain why Christianity is even in existence without the Resurrection.
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The 4 Gospels answer all of these questions, but you don't believe them even though one of the Gospel writers, the physician Luke, has been called one of the world's greatest historians by Sir William M. Ramsay, who was a famous archaeologist and former skeptic.
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He's a bot, isn't he? Not a real person at all. Just a bot, and after a while he recycles the same damn lines again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...
 
DOC said:
Actually I believe I haven't mentioned this argument before:
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So your complaint isn't that I called your arguments false, but that I perhaps missed the subtlely new false argument you make?
 
DOC said:
As noted earlier- from Wiki's article on the "List of Christian Martyrs"

* Saint Stephen, Protomartyr, was stoned c. 34 A.D.
* James the Great (Son of Zebedee) was beheaded in 44 A.D.
* Philip the Apostle was crucified in 54 A.D.
* Matthew the Evangelist killed with a halberd in 60 A.D.
* James the Just, beaten to death with a club after being crucified and stoned.
* Matthias was stoned and beheaded.
* Saint Andrew, St. Peter's brother, was crucified.
* Saint Mark was dragged in the streets until his death
* Saint Peter, crucified upside-down.
* Apostle Paul, beheaded in Rome.
* Saint Jude was crucified.
* Saint Bartholomew flayed alive and crucified.
* Thomas the Apostle was killed with a spear.
* Luke the Evangelist was hanged.
* Simon the Zealot was crucified in 74 A.D.

(Note: John the Evangelist according to legend was cooked in boiling hot oil but survived. He was the only one of the original twelve Apostles who was not martyred).
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So it begs to ask, “Where did we go wrong”.

Paul

:) :) :)
 
Elizabeth I said:
He's a bot, isn't he? Not a real person at all. Just a bot, and after a while he recycles the same damn lines again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again and again...
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Sorry, missed that. Could you say it again please?


Anyway, our side has the kewlest pictures, so we win.


Nyaaaaah!


:)
 
That was interesting.
I think Her Majesty's Grace has it right: bot.
Or students with the same puter.

Still, there's no harm in posting up yet again for any new readers why neither the wiki list nor poor old sir William Ramsey has impressed anyone here.
Cristianity is real because the Resurrection is real
or
vice-versa.

I see DOC isn't even dissuaded by having sir William Ramsey's actual book on-line.

How are you on snake-handling, DOC?
 
Elizabeth I said:
He's a bot, isn't he? Not a real person at all. Just a bot, and after a while he recycles the same damn lines again and again and again...
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When people make a post, I have a right to respond to it. If in my response the historical martyrdom of all but one apostle is a reasonable response to that post, I have the right to bring it up. And the historical martyrdom of 11 apostles is not a line it's history.

Funny how none of you complained when slavery was brought up probably over a hundred times, and several times when it had nothing to do with a post. I figure I have about another 50 times to bring up the apostles martyrdom before it equals the amount of times slavery was mentioned.

When a thread goes this long obviously some things are going to be repeated but every so often some new important information comes out. If you can't deal things being repeated then block the thread. You implied that you wished this thread would go away maybe 30 pages ago. Why are you still here? Why haven't you blocked the thread? You've complained about my grammar, my spelling, my punctuation, my repeating things, but you still keep coming back? Why?
 
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DOC said:
When people make a post, I have a right to respond to it. If in my response the historical martyrdom of all but one apostle is a reasonable response to that post, I have the right to bring it up. And the historical martyrdom of 11 apostles is not a line it's history.

Funny how none of you complained when slavery was brought up probably over a hundred times, and several times when it had nothing to do with a post. I figure I have about another 50 times to bring up the apostles martyrdom before it equals the amount of times slavery was mentioned.

When a thread goes this long obviously some things are going to be repeated but every so often some new important information comes out. If you can't deal things being repeated then block the thread. You implied that you wished this thread would go away maybe 30 pages ago. Why are you still here? Why haven't you blocked the thread? You've complained about my grammar, my spelling, my punctuation, my repeating things, but you still keep coming back? Why?
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^^

Hissy fit.
 
joobz said:
So your complaint isn't that I called your arguments false, but that I perhaps missed the subtlely new false argument you make?
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OK- they are not false. Since you didn't explain why they are false, I won't explain why they are not false.
 
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Hokulele said:
^^

Kindergarten debate tactic.
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I'd be willing to bet that in the history of the world no kindergartner has ever said "since you didn't tell me why my argument was false I won't tell you why it is not false".
 
DOC said:
OK- they are not false. Since you didn't explain why they are false, I won't explain why they are not false.
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yes they are. Appeal to popularity is a superficially childish argument.

If everyone jumped off a bridge, would you to?
 
DOC said:
Also the very existence of the largest religion in the world, Christianity, can be considered evidence because the very essence and most important element of Christianity is the Resurrection. It is almost impossible to explain why Christianity is even in existence without the Resurrection.
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Hokulele said:
The very existence of Scientology is evidence that Xenu exists.

You have been warned.
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Have any well known historians like Josephus, Tacitus, and Seutonius, wrote of Xenu as being an actual historical person. And have any teachings of Xenu been gathered and pasted in a book devoted solely to those teachings by someone like Thomas Jefferson.
 
DOC said:
Have any well known historians like Josephus, Tacitus, and Seutonius, wrote of Xenu as being an actual historical person. And have any teachings of Xenu been gathered and pasted in a book devoted solely to those teachings by someone like Thomas Jefferson.
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No, why?
 
DOC said:
Have any well known historians like Josephus, Tacitus, and Seutonius, wrote of Xenu as being an actual historical person. And have any teachings of Xenu been gathered and pasted in a book devoted solely to those teachings by someone like Thomas Jefferson.
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Does Christianity have anyone as cool as John Travolta and Tom Cruise supporting it?
 
DOC said:
Have any well known historians like Josephus, Tacitus, and Seutonius, wrote of Xenu as being an actual historical person. And have any teachings of Xenu been gathered and pasted in a book devoted solely to those teachings by someone like Thomas Jefferson.
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that wouldn't be the same Thomas Jefferson who equated the bible to a pile of crap, would it?
 
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