Army Strong

[Quad4_72]

This fit my anecdotal evidence on the difference between USA and Danish forces. The Danish ones start as conscripts then volunteer for service abroad, and they appear way better at thinking on their feet in a unusual situation.

Feel free to write off as nationalistic bias.

Really not too sure what you are getting at here.

 

[Toke]

You do also realize that America has the most powerful and best trained military in the world correct? Some of that may be debatable in your opinion, but we can at least agree on one of the top 5. I personally think the best So I think what we are doing is working out pretty good for us.

I will go with the most powerful and works quite well for you.

 

[Quad4_72]

I will go with the most powerful and works quite well for you.

Well sounds like we agree with each other then Debate over haha.

 

[paximperium]

You do also realize that America has the most powerful and best trained military in the world correct? Some of that may be debatable in your opinion, but we can at least agree on one of the top 5. I personally think the best So I think what we are doing is working out pretty good for us.

I can agree with this...except for the large waste and humongous cost involved with maintaining this status.

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

Yes, absolutely.
The draft army gets a even distribution of the society, with regards to brains, politics, and educational standing. It can then "pick*" the most qualified for the jobs. The volunteer army have a sharply reduced recruitment base, and even though the recruits are far more motivated they are not representative of their society or likely to be as qualified.

*The "pick" part involves the military convincing people who would otherwise never have considered a military career that it it right for them.

This is subjective. I largely disagree with you here. In the US and Canada I would not dream of having a draft military. Some nations do well with mandatory service, others have astonishingly abysmal records (allies included) and undermines military efforts from other nations leading to unnecessary and potentially avoidable military and civilian casualties.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Haha. Thanks First (or master?) Sergeant

i was a "first Sergeant" on orders as an E-6 in a reserve unit ( enjoyed it)

I'm just a Master Sergeant

Carry on Sir- these people obviously have no concept of customs and courtesies or 22-5

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

This is subjective. I largely disagree with you here. In the US and Canada I would not dream of having a draft military. Some nations do well with mandatory service, others have astonishingly abysmal records (allies included) and undermines military efforts from other nations leading to unnecessary and potentially avoidable military and civilian casualties.

acknowledging a General Officer in the thread ( and not disagreeing)

I'll stand in the corner now

 

[Toke]

This is subjective. I largely disagree with you here. In the US and Canada I would not dream of having a draft military. Some nations do well with mandatory service, others have astonishingly abysmal records (allies included) and undermines military efforts from other nations leading to unnecessary and potentially avoidable military and civilian casualties.

Well, there could be some cultural differences involved here?

 

[Quad4_72]

Well, there could be some cultural differences involved here?

Indeed. You see, there are quite a few hippies in America and if they were to be drafted, well, let's just say the quality of our fighting force would diminish drastically.

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

acknowledging a General Officer in the thread ( and not disagreeing)

I'll stand in the corner now

I'm ordering you on the front line here.

And don't downplay your rank and abilities. You're one of the most intelligent E-8's I've been in contact with.

ETA: Forget E-anything. Let's go with O-up.

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

Well, there could be some cultural differences involved here?

There are cultural differences, there are disagreements among strong allies - name an important aspect of society and you will likely find it somewhere in the forces. Even the MRE's are vastly different.

 

[back2basics]

Dont whine to me, I dont do it




thats why my tab says "special"- your logic has failed you and there was nothing "wrong" with what I said


tit for tat


you are very welcome- they all do, they just seem to forget it unless the wolf is at their door

You do know your need to demonize is a weakness? I would think you worked that out already? It is part of your job after all, but its the part that makes it easier for you to do your job.

 

[Quad4_72]

You do know your need to demonize is a weakness? I would think you worked that out already? It is part of your job after all, but its the part that makes it easier for you to do your job.

Wait a second here, demonizing the weak is part of his job? Please do elaborate on that.

 

[ElectricVoodoo]

You do know your need to demonize is a weakness? I would think you worked that out already? It is part of your job after all, but its the part that makes it easier for you to do your job.

Wait a second here, demonizing the weak is part of his job? Please do elaborate on that.

I second the motion. Please, elaborate and back your statement up with evidence to support your claim.

 

[back2basics]

Wait a second here, demonizing the weak is part of his job? Please do elaborate on that.

Sorry that’s not at all what I was saying.

I said demonizing IN his job is a weakness.

I know people in special forces. They have not resorted to demonization to find it easier to kill. Our friend here is the master demonizer. It takes practice to get that good, look at his posts. He demonizes civis, liberals all sorts of people. I think he learnt that because he is a good person, but finds it harder to kill an enemy he believes is not entirely like him. While some can do it as its their task.

 

[Quad4_72]

Sorry that’s not at all what I was saying.

I said demonizing IN his job is a weakness.

I know people in special forces. They have not resorted to demonization to find it easier to kill. Our friend here is the master demonize. It takes practice to get that good. I think he learnt that because he is a good person, but finds it harder to kill an enemy he believes is not entirely like him. While some can do it as its their task.

Where in the hell did you get ANY of that from?

 

[back2basics]

Where in the hell did you get ANY of that from?

Psycology and his posts. People who demonize, this much, are doing it for a reason. It's not a stretch to see where that comes from, considering his vocation. I would rather think of it that way than projection, which would be an insult to the man.

 

[Quad4_72]

Psycology and his posts. People who demonize, this much, are doing it for a reason. It's not a stretch to see where that comes from, considering his vocation.

I am no fan of liberals either. Do I demonize as well?

 

[back2basics]

I am no fan of liberals either. Do I demonize as well?

Nope.

 

[LONGTABBER PE]

Sorry that’s not at all what I was saying.

I said demonizing IN his job is a weakness.

I know people in special forces. They have not resorted to demonization to find it easier to kill. Our friend here is the master demonizer. It takes practice to get that good, look at his post. He demonizes civis, liberals all sorfts of people. I think he learnt that because he is a good person, but finds it harder to kill an enemy he believes is not entirely like him. While some can do it as its their task.

Sorry that’s not at all what I was saying.

You dont know what you were saying

I know people in special forces.

You couldnt possibly- if you did, they wouldnt acknowledge you

Our friend here is the master demonizer. It takes practice to get that good, look at his post. He demonizes civis, liberals all sorfts of people. I think he learnt that because he is a good person, but finds it harder to kill an enemy he believes is not entirely like him. While some can do it as its their task

Thats a load of crap. I know when I kill- I know when I give the order to kill. I remember all of them. I still dont see your point- if you have one