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You might as well Face it Doron, whatever your personal ambitions and dreams for OM, in the real world it just isn't happening, and gives no indication whatsoever of doing so. This is partly because it just doesn't work as maths, and partly because you seem incapable of communicating it intelligibly. It's a superficially interesting idea, unfortunately with no known practical application.

TM and other forms of meditation are valuable mental exercises - some have been for thousands of years. You may wish to align OM with TM, but it's clear that it has nothing useful to offer that isn't already available, and in terms of applied mathematics, appears to be worse than useless.

Rather than wasting your and everyone else's time evading questions and posting old links here, wouldn't it be more productive to write your book on OM and move on to something that has a chance of real-world acceptance?

Or has your investment in OM trapped you in the Sunk-Cost Fallacy?
 
doronshadmi said:
No Little 10 Toes,

Since what I have to say can be found in http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5008114&postcount=5726 you have no choice but to face it if you really wish to understand my answers.
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dlorde said:
So your persistent and futile presence on these forums is your best effort to spread and teach the understanding of Complexity ?

What has your claimed 30 years of research and development of OM achieved in the real world? what has OM achieved? How many people are knowingly using OM to make a better world?
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Avoidance noted. Since you cannot will not give an answer to basic questions asked, I have to make guess what your answers would be.

Your answers would be, "No, since I've been on other forums. Nothing. Nothing. Maybe one, if I count myself."
 
Amusing to note the similarity between Doron's articles and papers and those generated by SciGen (you can generate your own here), a number of which have also been accepted and presented at conferences and symposia :D
 
dlorde said:
You might as well Face it Doron, whatever your personal ambitions and dreams for OM, in the real world it just isn't happening,
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The existence of this forum and your reply is evidence that OM works.

Your understanding of it is another story.
 
doronshadmi said:
The existence of this forum and your reply is evidence that OM works.

Your understanding of it is another story.
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Okay, WHAT?
OM doesn't work, and you taking the fact that people post to tell you so as proof that it does is just idiocy.

Just leave, Doron. No one's listening.
 
Pure_Argent said:
Okay, WHAT?
OM doesn't work, and you taking the fact that people post to tell you so as proof that it does is just idiocy.

Just leave, Doron. No one's listening.
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There is a difference beween your ignorent existence and your non-ignorent existence, so?
 
doronshadmi said:
For lazy minds there is always a lack of explanation, so?

Here is another one ( in addition to http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5035781&postcount=5888 ):

http://www.sciencedirect.com/scienc...=10&md5=5b5d2b2df5b5b9ea1a07714c7d045482#cor1
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SOP on this board is that you don't just link to an article but also explain its relevance to the point you're stating yourself. It is also customary to quote a relevant portion of the link to highlight its relevance. You failed to do so. In fact, after thousands of posts, you've failed to state what OM is. Barring that, there can by definition be no relevance of any link whatsoever, as there's nothing a link could have relevance to. So, your links are a waste of time.

You've also shown time and again that your English is absolutely insufficient to explain whatever point you're trying to make. Though I'm also ESL, I couldn't care less. If your English is not up to par to make your point, tough luck, but then this forum is not for you.

But your lacking English is only half the problem. The other half is your utter lack of knowledge of mathematics. You've also shown time and again unwillingness to actually learn mathematics.

If you want to be taken seriously, go back to school, learn English and mathematics, and then review your OM claptrap.
 
ddt said:
SOP on this board is that you don't just link to an article but also explain its relevance to the point you're stating yourself. It is also customary to quote a relevant portion of the link to highlight its relevance. You failed to do so. In fact, after thousands of posts, you've failed to state what OM is. Barring that, there can by definition be no relevance of any link whatsoever, as there's nothing a link could have relevance to. So, your links are a waste of time.

You've also shown time and again that your English is absolutely insufficient to explain whatever point you're trying to make. Though I'm also ESL, I couldn't care less. If your English is not up to par to make your point, tough luck, but then this forum is not for you.

But your lacking English is only half the problem. The other half is your utter lack of knowledge of mathematics. You've also shown time and again unwillingness to actually learn mathematics.

If you want to be taken seriously, go back to school, learn English and mathematics, and then review your OM claptrap.
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ddt, as I'v said to jsfisher this http://www.internationalskeptics.com/forums/showpost.php?p=5032368&postcount=5879 fits also to you.
 
The real challenge is to translate abstract global schemes into concrete local dilemmas.

This is exactly the goal of my research, to define the brides between the abstract and the practical, where both aspects complement each other under a one comprehensive framework.

In my opinion this is the essence of Complexity and we are after all complex systems that are challenged by a complex realm in our daily life.

The development of the awareness of Complexity is, in my opinion, crucial to our own survival in the long run, and as I understand it, both Ethics AND Logics are two legs of a one body of knowledge that takes us further day-by-day along non-trivial journey.

In my opinion since our realm is generally some kind of trail-and-error experiment, then we are some more-software-than-hardware complex experimental expression of it.

In this case we have built-in non-liner development abilities that are not limited to hardware evolutionary changes, and one of the most powerful agents of our non-linear built-in properties is the mathematical science, which is used for more than 2500 years as a main tool for our survival.

500 years ago the western culture (which is mostly based only on our brain's left hemisphere) accelerated its abilities and the result is called Modern Science.

But imbalanced accelerated processes do not survive in the long run especially if you are more-software-than-hardware complex experiment.

As I have pointed, our Ethical skills remained Local where our Logical\Technological skills were accelerated by defining and developing universal principles.

In my opinion, it is about time to do the same thing to our brain's right hemisphere by developing Ethical universal principles.

The practical knowledge of how to do it is in the hands of the eastern culture (which is mostly based only on our brain's right hemisphere).

During the 20th century East met West because of the communications technological abilities of the Western culture, and since then very important mind's trainings that were developed by the Eastern culture are now available and researchable by modern scientific methods.

In my opinion, it is about time to do our best in order to develop the complement framework of our left and right hemispheres in order to return the balance to highly sensitive complex system like us.

In my opinion it can be done only if the Western academic and industrial institutions will be opened to paradigm-shifts about the "Technology of the Mind" given by the Eastern culture.

Actually both East and West cultures are changed by paradigm-shifts if real bridge is built between them.

My work is a preliminary example of such a paradigm-shift of the foundations of the mathematical science, and in order to achieve the mentioned goal, scholars around the globe have to be opened to this kind of project.

As I already have mentioned, no scholar or group of scholars are aware of the importance of such project and I left alone with my preliminary work.

I believe that each one of us has a unique and important view of this subject.
 
ddt said:
You've also shown time and again unwillingness to actually learn mathematics.
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No ddt, you have shown you inability to grasp this simple fact:

By using Direct Perception I show that from one hand Standard Math does not ignore Complexity in order to distinguish between
S members (S={ {{}}, {{a}}, {{a,b}}, {{b}}, ... , {{a,b,c,...}}, ...}), and on the other hand it ignores Complexity when Cardinality is measured.
 
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