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NASA Engineer (ret.) is a Twoofie?

Deats appears to be a legitimate NASA scientist
http://www.nasa.gov/centers/dryden/news/NewsReleases/1996/96-10.html
Interestingly, he claims to be interested in 'skeptics'. He has written book reviews on Amazon for books about Mormonism and the oil crises. http://www.amazon.com/gp/pdp/profile/A2RB173QIIOM0L/ref=cm_cr_rdp_pdp
Apparently he was editor-in-chief of Secular Nation magazine

Here's an interview with him, but I haven't been able to listen to the whole thing, yet.
http://sdmegacoalition.blogspot.com/2009/09/progress-in-san-diego-interview-with.html

But in answer to my question above, he does seem to drop out of sky into the Truther world.

Despite his high-powered credentials, he doesn't appear to be adding new info to the Truther argument. It's possible all he can do for them is add one more name to their patetically slim roster.

Red Ibis, what do you think this means if all he does is reproduce the arguments that have satisfied no one here and been unable to attract any members in significant number to the 911 Truth movment?
 
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RedIbis said:
If you have info that he is a Holocaust denier, wife beater, or lizard worhipper, please post it here so this guy can be debunked once and for all.
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I don't know if if any of the above are true about this guy, but considering this:
Dwain Deets, will speak on behalf of more than 900 architects and engineers who cite evidence of explosive demolition at all three World Trade Center high-rises on 9/11
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he's clearly deranged.

Unless of course NASA has some kind of secret training program that explains how three skyscrapers can be brought down with explosives in front of thousands of people without anyone seeming to notice.
 
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deep said:
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You mean a peer-reviewed paper, right? Isn't that the gold standard?
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Peer-review is a crucial step in accademic publication, yes (which is why truthers are so terrified of it).

But for now I just want to know what this NASA guy has to say, so feel free to show us any ol' paper he has written.

Heck, a slide show will do, or a few quotes.

Let's get an idea as to which tenets of truther gospal he subscribes to.

Pull it? Free fall? Silent nanothermite bombs? Pyroclastic clouds?

Do tell.
 
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RedIbis said:
Clearly this guy, Dwain Deets is just a glorified keyboard jockey who has no background and knowledge in relevant fields. Would it also be fair to say that he was among the founders of the unmanned flight program?

http://www.911blogger.com/node/21627



If you have info that he is a Holocaust denier, wife beater, or lizard worhipper, please post it here so this guy can be debunked once and for all.
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I recall the old saying.... I dont care what you believe I only care WHY you believe it.
 
RedIbis said:
Clearly this guy, Dwain Deets is just a glorified keyboard jockey who has no background and knowledge in relevant fields. Would it also be fair to say that he was among the founders of the unmanned flight program?

http://www.911blogger.com/node/21627



If you have info that he is a Holocaust denier, wife beater, or lizard worhipper, please post it here so this guy can be debunked once and for all.
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nice indirect argument from authority.

Anywho, given I can see this ending up being about Mackey at some point, let me just say, that while the fact that he is a NASA engineer means he has the training to understand many of the complexities involved in some areas of 9/11, it does not make him right, or even close, SIMPLY based on what he does for a living.

So what has this guy said, and more importantly, what science has he used, and displayed for people, to back it up?

By the way, I consider S. Jones a ****** scientist not because he believes Jesus visited the North America, but because the man took several attempts simply to put his work into a form that a highschool student would consider acceptable. This is inexcusable.

TAM:)
 
deep said:
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You mean a peer-reviewed paper, right? Isn't that the gold standard?
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It's the gold standard, but for this guy I'd accept anything written by him. At this point we have no idea what his claims are, other than being a member of Gage's little wankfest.
 
Wow I'm just listening to his interview and I'm amazed if he is a legitimate scientist.

He is just trotting out all the same bullcrap we have seen before, what promoted me to write this post is he even says that the 911 Commission didnt even write one sentence on WTC7. Obviously a David Ray Griffin claim*.

*(for the slim chance people dont know) It was false, ie. They did mention Building 7 but they didnt investigate it since it wasnt a terrorist target and FEMA had already addressed it 7 months earlier in their building performance study.



I'd love to see him come here and debate Mackey or something, heck even I could debate someone like him.
 
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Gee, if your going to using appeal to authority and indirectly mind you , here you go, David Scott, chairman of the Council on Tall Buildings and Urban Habitat, says:
I am well connected to most of the leading practitioners of tall building design. The Council represents organizations with well more than 100,000 employees. I do not know anyone or organization in the Council that supports the controlled demolition theory. The ASCE has an engineering membership of 120,000 and they participated in the production of the NIST report.
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http://www.skyscrapercity.com/showthread.php?t=697314&page=2

So I see your one NASA scientist and raise you 220,000.
 
