Encountered my first "Truther" today

TruthersLie said:
He could have been held a nice long time. I had a client who was held for a week w/out bail being set.

Or you could also have a reallllly simple case of misunderstanding on TRI's part, he may have had bail set, but been UNABLE TO MEET IT. (mom in prision, dad dead/gone... who is going to pay his bail? oh no one)
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Well, as I mentioned earlier - juveniles in Florida are not even eligible for bail, so that rules out the possibility of bail being set too high.

triforcharity: any news?
 
Justin39640 said:
there is none
but red's pride would rather him look like a moron than be honest (par for the course in the TM i suppose)
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It doesn't have to be pride. Generally, morons don't realize that they're morons. Because they're morons.
 
deep44 said:
Well, as I mentioned earlier - juveniles in Florida are not even eligible for bail, so that rules out the possibility of bail being set too high.

triforcharity: any news?
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Deep, I am so sorry. He did not grant him a release. Sorry. My mistake. You are correct though. Juvies in Floridaa do not need a bond. BUT, if they have been adjuicaated as ADULTS with felonies, then a jusge caan require a "surity bond" wich is simmilar.
 
WUBRINY63 said:
At least 3 out of 3 debunkers have low evidence of their stories.
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“At least”? How can there be any more than 3 out of 3?

Nevermind – you’re a truther… your math must be about as strong as your physics.
 
triforcharity said:
My deepest apologies ma'am. Please, allow me to grovel at your feet and beg your forgiveness.
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:) That won't be necessary. :) I'll just make fun of you for your next post:


triforcharity said:
Deep, I am so sorry. He did not grant him a release. Sorry. My mistake. You are correct though. Juvies in Floridaa do not need a bond. BUT, if they have been adjuicaated as ADULTS with felonies, then a jusge caan require a "surity bond" wich is simmilar.
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I guess that was a 6 beer & 2 bourbons post. :D :)
 
Ultima1 said:
Deep, I am so sorry. He did not grant him a release. Sorry. My mistake. You are correct though. Juvies in Floridaa do not need a bond. BUT, if they have been adjuicaated as ADULTS with felonies, then a jusge caan require a "surity bond" wich is simmilar.
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There, all better. :)
 
WildCat said:
It doesn't have to be pride. Generally, morons don't realize that they're morons. Because they're morons.
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Can we stay on the topic of this thread please? Namecalling, misappropriating quotes and general foolishness is distracting from the point, which is for Tri to support his story with some type of proof.
 
RedIbis said:
Can we stay on the topic of this thread please? Namecalling, misappropriating quotes and general foolishness is distracting from the point, which is for Tri to support his story with some type of proof.
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you were proven a liar here in this thread, thats what was being discussed

would you like us to start a new thread on how much you lie and whether or not its because youre dishonest, too proud, or just a moron?
 
RedIbis said:
Can we stay on the topic of this thread please? Namecalling, misappropriating quotes and general foolishness is distracting from the point, which is for Tri to support his story with some type of proof.
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Excuse me? Who made put you in charge of this thread?

Tri was the OP and he posted just to tell a story. He doesn’t need to prove it. But I see a handful of people have already tried to explain that to you, with no success.

Justin39640 said:
you were proven a liar here in this thread, thats what was being discussed

would you like us to start a new thread on how much you lie and whether or not its because youre dishonest, too proud, or just a moron?
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How about all of the above?
 
Justin39640 said:
you were proven a liar here in this thread, thats what was being discussed

would you like us to start a new thread on how much you lie and whether or not its because youre dishonest, too proud, or just a moron?
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Go for it. It should be a real hoot.
 
tsig said:
Red, you know that would be a call-out thread. Are you trying to lead TheDaver down the garden path?
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It was his idea. I could not care less. I'll ignore him over there or over here if he stays off topic.
 
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deep44 said:
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Anyway - I'm looking forward to seeing that sanitized report. May I suggest that you send the original to Hokulele for verification?
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Just to clarify, I had recommended that triforcharity send the original to one of the Admins (Darat or Lisa Simpson) as they and only they have access to tri's registration information and can verify that the names match. Tri can send it to one of the mods, who can then have one of the admins check for verification.

I have no access to the name behind tri's screen nick and would be able to confirm the report, but not that it matches tri. I know T.A.M. did something similar with his credentials way back when, and he can confirm how that process worked.

It may be that my custom blue title ("TLA Dictatrix") confuses the issue. All that really means is that I am in charge of the monthly language award, sort of the anti-Stundies, but that is it. I cannot edit posts, move posts, and I know as little about the posters here as anyone else, and you (the generic you, not you personally) should trust my word no more or no less than any other poster here.

By the way, if you want to know more about the Language Awards, please see the Nomination thread in Community:

http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showthread.php?postid=2821875#post2821875

You can also click on the links in my signature to see the current polls.

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I was speaking to a friend of mine, who happens to be a lawyer, and he said it would be ill-advised to release the unsanitized report to anyone, as juvie cases are not subject to FOIA, and I could end up in some legal trouble if this was released. Especially because he will have a "withhold adjudication" and the judge has already agreed to a sealed record.

I will have to ask him if a sanitized report could be presented without problems. So far, it doesn't seem that this would be a problem.

Maybe LashL could help a little.

*Bows 3 times in the direction of Toronto*
 
triforcharity said:
I was speaking to a friend of mine, who happens to be a lawyer, and he said it would be ill-advised to release the unsanitized report to anyone, as juvie cases are not subject to FOIA, and I could end up in some legal trouble if this was released. Especially because he will have a "withhold adjudication" and the judge has already agreed to a sealed record.

I will have to ask him if a sanitized report could be presented without problems. So far, it doesn't seem that this would be a problem.

Maybe LashL could help a little.

*Bows 3 times in the direction of Toronto*
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There are several issues that arise, but the short answer is no, no, absolutely no, you should not under any circumstances provide an unredacted report involving a juvenile to anyone who is not directly involved in the case.

Generally speaking, a redacted version with any and all potentially identifying information pertaining to the juvenile removed (i.e., name, date of birth, address, school, next of kin, and potentially much more) may be okay to disseminate, but you should not do so without having the redacted version vetted by a lawyer first. Particularly since you have alluded to a "sealed record" - it is important to ensure that you know what the terms of any sealing order actually are before you can know if even redacting the documents will comply with the terms of any such order.

This is a matter that is probably not best dealt with in public on a discussion forum, but we can talk about it further via PM if you like.
 
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See this has been exposed as yet another fabrication... after all when debunkers want to smear twoofs they need to make up fake legal cases with indepth background and understanding of legal matters and they will make up fake State of florida papers that will be so redacted they are useless.

Because we know how debunkers make up stuff to make truthers look like idiots (see National Geographic special or Van Jones)

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