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The Freeman Movement and England

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Spoken like a person who is not only out of their depth but has finally realised it :)
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Nah, since I'm under Admiralty Law I must be out to sea.

So far you have provided no proof whatsoever of your assertions.
There's no evidence you practice what you preach.
 
RHolmes said:
Incidentally, a few pages back, D'rok dealt rather well with the issue of consent. (He was quite brusque though - tut.)
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You mean brusque like the Goldberg Variations, don't you? ;)
 
Lothian said:
Thank you.

I presume that you are not trying to get people imprisoned. What is your point?

A freebie for you. Us Brit's don't call the council tax the community charge. The community charge was known as the Poll tax. You might want to look it up.
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On the contrary, we are all imprisoned but hardly know it. This is just one example. And people are getting back their own sovereignty.

Thank you for your 'freebie'. I was hoping you would offer me some more of that wonderful Bach !

The Community Charge certainly was known as the Poll Tax. You are right. And the first world war was the 'war to end all wars'. And, unless I am mistaken, the sovereignty of this nation transumuted into a sovereign who costs millions a year and who nobody ever elected. But they still believe it. And they believe Parliaments make laws. All these things are said to be true.

Such are the semantics of deception.
 
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A 'real' court of law ?

You are of course refering to the court of Admiralty Law (commercial law) ? But I am refering to the court of the law of England.

So you see who is deceived and who is not.
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Which court which only applies the "law of England" (your words, not mine) would that be?

Norm
 
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Eh? Sorry, you've gone a bit high-concept for me. I'm simple and brainwashed, remember? You'll have to spell it out for me. Assume I do everything you say I need to do in order to be considered under the Law of England. What happens if the judge locks me up anyway? I mean - he's corrupt and Jesuit and evil, right? So, utterly, what's the point of this form of words which, unless you think they literally have magic powers, won't ever achieve what you think they will?

Do you think the words have magic power?
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Apparently all you have to do is say "I'm not in the S. U."

Let us know how that works out for you. And no, the JREF does not have a prison outreach ministry so calling on the Mods is futile.

But you can still blame Lisa.
 
tsig said:
Nah, since I'm under Admiralty Law I must be out to sea.

So far you have provided no proof whatsoever of your assertions.
There's no evidence you practice what you preach.
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None you have seen, for sure. But you must practice it yourself to know that it is completely correct. I cannot make you see what is already as clear as daylight.
 
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I fear I already have. And, anyway, if you do not know ABC how will you know XYZ ?

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How can we know unless we are told and who should tell us but you who have all this knowledge?
 
tsig said:
How can we know unless we are told and who should tell us but you who have all this knowledge?
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The international laws of commerce are truly international. Did you not know this ? Perhaps we can make another thread on it ?
 
tsig said:
Apparently all you have to do is say "I'm not in the S. U."

Let us know how that works out for you. And no, the JREF does not have a prison outreach ministry so calling on the Mods is futile.

But you can still blame Lisa.
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Prison outreach ministries that reach as far as your attitude are highly valuable things, for sure ! :)
 
volatile said:
"'Doing unto others as we would have done unto ourselves', but don't pay taxes, ever. Does that sound like it has a moral quandry in there somewhere?
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Considering that he's quoting Jesus, I would have thought "render unto Caesar" would have been a valid reason to pay tax.
 
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None you have seen, for sure. But you must practice it yourself to know that it is completely correct. I cannot make you see what is already as clear as daylight.
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No, No, you first. I must insist. You are the one saying it will work yet those who say it won't must prove your point?

Sounds like you lack the courage of your convictions.
 
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The international laws of commerce are truly international. Did you not know this ? Perhaps we can make another thread on it ?
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Are you now suggesting that import tariffs, export subsidies, trade agreements and contracts are identical in all international trade? That some countries do not protect vulnerable industries through taxing imports? That some countries do not subsidise exports through their (according to you) illegal tax laws? I'd like to see evidence of that.

Keep digging that hole.

Norm
 
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The international laws of commerce are truly international.
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And Bluebirds are blue.

Still with the assertions. Proof of any kind would be nice.

Proof= any instance where adhering to FOTL doctrines has allowed anyone to ignore taxes. Ever.
 
fromdownunder said:
Are you now suggesting that import tariffs, export subsidies, trade agreements and contracts are identical in all international trade? That some countries do not protect vulnerable industries through taxing imports? That some countries do not subsidise exports through their (according to you) illegal tax laws? I'd like to see evidence of that.

Keep digging that hole.

Norm
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I am saying (as you surely know) there is an International Code for Commerce.

But make another thread and we can discuss this if you like. If no such code existed there could be no international commerce. And it exists in maritime and non-maritime nations.
 
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