9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Simon39759]

Headscratcher et al:

There is certainly no justification for whatever it is that Hitlers Nazis did to the Jews, the mentally ill, the gypsys, or any other group that they targeted during their short time in power. Whether they gassed 6 million as the bevy of self claimed experts who seem to live full time on this thread insist, or if they illegally placed ANYONE into forcred labor camps where they died en masse of typhus or starvation as the so called "deniers" claim, there is no excuse for their outrageous and cruel behavior. I am NOT a neo-Nazi, or a supporter of the '30s-'40s German war machine. I never have been a fan or apologist for any cruel imperialistic racist regime. There certainly was no excuse for what the Bolcheviks did to the once heavily Christian nation of Russia either, or their systematic murder of the 50+ million in their reign of terror. They wiped out Christianity in what was once the most Christian nation in the world in 20 years, and as you pointed out a large number of Jewish peasants. What the hell was up with that? I believe that there is factual proof that both of these murderous regimes were bankrolled and supported by the same NY-London-Vatican Banking houses who devised these two murderous regimes for their own profit and power based motives. (wars & the huge usary profits to be made and control of the seats of governmental power throughout Europe) Those pulling the strings in this obvious conspiracy hide behind so called organized Judaism (Rothschilds, Warburgs, Morgans et al, , WASP Protestantism (like the Brit & Dutch Royals) and Catholicism the biggest bilkers, liars, molesters & theives in the world, the Vatican wing...Personally I think all these so called major religions are just huge fronts for the banksters and have NO merit whatsoever...I hope that soon all this religious BS will be exposed for what it is and always has been, and I believe it soon will. Again, I am not a hater of any of the hapless dupes who are indoctrinated into any of these frauds and are too dumb to see through them, be they Jews, Catholics, or Wasps. I am against the perps, not the dupes...Your assesment of who I am is a total delusion. I really like people & try to wake them up...

What is extremely curious is the fact that this is a so called conspiracy thread (I came here because I believe that most world politics, economics, and military actions of the last 300 years are a result of conspiratorial behavior by a small elite group) and on this thread there are several full time so called "debunkers", and hardly any fellow CTs...Seems strange....where do all you self professed experts come from? It has been my experience that there are no debunkers in real life. I have been a CT for years and have NEVER met a debunker in person. Then on the net where they can remain faceless and nameless they crawl out of the woodwork. Are you guys part of some organized movement? Doesn't add up to me...Where are the conspiracy theorists? Cheers

So; you are just an equal opportunity conspiracy theorist?
Marginally better I guess.

The anti-semitic whiff would then be due to your indiscriminate incorporation of various CTs including some right-wingish ones...
Still better than the other way around, starting as a bigot and being drawn to the CT medium in order to justify ones racism and anti-Semitism...

 

[jmh423]

Simon

I am far from what anyone would consider "Right Wing"...I believe the whole Left-Right paradigm is a hoax with the same power behind both. For example Hitler is the poster boy for "right wing" lunacy, and Stalin for "leftist" radicalism.....They are both the same...Power hungry murdering lunitics totally against personal freedom and in favor of ever more power for the state...In the latest US elections, the only two intelligent choices were obviously Ron Paul, Mr. Right, and Dennis Kucinich, Mr. Left....The rest were all just a pack of babbling, lying whores working for the same crew, (including the guy that won....Obama is an obvious plant)...The Federal Reserve and the international coeterie of Banksters who are now finally losing their death grip on the US and the world at large no thanks to our traitorous "leaders" or the bad joke known as the US media...You think you are pretty clever and obviously have read a lot of "peer reviewed" books that have the stamp of approval from the Carnegie Mellon Fund and various Royal Institutes of advanced studies of......Pick a topic...You guys can make all the arrogant condecending comments and false accusations you wish towards me...It doesn't even phase me in the least...I have observed first hand what has been happening here in the US for over 55years now...And read all the same crap you spew from all your highly accredited sources also...Hopefully you, and the rest of the pseudo intellectual know it alls here will be given a large dose of what the truth of the revisionist comedy that you believe is History really is...Believe me, it isn't what you think... The first election I recall was '64...I was 10 years old and was for Barry Goldwater even though my whole family were big democrats....The non whore "Right winger"...The softer gentler "left winger" Johnson won by a landslide and sold our country out for the Brown & Root (Haliburton) Texas money and murdered 58000 US soldiers and 3 million Viet Namese & Cambodians....The next time '68 I was for Gene McCarthy and then Bobby Kennedy...Why did I know by the time I was 14 that the whole Left-Right thing is a scam, and yet all you pompous "scholars" still haven't figured that one out? A wise man once said something like this:"A person who doesn't know how to read knows more than one who reads newspapers and believes what's printed there"...Most of the crap you learned has seeped into your brain and left you with a major handicap mate. Garbage in garbage out. Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Cheers

