Charles Manson announced today that he thinks Polanski has suffered enough and should go free.![]()
Just to piss his defenders off completely: send him to Gitmo!
Charles Manson announced today that he thinks Polanski has suffered enough and should go free.![]()
The support Polanski is getting from the entertainment industry is due to the fact that he's an acclaimed director. It's pathetic.Absolutely ridiculous arresting Polanski for this after 32 years.
Good grief.
Laws in the U.S. on this are totally ludicrous anyway, and not based upon research. The woman involved has said she doesn't want him to serve time, and I doubt there was any great harm done here.
With all of the criminals running rampant, some prosecutor arrests a guy for what sounded like consensual sex, 32 years ago? Some kind of statute of limitations has to apply somehow to this. If not it should. Please, this prosecutor must be some kind of moron.
I have a very strong feeling that Polanski will be free before long, and he should be. Watch and see. Not all justice systems are as stupid as the U.S.
Geeezzzzz.
How about if he were not a celebrity? The story would be the same?
I am sure nobody would make this noise after 32 years if he were an average guy.
How about if he were not a celebrity? The story would be the same?
I am sure nobody would make this noise after 32 years if he were an average guy.
Or be able to plea-bargain to reduce the charges as he did?
I suspect, as I think was suggested earlier in this thread, the facts admitted in the girl's testimony may have contributed to the prosecution's willingness to accept a plea-bargain.
He dated Nastassja Kinski when she was 15, around 1975, however it's possible that this was not reported until 1979, when she was working on Tess.I'm curious, though. Did Polanski have a reputation as having a thing for young girls? I hadn't heard that until now; but it has no bearing on anything as far as I'm concerned.
http://voices.washingtonpost.com/postpartisan/2009/09/reaction_to_roman_polanski.html
Anne Applebaum at the Wash. Post continues to dig a deeper hole for herself with her defence of Polanski.
I will, however, note the disturbing number of overtly anti-semetic remakrs in the commentary. She's may be an idiot but the nastyness of the anti-semetic remarks -- as opposed to those calling her out for being a moron -- is very sad.
Well, he clearly has lied at least once; how are we to tell which time, though?I've already pointed out THREE TIMES in this thread... that documentary is based, at least in part, on incorrect facts. One of the people interviewed in the documentary has since admitted that his statements were lies.
The girl said 'no'. The fact that it may not have been energetic enough (though, 'no' is 'no') to suit the prosecution was because she had been drugged. I agree that it was the safer course to go, but believe that if it had been someone of last stature, they would have gone after the rape conviction.
L.A. Times said:Under the terms of the deal, Polanski pleaded guilty to unlawful intercourse with a minor in exchange for the other charges being dismissed. He agreed that Judge Laurence Rittenband would determine the sentence. Rittenband sent the filmmaker to the prison in Chino for a 90-day "diagnostic evaluation" that he said would "enable the Court to reach a fair and just decision."
Prison officials released Polanski after 42 days and advised the judge that testing indicated his sentence should not include additional prison time. Rittenband labeled the prison report "a whitewash" and said he planned to send Polanski back to prison for an additional 48 days if he voluntarily agreed to deportation. Informed of this by his attorney, Polanski left the country, seeking refuge in France.
Not only that, one of the 'issues' with his case surrounds pictures taken of Polanski "partying" with what appear to be undearge girls while he was in Europe. Granted, it is impossible to determine someone's age simply from photos, and its quite possible that the girls were over 18; however, their appearance suggests that he had a thing for younger girls.
There's an article about the legal aspects of the case in this morning's L.A. Times.
Some interesting details I've not seen elsewhere:
I was referring more to the fact that the girl not only recognised the quaalude, but had taken them before, and had had sex at least twice before. While you and I may think this does not make any difference to what Polanski did, I can see his defence attourney making hay with that sort of admission.
Where did I say that it meant that she gave consent? And wasn't that exactly the charge to which he did plead guilty?Maybe...if the girl were 18...but she was 13 and completely and legally incapable of consent under any circumstances. She could have been -- please excuse me here -- ther randiest little Lolita to come down the pike, she could have been a drug pusher and a old hand at kiddie-porn pictures, and the law (rightly) states she can not give consent.
That was rather my point, though I clearly didn't make it well. He was tried in the 1970s,when the things I mentioned would have been used by the defence, not today.Now, back in the 70s, the case might have been a little harder because attitudes about rape and the no-ness of "no" and the imateriality of much of the victems past hadn't settled in. However, I don't think there is a lawyer anywhere today who would try to defend an 44 year old man with the argument that a 13 yearold had a knowing attitude about drugs and sex and so was somehow somewhat responsible for her own violation.
He doesn't interest me. He's a child rapist. I'm not giving him any more attention than this. I don't know why anyone, aside from the law, would.