Continuation - NSA Document Flight 93 intercepted coming soon

newton3376 said:
So how does a FOIA request work? Can you just request any UNCLASS info?

I would assume you cant request stuff that involves material that is "sensitive"...... like personal information....

What exactly can you request through FOIA?
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Pretty much you can request ANY information that you can ask about.

Now that doesn't mean you will be given completely untouched documents. If they are sensitive documents you will get redacted/censored documents.

Now they only work for government agencies (one of my favorite quotes from a twoof was about how they were going to send an FOIA to RJLee. I had a great chuckle about that one).

The other issue is that often unless you are VERY specific in what you want to know, you will get documents that you were not after, or are not what you were looking for.

And as has been pointed out, it often takes 6 months to a year to get any documents from FOIA requests.
 
Which seems amazing to me. In the UK you get 20 days. Any longer and you're in breach of the FOIA. Of course, sometimes it takes longer and you just have to live with that, but 20 (working) days is the target.
 
IIRC the respondent did reply within 20 days that material pertinent to the request was found. It is clearance by other interested agencies that is the sticking point. If there are 100 persons who have an interest and must approve the release that makes 2000 days at 20 days apiece.:)
 
Klimax said:
It is time to bump this... :D
(Yes,I am badass,but I think we can keep it.)
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Oh, aren't you clever! This will annoy someone, bravo! ;)

We all need our fun, but truly This is the only critic we need to be talking about here. Do note the WTC towers in opening shot. Clearly some foreknowledge there.
 
Grrrr.....

isn't this an Ultima thread? Wasn't he banned? Do we ever hope to get updates with him banned?

Grrr....

TAM:)
 
SpitfireIX said:
Could someone please give a brief recap of what this is about; I wasn't reading the forum regularly for several months earlier this year.
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OK. A clown joins the JREF forum and claims to work as an NSA analyst (emphasis on the anal). He claims that he has seen a CRITIC that proves flight 93 was shot down. He claims the very same CRITIC does not say that 93 was shot down.

People confront the clown with his very own words. The clown continues to make blatantly contradictory claims. The clown is shown to be a security guard at the NSA yet continues to claim to be an analyst. He gets called out several times and tries to wiggle his way out of his own words.

He filed a FOI request (as does 16.5) for the CRITIC message. He reads way too much into the reply (along the lines of : we have received your request and will send whatever...) and makes all sorts of ridiculous assertions with no basis in reality. Since he is so much cleverer (dare I say the clevererest?) than anybody here, he continuously claims PWNAGE.

He still couldn't answer questions that should have been easily answered by a NSA analyst, but he demonstrates he can find secret spy stuff available on google and expects everyone to accept his credentials. He can't even show up at a specific flagpole at high noon to prove he is what he claims. His posts degenerate to the point where he is banned.

16.5 will post whatever comes of the FOI when it becomes available.

He liked capital letters as they always add credibility to every argument.

He nit picked irrelevant details and was usually shown to be wrong.

I believe that is the gist of the ultima 1 experience.
 
Bump for 16.5

And 'cause it's kinda slow in the 9/11 subforum.
 
Ohhh, that reminds me - Zombieland comes out this weekend.
 
Mr.D said:
Bump for 16.5

And 'cause it's kinda slow in the 9/11 subforum.
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Well, I called them in June and they told me that they had not sent out the referrals to the other agencies, but would do so shortly.

So I called them last month, and THEY HAD STILL NOT SENT OUT THE REFERRALS. They claimed that they were going to do that on the very afternoon. I told them I was not happy with the delay, and was even less happy that the FOIA was going to smack on the bottom of someone else's pile. They assured that they were real bird dogs when it came to following up referrals, and the irony of the fact that they completely dropped the ball in getting a supervisor to sign off on the referral for six months completely escaped them.

So November? Unlikely.
 
Err....what happened to 20 working days for FOIA requests?

Appeal!
 
They probably think you're a friend of that crazy security guard downstairs, and they're just humoring you in hopes that you'll eventually give up.
 
Sheesh,

Imagine how long it must have taken to do all the paperwork for the 9/11 inside job.

Probably took months just to file the requests for permission to requisition the transportation for the equipment required to build the barracks on the training grounds for the personnel who supervised the training of the guys who planted the explosives.
 
If only there was an insider at the NSA that has seen these papers.....hehehe
 
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