 

[Simon39759]

Let me know if there is anything I can do to help. Cheers

Mastering the "hard return" maybe?

 

[jmh423]

UnlovedRebel.....Oh you must be a real firebrand!! What phony monikers do you post under on the Youtube threads? SharkSkank2055 by any chance? I'ts always nice to recieve a smarmy backhanded comment and false assertion from one of the mentally challenged phonies in the cheap seats...Thank you...I don't stand by either of those theories you posted and lied about me advocating...My position is and always has been that any number of the theories put forth by independent researchers are one hell of a lot more plauseable than the ridiculous pile of crap spewed out by the US media and the lying Bush administration. One would seriously have to be a super dupe to buy that fairytale...Thanks for checking in sweetie..

 

[jmh423]

Simon-Timing and topspin....Simple

 

[Slayhamlet]

Sorry, but there never was such a person "Jack Bernstein." His writings were faked by white supremacist Len Martin. I'm afraid you are not very critical of your sources. There is no source of information for "Bernstein" having been bumped off by the Mossad apart from Martin himself, nor is there any source outside of Martin to even verify his existence. And the writing is so obviously a crude and embarrassing fake that not even the hardcore anti-semites and anti-Zionists take it seriously, which is why it has almost zero play on the viral web. I'm afraid there is little point in taking you seriously now that you have revealed that your source of information is basically the most ludicrous online fringe material that you can possibly find through google. Even Stormfront is a better source than this.

- woolfe

Haha, oh man. I was wondering why I couldn't find a damn thing on the Internet about the guy outside of anti-Semitic websites, all of which provided exactly zero sources for their claim that he was knocked off by Mossad. That's what really pegged my BS meter. It all sounded a little too contrived, but I figured he might have been an actual Israeli who'd lost a few marbles and perhaps died under "suspicious" (read: perfectly logical) circumstances, thus allowing the morons to concoct an utterly ridiculous Mossad conspiracy theory to explain his death. I wasn't expecting the guy to be a complete phony, which teaches me something, I guess.

These people are extraordinarily sad.

 

[jmh423]

Trojan Posted:"Its been my experience that the conspirators only exist behind closed doors. I've meet on 911 truther so far in real life, and he was dumb as a stump on any specifics."

It's been your experience that the "conspirators" only live behind closed doors....hmmm

You've met on 911 truther so far in real life and HE was dumb as a stump on any specifics...

Did you by any chance graduate from USC? Your writing skills resemble OJ Simpsons..

.WOW, this guy is real sharp!! Look out!!

Dumb as a stump??? You bet...Thanks Trojan Boy...Check in anytime...Fight On!!

 

[lionking]

jhm423 is a YouTube truther spam warrior. He spams the most ridiculous of truther claims, like Balsamo's failed 11.2 G physics and Jones's fraudulent "peer-reviewed" paper. It's best for everyone if you just let the troll starve.

Very true, but you must admit that someone who trumps 9/11 Investigator on the woo scale makes for compelling reading.

