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Truthers...what is your best piece of evidence ?

johnny karate said:
I have already made one request in this thread for you provide an example of testimony you believe to be consistent with a controlled demolition.

This will be my second.
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There's quite a bit of testimony consistent with CD. You've seen it before and claimed, mostly through semantics, why you think it's been debunked. But the fact remains, whether accurate or not, many people described and heard characteristics consistent with CD.

These files are open on my computer and the quotes are right in front of me, but I'm somewhat opposed to jumping on this carousel once again only to have you and your fellow debunkers make the figurative arguments and appropriate the assumption that these people have all changed their minds since. We've been through this many times on this forum.
 
BigAl said:
No report by only one person could possibly be consistent with man-made demolition in timing, loudness and brisance.
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This.

Now that RedIbis' attempt to conflate "consistent" with "similar" has failed, I am curious to see what he comes up with in support of his assertion.
 
BigAl said:
No report by only one person could possibly be consistent with man-made demolition in timing, loudness and brisance.
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If your goalposts started in Giants Stadium, they would be in Foxboro by now.
 
RedIbis said:
There's quite a bit of testimony consistent with CD. You've seen it before and claimed, mostly through semantics, why you think it's been debunked. But the fact remains, whether accurate or not, many people described and heard characteristics consistent with CD.

These files are open on my computer and the quotes are right in front of me, but I'm somewhat opposed to jumping on this carousel once again only to have you and your fellow debunkers make the figurative arguments and appropriate the assumption that these people have all changed their minds since. We've been through this many times on this forum.
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"i was told later ... " :o
 
RedIbis said:
There's quite a bit of testimony consistent with CD.
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Why do I type this stuff? Is the InterWebs on today?

The 1993 bombing (1,000 pounds of TNT, equiv) was heard by essentially everyone up and down the towers and over the approximately 24 acres of the WTC plaza yet it did no structural damage to a tower. Man-made demolition would require many such charges, better placed, in each tower.

If you do find a witness list, it will be thousands of names long reporting the same instant and unambiguous and lacking of metaphor and simile. No noise heard by only one person or a small group is consistent with man-made demolition.

There are two good seismic records of WTC from two different organizations. They match. Neither shows anything that is evidence for man-made demolition. They show the planes impacting and parts of buildings hitting the ground.

None of the dead or injured from WTC show injuries consistent with man-made explosions or therm-anything.

You have nothing.
 
RedIbis said:
I never have had a problem producing such reports, why would I now? Do you have trouble finding such accounts?
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Yes I do, please produce them, or I'll take it is a no that you are unable to do so.
 
RedIbis said:
I never have had a problem producing such reports, why would I now? Do you have trouble finding such accounts?
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You have nothing. We have medical records and seismic records and thousands of eyewitnesses who didn't hear an explosion that would have been heard for miles.
 
RedIbis said:
There's quite a bit of testimony consistent with CD. You've seen it before and claimed, mostly through semantics, why you think it's been debunked. But the fact remains, whether accurate or not, many people described and heard characteristics consistent with CD.

These files are open on my computer and the quotes are right in front of me, but I'm somewhat opposed to jumping on this carousel once again only to have you and your fellow debunkers make the figurative arguments and appropriate the assumption that these people have all changed their minds since. We've been through this many times on this forum.
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I'm not asking you to establish what these people believed then or now, nor am I interested in dissecting their testimony semantically.

There would be no point in that anyway, as you are on record discounting the reliability of eyewitness testimony, and would therefore have to acknowledge that your interpretations of this testimony proves absolutely nothing.

You made a claim that there exists eyewitness testimony that is consistent with a controlled demolition. I would simply like to see you substantiate this claim.
 
Red:
We've been through this many times on this forum.
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We know, (groan), and do you know the reason why? Because you keep spouting the same drivel as before that has been thoroughly discarded by ordinary poeple as insane.

But back you come, somehow always slipping your untruths where you think you can get away with them, all the while hopping from foot to foot like someone with St. Vitus dance. (Sigh).

Look, the reason you're a laughing stock around here isn't because we're all idiots and you're the only one who knows there was a conspiracy. The reason you're a laughing stock is simple:

You repeat the same line repeatedly, despite however big a mangling from debunkers your opinion might have had last time. I can only assume you have severe amnesia.
 
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johnny karate said:
I'm not asking you to establish what these people believed then or now, nor am I interested in dissecting their testimony semantically.

There would be no point in that anyway, as you are on record discounting the reliability of eyewitness testimony, and would therefore have to acknowledge that your interpretations of this testimony proves absolutely nothing.

You made a claim that there exists eyewitness testimony that is consistent with a controlled demolition. I would simply like to see you substantiate this claim.
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Fair enough. I hope you stick to your intial statement in this post. Here is one in a long list of them:

Battalion Chief Dominick DeRubbio: “It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion.” [City of New York, 10/12/2001]
 
And round and round we go.

Red is too much religiously invested in his beliefs to ever change his mind.
 
Redibis should have no problem picking out the CD explosions from WTC 7 in this video


Lets compare to actual CD
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Any questions? bird?
 
RedIbis said:
Fair enough. I hope you stick to your intial statement in this post. Here is one in a long list of them:

Battalion Chief Dominick DeRubbio: “It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion.” [City of New York, 10/12/2001]
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You really should read the transcripts when you pick a name at random.

It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion,but I guess it was just the floors starting to pancake one on top of the other. http://www.flcv.com/firemen.html
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In any case, a noise heard by only one person is not consistent in timing and loudness with a real man-made demolition.

You have nothing.
 
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RedIbis said:
Fair enough. I hope you stick to your intial statement in this post. Here is one in a long list of them:

Battalion Chief Dominick DeRubbio: “It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion.” [City of New York, 10/12/2001]
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Nevermind, Al beat me to it.
 
RedIbis said:
Fair enough. I hope you stick to your intial statement in this post. Here is one in a long list of them:

Battalion Chief Dominick DeRubbio: “It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion.” [City of New York, 10/12/2001]
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Looked? not sounded? Are yoiu even aware of WTF we are talking about bird?
 
RedIbis said:
Fair enough. I hope you stick to your intial statement in this post. Here is one in a long list of them:

Battalion Chief Dominick DeRubbio: “It was weird how it started to come down. It looked like it was a timed explosion.” [City of New York, 10/12/2001]
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I think you're back to confusing "similar" with "consistent". In what way is making a comparison between two phenomena an acknowledgment that these two phenomena are consistent with each other?
 
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