Merged [Ed] Convicted Lockerbie bomber released

Darat said:
Since the First Minister did not make the decision (and it would not be in his power to do so) I'd rather go from what the bloke who actually made the decision said about it. Look him up.
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What the First Minister said is accurate.

The vindictiveness demanded by the US government contrast with the compassion of the Scottish government. The US demands for what was in effect vengeance had no merit, or was of any evidential value nor did it help with the process of justice. As such it is irrelevant to the decision.

What would have been of value was for the US government to release all relevant documentation to the defense team at the time of the trial and since. It has not done so and for it to complain about due process is laughable as well as deeply hypocritical.

See

'...Lord Fraser, the former lord advocate who charged the man convicted of the Lockerbie bombing, has revealed he was unaware that evidence presented at his trial seems to have left Britain beforehand.

The Tory peer has told a television documentary that he did not know that a fragment of circuit board linked to the bomb had allegedly been moved to an FBI lab in Washington for analysis ahead of the trial and conviction of Abdelbaset Ali Mohmed al-Megrahi.

Fraser said he would not have agreed to the step because it could have left the crown open to accusations at the trial that the circuit board could have been damaged or tampered with during the move. ...'
from http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/scotland/article6544162.ece

Given the number of lies the US has officially told the world in so many areas and their often demonstrated contempt for international law and the agreemenst they have signed up to he is right to feel that the evidence used to convict Megrahi has possibly been tampered with by the US government.
 
Well considering the vast majority of Americans seem to have been completely oblivious that there was any doubt about his conviction, I am not surprised there is a split between the UK and US victims' relatives. Numbers are far less important than having fuller information.
 
scissorhands said:
Somehow I thought that might be the only names you came up with.
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Wow! the spokesmen speak. What a surprise! If they were not doing their job I am sure the other families would say so. The problem is they are not saying what you want so you discount them.

There were 52 British victims and 38 other nationalities and 180 Americans.
 
Professor Yaffle said:
Why shouldn't they cheer the return home of a man who may have unjustly spent years in prison?
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May being the operative word.
He is convicted of killing 270 people, do you make a habit of cheering people convicted of mass murder simply because you arent quite sure he did it?
 
Nogbad said:
It was readily available information have you lost the power of your hands?

:boggled:
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No, Im leading you on a voyage of discovery and fact finding, you need to do the research to back up your earlier point, remember?
Now to my other question.
 
scissorhands said:
Yeah the SNP can take some pride in snubbing their noses at the relatives of the passengers in the US.
Salmond and co are class acts.
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At least we are finding out how certain lefties in the UK really feel about the mass murder of Americans; No Big Deal.
 
I cant imagine what would have given you that impression dudalb, its not as if the overwhelming support for the US victims relatives feelings isnt readily apparent in this thread.
Oh wait a minute...
We even have a moderator who cant understand why cheering a convicted mass murderer might seem inappropriate.
 
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lionking said:
By all means let this terrorist go to die a peaceful and pain-free death, just like his vcitims.:rolleyes:
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This is an interesting point of debate you have made through your sarcasm.

I am torn. Having not been in the same place situation wise as a victim family member, I am unsure how I would feel, but...

Is not what the Scottish Govt did the "Christian" thing to do. To not seek eye for an eye, but rather to treat others as you would be treated, to show mercy where you were shown none?

Just a point for thought and debate.

TAM:)
 
A Lot of commentators in the US are suggesting this is being partly done as a delibertate snub to the US by the SNP.
If true, way to go,guys.
 
dudalb said:
A Lot of commentators in the US are suggesting this is being partly done as a delibertate snub to the US by the SNP.
If true, way to go,guys.
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Well if it is any consolation dudalb the commentators are wrong and are being mischievous to boot. There has not been a word said against the US by the SNP on the matter. There was not even any complaint or accusation of pressure or interference.

I think Obama might have a little more to say than the decision was "a mistake" if it was some weird attempt to upset the US. FFS! the SNP spent a fair bit of effort in the first half of this year on the homecoming events and there have been lots of things put on for US citizens of Scots descent. Why on earth would the commentators make that leap?

Is there a danger that the US media is developing some kind of paranoia that every decision made abroad is designed to slight the US?
 
scissorhands said:
Any budding terrorists out there who want to commit mass murder by blowing up airliners?
Heres a tip.
Make sure you do it over Scotland.;)
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Why?

Because you don't like compassion?

Scottish people died in the atrocity. We still can show compassion. I commend it to you. I would not want to live in a compassionless society. I don't want live at the same level as the terrorists who show no compassion.
 
There has not been a word said against the US by the SNP on the matter. There was not even any complaint or accusation of pressure or interference.
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Thats true, the SNP simply ignored them.
 
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scissorhands said:
Kill 270 people in cold blood and you will get to spend your dying days with your family giving you big hugs.
Many other countries would have simply executed you.
Scotland is a good choice for terrorist activities.;)
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That is why Scotland does not have the same values as countries that kill their prisoners like China, USA, Saudi Arabia and Iran.

Thankfully Scotland has higher values than that. Have you ever heard of innocent people being found guilty?

I hope you or your children are never found guilty of a murder you did not commit in a country with the death penalty. You wouldn't be able to come here and post if you did.
 
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