 

[Simon39759]

jmh is a woo but 9/11 is a vicious virulent poodle of boiling acidic hatred. I could hug jmh just for not being 9/11...

 

[jmh423]

Woolfe Posted:"Sorry, but there never was such a person "Jack Bernstein." His writings were faked by white supremacist Len Martin. I'm afraid you are not very critical of your sources. There is no source of information for "Bernstein" having been bumped off by the Mossad apart from Martin himself, nor is there any source outside of Martin to even verify his existence."

You may be right regarding Bernstein, but I can find NO verification that what you are asserting is true either...Your sources seem a bit dubious also...All I could find was a post from some annonymous poster stating the exact thing you did on some thread...I can find out for sure if this person did in fact exist through legit channels which I will post upon finding, either way. If you are indeed right, thanks for the info.....But, what if Mr Bernstein did in fact exist, and these were his true observations of Israel? He got a book published in '85 (A short one I must admit)...Would you admit that you are just slingin it in this case and apologize like a gentleman? Or would you come out with the old standby, the ever hilarious "self hating Jew" gag, I love that one especially when shouted by some loudmouth from the Bronx.... We'll see...I can find NOTHING credible regarding "White Supremicist Len Martin"...You got anything on this guy? Cheers

 

[apathoid]

A bit late to the party here.... but don't most Holocaust deniers just quibble over the actual figures of the dead? Here, 9/11 Investigator denies that a single Jew was slain by the Nazis?! Do I have that right? That takes a special kind of delusion and it makes me wonder "if people like this are free to walk the streets, who is inhabiting the mental institutions?" Scary thought. Seek help, 911 Investigator.

 

[jmh423]

Mystery solved regarding the small number of Conspiracy Theorists on a conspiracy site...Now I see why there are so many true believers, and "government loyalists" here on this site....This guy JR is a shill for the vaccine companies, the W.H.O., and probably is a big advocate of the benevolent Federal Reserve system...Thermirosol for your children's health....Is there any flouridation advocacy groups here? I'm very interested in seeing if we can get a larger dose of that in our water supply here in So Cal....You guys are a pack of Tavistockers.....Am I right? Up with the WHO!!! Dr Randi is trying to save the world from these silly paranormal scam artists that are against genetically modified foods, which are as wholesome as the food your granfather grew in his garden...Is Donald Rumsfeld a member? Where do I click to donate??? LOL.....I really love these guys!! Thanks for being here fellas...I'm going to go right down to Walmart now and get my H1N1 Tamiflu Shot for only $19.95....

 

[apathoid]

Mystery solved regarding the small number of Conspiracy Theorists on a conspiracy site...Now I see why there are so many true believers, and "government loyalists" here on this site....This guy JR is a shill for the vaccine companies, the W.H.O., and probably is a big advocate of the benevolent Federal Reserve system...Thermirosol for your children's health....Is there any flouridation advocacy groups here? I'm very interested in seeing if we can get a larger dose of that in our water supply here in So Cal....You guys are a pack of Tavistockers.....Am I right? Up with the WHO!!! Dr Randi is trying to save the world from these silly paranormal scam artists that are against genetically modified foods, which are as wholesome as the food your granfather grew in his garden...Is Donald Rumsfeld a member? Where do I click to donate??? LOL.....I really love these guys!! Thanks for being here fellas...I'm going to go right down to Walmart now and get my H1N1 Tamiflu Shot for only $19.95....

Holy incoherent rant, Batman! Make sense man!

 

[woolfe99]

Headscratcher et al:

There is certainly no justification for whatever it is that Hitlers Nazis did to the Jews, the mentally ill, the gypsys, or any other group that they targeted during their short time in power. Whether they gassed 6 million as the bevy of self claimed experts who seem to live full time on this thread insist,

Please name one single historian who claims that 6 million Jews were gassed (notice I said gassed, not killed.) If you are unable to do so, I suggest you actually read a book or two about this subject about which you are publicly opining lest you risk making a fool of yourself even more so than you already have. Once again, although the internet can be a wonderful tool, when viewed as a sole source of information, it is not your friend. Particularly when your critical thinking skills are not well honed.

