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The Freeman Movement and England

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Especially said:
No statute is lawful unless/until it is consented to.

That's easy.
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NO statute?

Can I refuse to consent to the statute that makes it illegal for me to come round your house and piss on your sofa? Can I, in other words, come round your house and piss on your sofa?

Expalin to me again why you'd consent to any taxation statute placed upon you by the Jesuit Evil Masonic Death Cult of the NWO?
 
Especially said:
That's my business, and you have your own.
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Might we well assume, then, that everything you've said about "consent of the governed" has never, ever worked to save someone from paying tax? Including yourself?
 
volatile said:
NO statute?

Can I refuse to consent to the statute that makes it illegal for me to come round your house and piss on your sofa? Can I, in other words, come round your house and piss on your sofa?

Expalin to me again why you'd consent to any taxation statute placed upon you by the Jesuit Evil Masonic Death Cult of the NWO?
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No, because I do not consent to it. And if you force your way you are against the law.

Simple.

By the way, please do not use dirty things here. This is a clean conversation and you must try to grow up. Fast. Be a responsible adult. Set a good example. Thank You.
 
Especially said:
I pay what is lawful for me to pay. I pay all kinds of taxes. But others I refuse because I do not CONSENT to them. I am a sovereign human being who knows the law. And who abides by it. Each case is judged by me. And those I consent to I pay. Those I do not I decline.
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I do the same. I refuse to pay taxes to the UK, Australia will never get a dime from me. I defy the tax laws of France and the whole of the Europe.
 
Especially said:
No, because I do not consent to it.
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Why would YOU need to consent to it? The statute makes it illegal for ME to piss on your sofa. It has nothing to do with you, legally. I DO NOT CONSENT to the law (sorry, statute) that impedes me pissing on your sofa.

So, I'm coming over. Don't bother putting the kettle on, I'll have a brew before I leave so I'm good and ready when I get to your house.

This FMOTL stuff is fun! Thanks for telling me about it!

And if you force your way you are against the law.
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I don't consent to that law. Statutes do not count on those who refuse to consent to them. Shame for you, and your clean sofa.
 
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Audible Click said:
Are you? We've yet to see any cites of court cases that prove any of the points you've been trying to make. All of your verbal jujitsu doesn't mean a thing without proper evidence.
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Although Especially's arguments look superficially like verbal jujitsu, I don't think the aim of jujitsu is to punch yourself in the face.
 
volatile said:
Why would YOU need to consent to it? The statute makes it illegal for ME to piss on your sofa. It has nothing to do with you, legally. I DO NOT CONSENT to the law (sorry, statute) that impedes me pissing on your sofa.

So, I'm coming over. Don't bother putting the kettle on, I'll have a brew before I leave so I'm good and ready when I get to your house.

This FMOTL stuff is fun! Thanks for telling me about it!

I don't consent to that law. Statutes do not count on those who refuse to consent to them. Shame for you, and your clean sofa.
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I would not consent to it because it is illegal. Under the law of England. It does not require a statute to tell me it's illegal. I already know the law of England. And so should you.

No more silliness, please !
 
Mashuna said:
Although Especially's arguments look superficially like verbal jujitsu, I don't think the aim of jujitsu is to punch yourself in the face.
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I'm sure he thinks he's in a heck of a fight with somebody.

His tax-paying self and his FOTL self really need to come to an agreement.
 
Lothian said:
Especially pays his taxes,
Especially pays his taxes,
Especially pays his taxes,
Especially pays his taxes.
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Yes, I pay all taxes I personally consent to. I pay none without my consent. Because Statutes have the power of law only with my consent and not without it.

Lothian has got it right !
 
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Especially said:
I would not consent to it because it is illegal.
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Show me the law that tells me I cannot piss on your sofa - and explain to me why your consent has anything to do with what I consent to! I'm a free man! FREE!

Show me the law.

Show me the law, and explain to me what would happen if I ignored it and pissed on your sofa anyway. I do not consent to the NWO admiralty courts arresting me! Who will stop me pissing on your sofa?
 
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You, sir, do not have the courage of your convictions. You are afraid to admit what taxes you decline to pay.
 
Audible Click said:
You, sir, do not have the courage of your convictions. You are afraid to admit what taxes you decline to pay.
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You, Sir, have no right to know my business and I have none to know yours. Since we are both sovereign human beings. Under the law. Besides, it's bad manners and you are a complete stranger to me.
 
Also, can you make it quick. I'm kinda.... bursting here. :o And if there isn't a law, I wouldn't want to waste the litre of Red Bull I just drunk.
 
tsig said:
Now that he has committed himself to not replying he will have to hold his fire no matter what is said. The perfect trap for someone who likes to read his own words.(insert mad laugh here):D
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I don't know. After saying he wouldn't talk to you again he started a new conversation saying "Have a nice day". Thereby consenting to correspond again.
 
volatile said:
Also, can you make it quick. I'm kinda.... bursting here. :o And if there isn't a law, I wouldn't want to waste the litre of Red Bull I just drunk.
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Please don't post to me any more. I will not answer you. Your dirty language offends me. I exercise my right not to reply to your posts.
 
Lothian said:
I don't know. After saying he wouldn't talk to you again he started a new conversation saying "Have a nice day". Thereby consenting to correspond again.
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Saying 'Have a nice day' is consent to correspond ?

And where did you get that consent from me, Lothian ? Where did I get it from you ? Since neither of us have said such a thing to the other.

Quick !

(Commercial Break)

Rustling of papers

Nervous laughter

Cornflakes Ad

etc.
 
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Especially said:
Please don't post to me any more. I will not answer you. Your dirty language offends me. I exercise my right not to reply to your posts.
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Show me the law.

Please.

(Would you prefer if I said "pee"?)
 
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