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Cainkane1

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We've all seen them. Talking to themselves and acting irrationally. Alcohol can do it and so can drugs.

However did you know that some medicines used to treat these disorders actually make the patient more irrational? Phenthiiazides such as stellazine and thorazine actually to irrational speech and behaviour.

It happened to me. I was working at a circuit breaker manufacturing company and the factory noise apparently caused me to have a nervous breakdown. I should have quit but I went to a doctor who referred me to a psychiatrist. I was given thorazine and stellazine and I was eventually fired for bizarre behaviour and sleeping on the job.

My behaviour didn't make sense. I knew I was acting strangely but I couldn't help it..
 
Yes. I do know.

I also know that you and your doctor must evaluate any bad reactions and either regulate the dosage or change your medication accordingly. It is well known that different people do react differently to the same medication.
 
I was on Paxil for less than a month when it began to cause horrible hallucinations and pervading fear. The shrink who prescribed it wrote the prescription on our first meeting and assured me there were no side effects worth mentioning.

It took me years to regain enough confidence in the psychiatric establishment to go back to another shrink.

But, yes, if they're honest, they'll tell you that all kinds of side effects are possible and it often takes months if not years to find the right drug and dosage.
 
Yup, side effects exist, that is why you should be encouraged to call your doctor about any adverse side effects as soon as they occur.

Diagnosis is often refined and clarified through treatment.
 
Cainkane1 said:
We've all seen them. Talking to themselves and acting irrationally. Alcohol can do it and so can drugs.

However did you know that some medicines used to treat these disorders actually make the patient more irrational? Phenthiiazides such as stellazine and thorazine actually to irrational speech and behaviour.

It happened to me. I was working at a circuit breaker manufacturing company and the factory noise apparently caused me to have a nervous breakdown. I should have quit but I went to a doctor who referred me to a psychiatrist. I was given thorazine and stellazine and I was eventually fired for bizarre behaviour and sleeping on the job.

My behaviour didn't make sense. I knew I was acting strangely but I couldn't help it..
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Oook, stalazine and thorazine, yuck. Why did they prescribe that? I am not saying that they are not powerful medicines that should be used with caution, I am curious as to teh rational for that treatment. This must have also been quite a while ago.
 
Dancing David said:
Yup, side effects exist, that is why you should be encouraged to call your doctor about any adverse side effects as soon as they occur. ...
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Yes, that has long been a problem. More than 30 years ago doctors were discussing the problem of patients not reporting side-effects- it is sad the problem persists. Recently, my friend had major surgery and in the ICU she was on IV pain med. When she complained about the side-effects she was immediately switched to something which, fortunately, did the job without the annoyance. When one hesitates to speak up, one suffers needlessly.
 
Dancing David said:
Oook, stalazine and thorazine, yuck. Why did they prescribe that? I am not saying that they are not powerful medicines that should be used with caution, I am curious as to teh rational for that treatment. This must have also been quite a while ago.
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1971. A long time ago but a nervous breakdown and the consequences stick with you.
 
Cainkane1 said:
1971. A long time ago but a nervous breakdown and the consequences stick with you.
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I just question why the doctor chose those medications,
the differential should have been
anxiety
mood disorder
psychosis

You start with anxiety and rule it out, then you look at the mood disorders and rule them out, then and only then do youu look at symptoms of psychosis.

It sounds as though the doctor went straifght to psychosis or had an over preference for anti-psychotics.

So if you were showing signs of psychosis the mood disorder is still the first rule out, you can treat mania with APs but it is not as effective as mood stablizers.
 
Back in the 60's and 70's every psychiatrist I went to wanted to put me on that garbage. I was miserable until one day after I had had enough I quit cold turkey. I'd rather be dead than be on that stuff again.
 
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We've all seen them. Talking to themselves and acting irrationally.
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That's not mental illness. That's handfree phones.

Oh, damnit, steve beat me to it.
 
Cainkane1 said:
Back in the 60's and 70's every psychiatrist I went to wanted to put me on that garbage. I was miserable until one day after I had had enough I quit cold turkey. I'd rather be dead than be on that stuff again.
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Yeah , no wonder if you aren't psychotic no one would want to take it. Drooling, shaking, zombie shuffle, neuroleptc malignancy syndrome, tardive dyskinesia, sedation, retrograde ejaculation, constipation...some doozy side effects. Much better medicines available today.

I still think that they may have missed the differential diagnosis.
 
Cainkane1 said:
thorazine and stellazine
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I went to a psychiatrist in 1976 for my PMS and that's what he prescribed,
I threw the prescription in the trash on my way out of his office.

In 1987 another psychiatrist prescribed Halcion for my "anxiety" and it made me so angry, really angry. That was totally out of character for me at the time so I told him that I didn't want to take it anymore. He replied that it wasn't a side affect of the Halcion, nope, it was probably another "angry personality" that I didn't know I had.

Long story short...Halcion has side affects including anger,rage and hostility.
I was a complete idiotic b**ch for several years while on that crap.
 
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I took mushrooms once in high school and thought I was going to die. They were self-perscribed and I would not recommend them to anyone.

...wrote a note and everything. so embarrassing...
 
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