- Dave

 

[jmh423]

Wolff Said:"Please name one single historian who claims that 6 million Jews were gassed (notice I said gassed, not killed.) If you are unable to do so, I suggest you actually read a book or two about this subject about which you are publicly opining lest you risk making a fool of yourself even more so than you already have."

Woolfe
Thank you soooo much. Lord knows I wouldn't want to risk all that!! And I did notice you said "gassed not killed"... Where do I order my super deluxe leather bound Holocaust encyclopedia set?

As I said from the beginning I'm no expert on this subject nor do I want to spend countless hours learning the intricacies of exactly how each individual Jew was killed between '40-'45, whether soap or lampshades were made from them etc ....Nor do I want to hear the gory details of how each Russian Peasant was killed by the Commies and whether they were used for wallpaper or toothpaste. Racism, wars & mass murders are an abhorrent part of our recent history and still continue to this day.

What I find curious is the absolute insane hatred that is spewed out by this rabid pack of super deluxe Holo-Historians who have dominated this thread, directed towards me or ANYONE who questions the facts of their favorite subject. Wolfy get yourself a life mate, you are taking this thing too seriously sport..I'm Irish, and the filthy limeys practiced their tactics of torture and mass murder land theft and harassment on us for hundreds of years before they lit out on the rest of the world, yet I'm not lobbying to make sure there is a potato famine memorial in the tourist district of every major US city, and if there was one I wouldn't pay a quarter to get in. Let it go champ, it's over...

The constructive thing to do would be to try to stop the killing going on right now in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine..I'm starting to think you guys are bellowing that 6 million figure around the world endlessly just to give Netanyahoo & your homeys down there some cover until they get up to the 5.5 million mark killed in the middle east. How many Iranians are there? How many illegal nukes are stashed down in Dimona? Will you guys shut up finally if you even the score? Get some sleep sport.. Cheers

 

[lionking]

Holy incoherent rant, Batman! Make sense man!

As a matter of fact, that was a pretty standard post from this member

 

[jmh423]

Wolffey

I'll read a book or two someday, and see if I can hone my critical thinking skills way up to your level....You are priceless!! Thanks

 

[bigjelmapro]

@bigjelmapro - No, a ridiculous statement is that anyone who calls you out on your abuses is just a big meanie who hates Jews, and you know he is because he denied it.

Still ridiculous since you haven't made any arguments to support said abuses. Only Youtube/Liveleak drivel.

And how has this turned into my abuses? Then again, what are you actually going on about besides incoherent ranting?

For the love of god, try to use the simple 'Quote' or 'Reply' button on the bottom right. You're not really doing yourself a favor by constantly starting with '@' or '...said'. Wow.

 

[bigjelmapro]

The constructive thing to do would be to try to stop the killing going on right now in Afghanistan, Iraq, and Palestine..I'm starting to think you guys are bellowing that 6 million figure around the world endlessly just to give Netanyahoo & your homeys down there some cover until they get up to the 5.5 million mark killed in the middle east. How many Iranians are there? How many illegal nukes are stashed down in Dimona? Will you guys shut up finally if you even the score? Get some sleep sport.. Cheers

How are you being constructive here? You've muddied every single thread you've posted in with and endless slew of deflections and not sticking to the OP. Now you're just doing it more.

Btw, Israel's nukes aren't illegal by any means. Would you like to state how they are illegal by chance? Perhaps quote some international laws? Treaties? Statutes? Wah? You mean actually be coherent?

 

[dafydd]

Wolffey

I'll read a book or two someday, and see if I can hone my critical thinking skills way up to your level.

That would be a very good idea.