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Edx said:
Wow I'm just listening to his interview and I'm amazed if he is a legitimate scientist.

He is just trotting out all the same bullcrap we have seen before, what promoted me to write this post is he even says that the 911 Commission didnt even write one sentence on WTC7.
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Wow, so he's every bit the heavy hitter we all feared he was. :rolleyes:

This scientist brings nothing to the table except the same mindless crapola spouted by teenage boys at truther "street actions."

An amazing find as always, Red.
 
He even says that normal everyday thermite is an explosive or an incendiary. He is just talking about the usual kind here, not even nano thermite. Since when has thermite been an explosive?

Just what is this guy supposed to be qualified in?
 
RedIbis said:
Clearly this guy, Dwain Deets is just a glorified keyboard jockey who has no background and knowledge in relevant fields. Would it also be fair to say that he was among the founders of the unmanned flight program?

http://www.911blogger.com/node/21627



If you have info that he is a Holocaust denier, wife beater, or lizard worhipper, please post it here so this guy can be debunked once and for all.
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"Deets presented an abridged version of Richard Gage's "9/11 Blueprint for Truth: The Architecture of Destruction." The video demonstrates side-by-side examples of controlled demolitions of skyscrapers versus actual video footage of the collapse of the World Trade Centers."

Well, again probably not a holocaust denier or wife beater, but he does seem to be deaf, huh, Red?

You know, how Gage's big failure (well one of them anyway) is how he relies upon Hush-A-Boom brand explosions? And how Gage's Blueprint for truth is such a huge ****ing lie because it intentionally omits the AUDIO.

I'll let the other JREF'ers make the reasonable and sane responses, I just got to go with my gut: the guy is whore selling out his credentials to frauds.

BOOM GOES THE DYNAMITE!
 
retarded engineer is a twoofie?

So is thats it dirty bird? your "Nyah nyah nyah" for the day consists of an argument from false authority from a guy who brought forth no calculations, nor papers, but just mouths the same debunked gage talking points?
 
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He even says that normal everyday thermite is an explosive or an incendiary. He is just talking about the usual kind here, not even nano thermite.
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Amazing. He's an AE911 moron and several years behind the latest truther talking points to boot.

I haven't been this unimpressed by a "truth" revelation since Charlie Sheen scored those 20 minutes with Obama.
 
It will be interesting to read more about this guy's reasons for his beliefs. But so far it looks like he's just regurgitating the standard 9/11 CT nonsense.

One thing Red is either unwilling or incapable of understanding is a litter box of steaming **** is still a a litter box of steaming ****, regardless of how many people or what credentials they have, say it's a neat stack of gold coins.
 
Astronaut.
Diaper.
Revenge Road Trip.


Not everybody working for NASA has a full deck of cards.
 
I've just listened to his interview here
http://sdmegacoalition.blogspot.com/2009/09/progress-in-san-diego-interview-with.html
He has nothing new to say. It's the same old Richard Gage stuff we've heard all the time. In fact, he's a thermite-guy. Around 18:33, he blathers on about nano-thermite and Jones' research.
"And that shows by science and an internationally peer-reviewed study team and publication that this very advanced nano-thermite...was present in very large quantities throughtout those two towers....it can be sprayed on...so there's some possibility it was sprayed on"

I have to ask you Truth fellows here, why would this be significant to you if his critique adds nothing to the argument that has failed miserably so far? He doesn't come across as very bright. I wonder if he's open for a debate. He may really believe he's saying something new.
 
Comrade Raptor said:
Astronaut.
Diaper.
Revenge Road Trip.


Not everybody working for NASA has a full deck of cards.
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Former Apollo astronaut Jim Irwin made 6 trips to Turkey looking for Noah's Ark. I suppose that's enough proof for RedIbis that Noah's Ark is somewhere in Turkey.
 
RedIbis said:
Of course. Just because someone is a NASA scientist does not mean his word should be taken as gospel.
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Who has ever said that because a person works for NASA, they automatically should have their word taken as gospel? Other than you, that is.

Oh, I get it, you don't like Ryan Mackey, and you are calling him a liar. So, that must mean that those of us who respect his technical knowledge are fools, right? Wow, you sure are the clever one. Ouch.

You see Red, unlike you, the majority of people here choose to judge people on their indvidual merits, sincerity, and honesty. We don't like to paint everyone with a wide, generalized brush. You do realize that pre-judging a person based on broad generalizations and no actual personal knowledge, is why they invented the word "prejudice", right? I'm just asking questions.

L.
 
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On a related note, I see this guy has been giving lectures on college campuses. My question is: Why? Is the Truth Movement in danger of running out of angry 19 year-olds? It seems to me a legitimate scientist giving legitimate scientific lectures would do so within the legitimate scientific community.

So we can we expect to see this guy at an ASCE symposium?
 
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