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Baxter applied for H1N1 vaccine patent 1 year before it appeared

Praktik

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this is making the rounds lately.

I was provided with the following information by a woo-master:

A year before any reported “alleged H1N1" case, Baxter applied for an H1N1 vaccine, Baxter Vaccine Patent Application US 2009/0060950A1.​
Thing is, my google-fu is weak cause all this brings up are conspiracy sites.

How could I actually get a look at the patent itself? Anyone done the legwork on this one yet?
 
This (pdf) appears to be the patent application, and it seems to be an application for a patent on a method of producing vaccines in general. I assume that because H1N1 gets a mention in paragraph 0056, the anti-vaccine crowd have leapt upon it.
 
Wow this is great.

I see the date here is March 5th, 2009 - does this mean the patent application was "added to" over the past year?

Would be nice to have a timeline of when the H1N1 mention was introduced.
 
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see the date here is March 5th, 2009 - does this mean the patent application was "added to" over the past year?
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Sorry, I don't know, but If Horatius is around he might be able to tell you. He works in the world of patents.
 
This jumped on article comment in one of czech newspapers.

In elimination I used erxactly same source.(pdf)

Anyway claim is spread by some very strange cts and antivaxs sites.(And said comment was nearly direct translation -almost spam or flooding)
 
Praktik said:
Wow this is great.

I see the date here is March 5th, 2009 - does this mean the patent application was "added to" over the past year?

Would be nice to have a timeline of when the H1N1 mention was introduced.
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The March 5th, 2009 date is just the date the application was published. You can track the prosecution of patent applications at the USPTO's Patent Application Information Retrival site at:

http://portal.uspto.gov/external/portal/pair

You have to go through a capcha thingy first. Once there, select the publication number option, an dinput the number in this format:

20090060950

It looks like there have been no major amendments to this application so far. They submitted a new figure to replace an old one, and submitted the report on the equivalent International Application, but haven't changed the description at all.

So, the reference to H1N1 was there at the beginning. Of course, I have no idea how such IDs are assigned. We need a biotech guy to explain why it might have been used here.
 
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Looking at the online text version, the money shot is this:

In particular preferred embodiments the composition or vaccine comprises more than one antigen, e.g. 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 or 8, in particular of different virus strains, subtypes or types such as influenza A and influenza B, in particular selected from of one or more of the human H1N1, H2N2, H3N2, H5N1, H7N7, H1N2, H9N2, H7N2, H7N3, H10N7 subtypes, of the pig flu H1N1, H1N2, H3N1 and H3N2 subtypes, of the dog or horse flu H7N7, H3N8 subtypes or of the avian H5N1, H7N2, H1N7, H7N3, H13N6, H5N9, H11N6, H3N8, H9N2, H5N2, H4N8, H10N7, H2N2, H8N4, H14N5, H6N5, H12N5 subtypes.
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So it seems the H1N1 label is common to at least two known types, one human and one pig. Is this the same H1N1 as the new strain?
 
Horatius said:
Looking at the online text version, the money shot is this:




So it seems the H1N1 label is common to at least two known types, one human and one pig. Is this the same H1N1 as the new strain?
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Not necessarily. The H1N1 classification is based on two proteins found on the surface of the viral envelope, hemagglutin and neuramidase. These proteins come in different types, hence the classification according to which types a particular strain produces. There are multiple strains of H1N1 flu viruses; the virus that caused the 1918 pandemic was an H1N1 type as was the Russian flu of 1977-78.

The current pandemic strain is an H1N1 subtype, but genetic analysis has indicated that it appears to be a reassortment of genetic material from four different strains of H1N1.

Since viruses of the H1N1 subtype are enzootic among both swine and birds and flu viruses which cause disease in humans are more commonly H1N1 than other subtypes, including it in a general method for manufacturing flu vaccines is an obviously sensible idea-not any kind of evidence that Baxter anticipated the emergence of a particular strain.
 
Well, there we go. Nothing to see here, move along.


Shocking, really. A CT with no real basis? Utterly shocking!
 
It is funny...if you look at the patent, any flu that comes up in the next 10 years or more, the Woos could state Baxter knew about...H2N2...H5N1....

So stupid it is funny.

TAM:)
 
T.A.M. said:
It is funny...if you look at the patent, any flu that comes up in the next 10 years or more, the Woos could will state Baxter knew about...H2N2...H5N1....

So stupid it is funny.

TAM:)
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Fixed it for you!
 
ktesibios said:
There are multiple strains of H1N1 flu viruses; the virus that caused the 1918 pandemic was an H1N1 type as was the Russian flu of 1977-78.
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T.A.M. said:
oh for the love of god, it is not like the h1n1 virus spontaneously appeared for the very first time in world history this year...
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Bah! It's obvious to anyone with eyes to see that Baxter used a time-machine to cause the 1918 pandemic!

T.A.M. said:
It is funny...if you look at the patent, any flu that comes up in the next 10 years or more, the Woos could state Baxter knew about...H2N2...H5N1....
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Well, there's H1 through H16, and N1 through N9, so there's 144 possible combinations, and the patent only overs 17 of them. Though the patent probably covers the most commonly occurring combinations.
 
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