Split Thread WTC7 is a problem for the 9/11 official story

[Toke]

By pilots, do you mean the guys in a hidden bunker remote controlling the plane?

Well,no I were thinking of the ones in the cockpit, the first set.

I don' t know how many sets Ibis got.

 

[lapman]

Okay. But now check whether hose rights can be overridden.
A right that can be overridden is not a right. ALL your rights can now be overriden wthout recourse to the courts. A faceless functionary only has to say that you are an 'enemy combatant' and you can be beaten within an inch of your life, imprisoned forever....you know some of the rest or can imagine it.

Why do you lie? Maybe you should try actually reading the law instead of blindly following what your TM gods say. I may not be as versed in legalese ans LashL, but the language in all the versions of the Patriot Act are very clear.

 

[aggle-rithm]

The way I see it is this:-

The explanation with the fewest number of assumptions is the one most likely to be correct. So let's do an assumption count:

WTC1 and WTC2 had explosives/incendiaries buit in. So did WTC7.

Three assumptions.

As far as we can tell none of he other WTC buildings did.

Also an assumption, but a pretty safe one. It's also pretty safe to assume there were no jellyfish living in those buildings.

WTC 1 and WTC2 were struck by airliners and subsequently collapsed while WTC7 had some unlikely looking fires ad also collapsed several hours later.

Fact, except for the term "unlikely looking fires". This isn't an assumption, just clumsy hyperbole.

The only difference between the Twin Towers and WTC7 was therefore the absence of an airliner.

Fact.

Then I thought 'perhaps an airliner was meant to hit WTC7 too ''- but for some reason it did not arrive so the perps lit some fires on various floors of the building in the hope that they would connect up and cause a big enough fire to allow the bilding to be demolished under cover of the blaze.

All assumptions, or at least idle speculation.

Unfortunately the fire did not eally catch and they had to go ahead and demolish the building anyway at 5:20 in the afternoon.

First part wrong, second part assumption.

Boston Logan Airport: Flight 93 got stuck on the runway and could not take off for an hour aafter it's scheduled departure time.

Fact.
ETA: Wrong! Thanks, DGM.

Obvously t was now too late to try to crash it into WTC7 so they flew it out over rural Pennsylvania while they decided what to do with it.

Assumption.

You see how neat this is ? Three airliners, three buildings and no mess in Pennsylvania.

There's nothing neat about it at all. The only facts in your hypothesis are completely consistent with the "official story". The rest are agenda-driven assumptions, hyperbole, or wild speculation.

 

[DGM]

Boston Logan Airport: Flight 93 got stuck on the runway and could not take off for an hour aafter it's scheduled departure time. Obvously t was now too late to try to crash it into WTC7 so they flew it out over rural Pennsylvania while they decided what to do with it.

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Ah Bill: Flight 93 flew out of Newark NJ. Try to keep up!

 

[aggle-rithm]

Okay. But now check whether hose rights can be overridden.
A right that can be overridden is not a right. ALL your rights can now be overriden wthout recourse to the courts. A faceless functionary only has to say that you are an 'enemy combatant' and you can be beaten within an inch of your life, imprisoned forever....you know some of the rest or can imagine it.

Exactly what I would expect an enemy combatant to say.

 

[DGM]

Bill:
Just to bring you up yo speed (after 8 years)
AA 11 and UAL 175 Logan (Boston)
UAL 93 Newark (NJ)
AA 77 Washington/Dulles (VA)

Glag I could help

 

[Slayhamlet]

exactly what i would expect an enemy combatant to say.

 

[bill smith]

Exactly what I would expect an enemy combatant to say.

An '' enemy combatant '' can be persuaded to say anything at all that you want him to say.

 

[bill smith]

Bill:
Just to bring you up yo speed (after 8 years)
AA 11 and UAL 175 Logan (Boston)
UAL 93 Newark (NJ)
AA 77 Washington/Dulles (VA)

Glag I could help

Thanks.

 

[Heiwa]

Erich Kästner wrote abt 75 years ago:

WARNUNG VOR SELBSTMORD

Diesen Rat will ich dir geben:
Wenn du zur Pistole greifst
und den Kopf hinhältst und kneifst,
kannst du was von mir erleben.

