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[whatthebutlersaw]

Thats's the same as the Times article



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That would be because Swedish journalism at the moment consists of making half arsed translations of Brittish news articles. Why write for yourself when the Brits will do it for you...

I do apologize for our crappy journalists repeating scaremongering propaganda and not even being original about it. That paper is crypto fascist at the best of times. (Slight hyperbole - but only slight)

 

[Information Analyst]

For kicks and blood pressure, read this thread at the "Mothering" forum:

http://www.mothering.com/discussions/showthread.php?t=1142955

Get-Out-of-Jail-Free-Card:

"What I also don't get about these so-called underlying conditions: these are conditions that might NEVER have killed the person, but for the vaccine--a vaccine that was completely unnecessary. The vaccine IS what killed them, by affecting the underlying condition."

And this one is genuinely scary:

"Although hib vaccine IS highly effective for that particular strain, and deaths from hib went from a few thousand to nearly 0, it is not a success in my opinion. It has not reduced mortality in general numbers of babies. It just shifted the cause of death from one thing to another... 2000 other babies are now dying from other infections."

 

[Rolfe]

Did that happen somewhere?

I mean, the case we are talking about here is one with (reported and undisclosed) pre-existing medical conditions.

I didn't realise she already had a serious diagnosis. I did hear something said about diabetes, but I thought that was a hypothetical.

Still, it happens. A couple years ago at my old grade school, a 8th grade girl collapsed during basketball practice and died. Autopsy revealed she had an undiagnosed heart condition.

As you say it does happen. Although that sounds like hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, which is a well-recognised cause of sudden collapse and death of young people while exercising.

Rolfe.

 

[Toke]

Why don't they give homeopathic vaccines to 1,4 mill people and see how many die shortly after?

They don't come here, since they know we won't buy their crappola and they accuse us of being bought off by "big pharma". We are all just shills for big pharma doncha know.

Guess I have to post more on the subject to get on the payroll?

 

[Eos of the Eons]

I should be on their payroll, I get accused of it enough. Sadly, I'm not nearly educated enough to apply to be on the payroll!

 

[MikeSun5]

I didn't realise she already had a serious diagnosis.

It's just bogus that the first article on the girl's death jumped to the conclusion that the vaccine was to blame. That's irresponsible journalism... but then again, most journalists these days ARE irresponsible. Case and point:

All kinds of crazy: http://bit.ly/14mW0Y

So these secret societies put out crack to kill black people, AIDS to kill gay people, and now vaccines to kill everyone else. Oh no!

 

[zooterkin]

As you say it does happen. Although that sounds like hypertrophic cardiomyopathy, which is a well-recognised cause of sudden collapse and death of young people while exercising.

I just heard on the radio that she had a malignant tumour in her chest, which could have caused her death at any time.

A pathologist said the cause of death was a malignant tumour of the chest.

It affected both her heart and lungs.

The pathologist who carried out the post-mortem examination on the girl said the tumour was so severe that death could have arisen at any point.

 

[Kuko 4000]

Her stepfather said Natalie was "a wonderful daughter, sister and granddaughter".

He said: "Natalie had a strong personal faith in God. We know that she has gone to heaven to be with her saviour, Jesus."

Ok.

 

[Information Analyst]

Her stepfather said Natalie was "a wonderful daughter, sister and granddaughter".

He said: "Natalie had a strong personal faith in God. We know that she has gone to heaven to be with her saviour, Jesus."

Ok.

Well, at least you can say in this situation, their faith - whatever anyone else thinks about it - allows them to accept the death, rather than blaming and ranting on about the "evils of vaccination."

 

[LarianLeQuella]

Funny how few anti-vax pro-disease nutters I have eally seen all over this. Sure, you see some of the lunatic fringe, but I was expecting a Jenny McCarthy media blitz.

And a page that one of Dr. Plait's commenters has put together: http://factsnotfantasy.com/vaccines.html On one of the sub pages, there is a little math there in regards to autism diagnosis rates coincident with vaccines.

 

[Belz...]

I just heard on the radio that she had a malignant tumour in her chest, which could have caused her death at any time.

Meh. Just propaganda, I guess. NWO covering up their tracks.

 

[Darat]

I just heard on the radio that she had a malignant tumour in her chest, which could have caused her death at any time.

I just heard a news bulletin about it as well. But even though we now have the probable cause of death they were still saying "teenage girl who died after receiving the vaccine".

 

[Rolfe]

But even though we now have the probable cause of death they were still saying "teenage girl who died after receiving the vaccine".

There's nothing to object to in that wording. She did die after receiving the vaccine. That's exactly why we're interested in the case.

It's readers possibly putting a connotation on those words that they absolutely do not carry that's the problem.

Rolfe.

 

[Toke]

I should be on their payroll, I get accused of it enough. Sadly, I'm not nearly educated enough to apply to be on the payroll!

You need health care related education?
Count me out.

 

[Eos of the Eons]

Do note the Canadian news is behind on reporting that she even had a pre-existing condition at all. Instead, they reported on CBC news radio that Canada Health is just downplaying the child's death by saying that we don't use Cervarix in Canada, in Canada they offer Gardasil.

DOWNPLAYING!!!

 

[Deetee]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see this case quoted as proof that vaccines cause cancer.

 

[Captain.Sassy]

Wait.

I just thought of something.

We all know vaccines have no discernible medical benefits, and that vaccination is an NWO plot to turn us into subservient slaves of the illuminati.

So why do they vaccinate puppies?

 

[Eos of the Eons]

They vaccinate puppies for profit only doncha know. Just a money grab, yep yep.

I hear the parvovirus does nasty things to them if they aren't vaccinated though. Don't quote me on the spelling of the virus.

 

[Captain.Sassy]

Actually the more I think about it the more the antivaxxers have a case.

Puppies are vaccinated at a young age, and as they grow up they can be trained to do anything unquestioningly, even roll over or shake a paw for no reason other than their master told them.

It's pretty obvious the NWO rolled out vaccines with puppies first, to test the brain-washing effectiveness of vaccination. Now that NWO shadow priests like Cesar Millan have proven the effectiveness of vaccine induced zombification in canids, the bilderbergs have decided to start the vaccination of humanity.

 

[Captain.Sassy]

I honestly wouldn't be surprised to see this case quoted as proof that vaccines cause cancer.

lol

good grief

You're probably right.