And what does that got to do with the White House?
The white house backs Karzai.
No, the election is to at least try and exercise it. Nobody is claiming it's a perfect democracy, but at least trying it out is better than not doing it at all. Is she proposing we forgo the elections altogether?
She proposing we don't fool ourselves into thinking Afghanistan is a democracy. Every now and again, you seem to manage that.
And what about her use of the word "puppet"? Doesn't she imply that some external forces control her government?
It is a strong word. Do you think America has no control over Karzai?
No, you are willingfully misreading what she said. The way she expresses herself she puts all the blame of the escalation solely on NATO, and implying it's deliberate.
No she does not. Granted, if you limit yourself to reading just a few words at a time, you can make it look like NATO is the only focus of her criticism. But, as DC pointed out to you, it is not the only focus.
Are you saying NATO deliberately kills Afghans and destroys their infrastructures? I DEMAND AN ANSWER.
I have to say: that was pretty strange. Do you ever stop and wonder whether you have misunderstood someone?
No, because that's not what she meant.
Then what did she mean when she said: "I realised women's rights had been sold out completely..." at the moment she saw the US making allies with the warlords she regards as criminals?
Doesn't she see that the Coalition is there to help the Afghans?
To help the Afghans do what? Keep criminals in power? Are you saying schools couldn't have been built if America had chosen to ally itself with other Afghans?
So again I'm asking you for the third time, what else did she have in mind? How else than with brute force do you defeat the Taliban and keep them at bay?
You still don't seem to have got the point. What makes you think she is a pacifist? Was it when she said she respected the Mujahedeen who fought the Soviets? No. It was when she said that democracy doesn't come from the barrel of a gun. That leaves you with a problem: you have to argue how the phrase "democracy doesn't come from the barrel of a gun" is necessarily, and without alternative, an indication of pacifism.
That's because the Iranians wouldn't recognize a democracy if it bludgeoned them in the face with a baseball bat.
I like your assumption that the American government MUST want democracy for Afghanistan rather than the facade of democracy. America has been supporting dictatorships all around the world for a long, long time. I prefer to judge the American government on its actions rather than its rhetoric. Their actions in Afghanistan, especially siding with Karzai and the criminals who make up some of his cabinet, don't lead me to believe that democracy is the goal.
Well this is what Joya seems to think should happen. She seems to think the Afghans will singlehandedly get rid of the Taliban and the warlords (even though they're Afghans too) and instigate a free true democracy respectful of women with no army and apparently no means at all except their sheer will power. How about that!
See, you're still at it.
Please explain how the phrase "democracy doesn't come from the barrel of a gun" is necessarily, and without alternative, an indication of pacifism. Pay special attention to the case where the speaker has also endorsed fighting for independence against, oh I don't know, let's pick someone at random: the Soviets.