Weißt wohl wieder mal geläufig,
was die Professoren lehren?
Daß die Guten selten wären
und die Schweinehunde häufig?

Ist die Walze wieder dran,
daß es Arme gibt und Reiche?
Mensch, ich böte deiner Leiche
noch im Sarge Prügel an!

Laß doch deine Neuigkeiten!
Laß doch diesen alten Mist!
Daß die Welt zum Schießen ist,
wird kein Konfirmand bestreiten.

War dein Plan nicht: irgendwie
alle Menschen gut zu machen?
Morgen wirst du drüber lachen.
Aber besser kann man sie.

Ja, die Bösen und Beschränkten
sind die Meisten und die Stärkern.
Aber spiel nicht den Gekränkten.
Bleib am Leben, sie zu ärgern!

 

[DGM]

Thanks.

Anytime!

Is there any other part of your confusion I can clear up?

Before you answer, please ask yourself, (1) do I have proof? (2) is it documented without speculation? (3) Is my source for my proof first hand?. If you can answer yes to all of these, I would be glad to help (In another thread, if you want me to start. one).

 

[WildCat]

after that embarrassing display
nothing you type holds any water

RedIbis has had many such embarrassing displays, his "nothing you type holds any water" threshold was reached some time in 2007.

 

[Justin39640]

Erich Kästner wrote abt 75 years ago:

WARNUNG VOR SELBSTMORD

after a quick trip to google translate and your antics in other threads
are you trying to get banned?

i guess thats better than admitting defeat huh?

 

[DGM]

after a quick trip to google translate and your antics in other threads
are you trying to get banned?

i guess thats better than admitting defeat huh?

Actually he more than likely wants to see how many people he can jerk around. Although I have no clue why anyone bothers with him anymore.

 

[Luntoc]

Congratulations bill smith, you just graduated to the level of Richard Gage.

Gage: "The WTC was a classic controlled demoltion!"

Me: "Why can't we hear the noises from the charges?"

Gage: "Cuz it was actually a thermite demolition."

This is my problem. If thermite was used and it doesn't explode, how did people hear explosions? Its funny how everytime I tell a truther this they never respond back except once and the only thing I got was "I don't know the answer but I will let you know" and I'm still waiting.

 

[triforcharity]

Ah well....it's almost four hours now so what the hell.

The nanothermite was inside the core columns which were well fireproofed.. There was no fear of standard office fires ignting the thermite prematurely.

Um, how did they cut the core columns and nobody notice?? How did they get the thermite in there without anyone noticing??

 

[triforcharity]

They could have been inserted t any time. The building could have had loads of 'redundent relays' I think they are called to ensure hat the signals got ythrough to the hundreds or thousands of magnesium detonators.

ATTENTION BILL SMITH!!!!

How could they POSSIBLY use RADIO CONTROLED DETONATORS, when out 1.2 Ghz radios WOULDN'T WORK above about the 20th floor?? This is impossible.

 

[triforcharity]

Where did you se these 'huge roaring fires' ?Which side of WTC7 ?

Throughout the day, all of them. There was not a single side that I could see, and at some point throughout the day, I saw every side, and every time, there was fire shoorting out of the windows.

 

[triforcharity]

Nope. I'd ask you for support for your claims, but I think I know how that would go.

What, like video of a newman reporting it?? Live that day??? That video?? We here call that evidence. I also recall a few different firefighters talking about the bulge, and even saying it was leaning BEFORE it collapsed. WE also have the testimony of quite a few firefighters from FDNY talking about the bulge. Again, we call that evidence.

 

[RedIbis]

What, like video of a newman reporting it?? Live that day??? That video?? We here call that evidence. I also recall a few different firefighters talking about the bulge, and even saying it was leaning BEFORE it collapsed. WE also have the testimony of quite a few firefighters from FDNY talking about the bulge. Again, we call that evidence.

I'm familiar with the reports of a bulge in WTC 7. I was speaking more to your eyewitness testimony.