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Army Strong

JihadJane said:
That's my impression as well.
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Except for the lack of evidence, yeah sure.
It is interesting that the majority of the posters on this thread are so brutishly defensive against such a simple, non-threatening message.
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What message? You have one? I though you were just making small talk?
 
JihadJane said:
That's my impression as well.

It is interesting that the majority of the posters on this thread are so brutishly defensive against such a simple, non-threatening message.


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'Mission Accomplished'

"Shocking, honest, brave and an amazing eye-opener. Watch this movie if you really want to know what's happening in Iraq. Shows both sides of the story about the insurgency war that you won't see on TV. Critical of US policy, but sympathetic to the American soldiers on the ground. Historical movie."

Run Time - 89 Minutes

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Its also interesting you can still do nowt but spam. Fly away Peter, fly away Paul
 
JihadJane said:
That's my impression as well.

It is interesting that the majority of the posters on this thread are so brutishly defensive against such a simple, non-threatening message.


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'Mission Accomplished'

"Shocking, honest, brave and an amazing eye-opener. Watch this movie if you really want to know what's happening in Iraq. Shows both sides of the story about the insurgency war that you won't see on TV. Critical of US policy, but sympathetic to the American soldiers on the ground. Historical movie."

Run Time - 89 Minutes

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J.J.,

Did you not read my post or check out the links I provided? The "message" in this video is completely BOGUS because these former service members are PROVEN LIARS. Their status as liars and malcontents isn't a theory, it's a well documented fact.

I told you from my own personal knowledge and experience that Hicks is telling an absolute lie. He was an armor crewman, I was also an armor crewman and I'm telling you that tankers do not engage in silly made up "mass kidnappings". And now, two other armor crewmen, including an active duty officer, have responded to this thread and have verified my statement. Also, Hicks is not the only liar of the bunch, he's just the tip of the iceberg. These axe-grinding losers have zero credibility.

This so-called "message" is completely invalid because it is all based on lies.

L.
 
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Lupie said:
J.J.,

Did you not read my post or check out the links I provided? The "message" in this video is completely BOGUS because these former service members are PROVEN LIARS. Their status as liars and malcontents isn't a theory, it's a well documented fact.

I told you from my own personal knowledge and experience that Hicks is telling an absolute lie. He was an armor crewman, I was also an armor crewman and I'm telling you that tankers do not engage in silly made up "mass kidnappings". And now, two other armor crewmen, including an active duty officer, have responded to this thread and have verified my statement. Also, Hicks is not the only liar of the bunch, he's just the tip of the iceberg. These axe-grinding losers have zero credibility.

This so-called "message" is completely invalid because it is all based on lies.

L.
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I wasn't very impressed by your "debunking", which I may come back to later. It seemed to be mostly army-bubble ad hominem. Are you saying that the original (army) "Army Strong" message is not a lie?
 
JihadJane said:
I wasn't very impressed by your "debunking", which I may come back to later. It seemed to be mostly army-bubble ad hominem. Are you saying that the original (army) "Army Strong" message is not a lie?
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Do you actually have a point?
 
paximperium said:
If you don't have a point and have no balls to defend your point, just insinuate and run away.
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I was just curious LOL

I love people whose sole source of information is the internet and the agenda driven voices of a few lying malcontents telling me what they think they know when I'm one of the ones here doing it.
 
JihadJane said:
I wasn't very impressed by your "debunking", which I may come back to later. It seemed to be mostly army-bubble ad hominem. Are you saying that the original (army) "Army Strong" message is not a lie?
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I'm not here to impress you, or anyone else. And I am not "debunking" anything. I am stating facts that are a matter of historical record. You know, I would think that you would want to make your statement, and further your cause and beliefs with material that is authentic, and has credibility. I'm sure there are plenty of videos out there that actually have honest veterans with legitimate gripes about the military, why don't you come up with a video like that?

Also, it is not an ad-hom attack to bring attention to someones poor military record. If you did even the smallest amount of reading and research, you would see that PFC Hicks READILY ADMITS to the criminal charges he recieved in the Army, and he admits to having a long series of disciplinary actions taken against him. He also states in plain english when he's not in front of any cameras or crowds, that he hates the Army and those with whom he served. He has an axe to grind and is telling outrageous lies to get back at the Army and those who he hates.

So, since he has admitted all of these things, does that mean that he is engaging in an ad-hom attack against himself?

And, the US Army phrase "Army Strong" is neither a "lie" nor is it a "truth". It's simply a catch phrase used in print and television commercials for crying out loud.

Why does everything with you have to be "truther" versus "debunker"? Why is it that you absolutely will not believe ANYTHING from anyone who you percieve as a debunker?

Why do you refuse to look at the military records of the people in this video? The info/records are readily available from many sources. I am quickly learning that trying to talk to you, and to others like you, is an exercise in futility. I can never be right because to you I am a debunker. And, you believe that because you are a truther that you could never, ever be wrong about anything. So, at this point, there is no point, so, on to my ignore list you go.

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Hicks lying or telling the truth aside, we do know that there are depleted uranium weapons being used in Iraq. Such weapons will have a long term effect on solders, civilians, their spouses and their children. Often, this long term effect is illness then death, or birth with wicked deformity.

These weapons are very effective at getting jobs done in the short term.
 
Nosi said:
Hicks lying or telling the truth aside, we do know that there are depleted uranium weapons being used in Iraq. Such weapons will have a long term effect on solders, civilians, their spouses and their children.
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If you get hit by a tank round, it doesn't matter much what it's made of.

If you don't get hit, depleted uranium isn't particularly dangerous. I wouldn't suggest that you grind it up and eat it - it's still a toxic heavy metal, though nowhere near as dangerous as cadmium or mercury. But if it's intact it's quite safe to handle.
 
Peace of mind

Hi there! I'm new to this forum, so i'm not familiar with the patterns of discussion and debate etc.. but i am finding the topics i have scanned so far quite interesting!

With regards to the vidio and the responces made to it, i was a little shocked at how unecessarily rude some of the statements were??? (especially from quad4 72???)

The vidio is surely of interest in its own right? and if not, then why comment at all?


I have two friends who are 'peace activists'.. Ron Kovic and Ted Quinn
and the message they seem to want to get across is that basically war causes more harm than good.. and i suppose the more people that realise that, the more chance the world has for a change for the better.
This vidio being a tiny component in work towards that potential change.

Thanks for posting it JJ!

Best wishes, super nova
 
super nova said:
Hi there! I'm new to this forum, so i'm not familiar with the patterns of discussion and debate etc.. but i am finding the topics i have scanned so far quite interesting!

With regards to the vidio and the responces made to it, i was a little shocked at how unecessarily rude some of the statements were??? (especially from quad4 72???)

The vidio is surely of interest in its own right? and if not, then why comment at all?


I have two friends who are 'peace activists'.. Ron Kovic and Ted Quinn
and the message they seem to want to get across is that basically war causes more harm than good.. and i suppose the more people that realise that, the more chance the world has for a change for the better.
This vidio being a tiny component in work towards that potential change.

Thanks for posting it JJ!

Best wishes, super nova
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So lies and misrepresentations are fine as long as it's for the greater good, huh?
Myself, I prefer reality.
 
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