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9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

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9-11 Investigator-

current census data suggests a deficit of at least 5 million Jews after WW2. please tell us where these Jews went.

mind you, I have census data from 1929 saying there were 18 million Jews on Earth, including about 11 million in Europe.

you seem to have done EXHAUSTIVE research into the Holocaust. surely you have a well thought out theory that explains where the missing 5 million or so Jews are.

either the 18 million figure before WW2 was waaaaaay over-blown.....or the figures after WW2 and today are waaaaaay under-reported.

so which is it????? whats your theory? katze hat deine tongue?
 
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parky76 said:
Lies. Bigotry. paranoia and evil. even Jewish children were guilty and had to die?
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Of course not. But do you apply the same standards to the German Anne Franks?

the Nazis were defeated once..and if we have to...we will annihilate them again.
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You just answered my question.

Interesting that you do not deny that the Jews destroyed Germany during WW1. That same Jews that were totally accepted in Germany like nowhere else before 1918. And what do these predators do? They make a deal with the British. Content of the Balfour deal:

- We the Jews control these American Hillbillies who we can send to war for you Brits and help you win WW1.
- You Brits give us Palestine in return.

And so it happened. And that same Germany that found it self in a winning position in the battle fields of France and who offered peace on very generous terms, basically saying: let's stop the war and go home. These same Germans were betrayed by the Jews and dismembered and burdened by scandalous 'reparation costs' in Versailles.

And you want the Germans to like you? The Allies asked for a Hitler and they got him.

And about that 'you annihilating' Europe again... dream on pall. We will do nothing to provoke America against us. We are prosperous, hold all the financial cards, we do have an industry left and a successor for the dollar after it's inevitable fall, we have 2.5 million soldiers and Russia as a potential ally. America will commit suicide all by itself. Imperial overstretch and stuff. Uncontrolled immigration of people who hold grudges against you. Obamageddon. Tent cities. 30% of the mortgage holders 'under water'. And you should remember that the American population is armed to the teeth, an interesting fact once the truth about 9/11 comes out.

And this does not look like a country with much future to me. 'Diversity is our strength', what a joke.

It's easy to imagine that the Euro-Americans are going to need a lot of help from their European pals in the future. Who would have thought that Americans would land in Normandie in 1944? Who can imagine that European troops someday will go ashore in Florida?
 
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9/11-investigator said:
Interesting that you do not deny that the Jews destroyed Germany.
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I do not respond to insane ideas like "the Jews destroyed Germany" and "9-11 was an inside job". I have better things to do with my time.

Now, 9-11 Investigator, through your thorough analysis of the Holocaust, where are the missing 5 million or so Jews?

Is the pre-WW2 census of world Jewish population highly inflated? are the post WW2 world Jewish population numbers deflated?

if the census data is correct, then somehow...a whoooole lotta Jews died during WW2. we would all like an explenation as to how they died.

whats your theory, Mein Herr?

i expect you to completely avoid this question...cause you have NO answer.
 
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some Nazi wrote a book saying that there could not have been 18 million Jews on Earth just before WW2. it would require a natural growth rate of about 3% a year. he said this is impossible..and pointed to the very low natural growth rate of Jews after WW2.

i pointed out to him, that many other populations had a natural growth rate of 3%, between 1900 and 1945, including the Palestinians. they even had a 3% growth rate in Israel.....even with all the demoralization, land confiscations, and restrictions under martial law.
 
9/11-investigator said:
You want me to answer within 5 minutes or what?
If I'll need a week than I'll take a week and you just wait.
No need to hurry. But don't worry you'll get your answer.
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good. u got a week. if you need more..let us know.

this is a question that deserves an answer. if you are gonna say 6 million Jews were not killed, you have to come up with a viable alternative as to their fate.

mind you, if you are going to say that the pre-WW2 census data was a fraud..you will have to prove it was a fraud. if you say that post-WW2 census data is a fraud..again....you gotta prove it.

otherwise, no one has to listen to you.

also keep in mind, that unlike others, I am not addicted to the 6 million figure. it may have been as little as 4.5 million....or as much as 7 million. i care about facts...not cult-like adherence to round numbers.
 
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9/11-investigator said:
You want me to answer within 5 minutes or what?
If I'll need a week than I'll take a week and you just wait.
No need to hurry. But don't worry you'll get your answer.
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You'll answer my question in a week too? I think Benjamin Kan's surviving kid will be thrilled to hear what happened to his parents and his sibling.
 
parky76 said:
I do not respond to insane ideas like "the Jews destroyed Germany"... I have better things to do with my time.
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Of course you don't, because it is not in your interest. But is there anything factual wrong with my explanation? Or are you going to give me an explanation for the undeniable German anti-semitism?

Don't hold your breath.

Now, 9-11 Investigator, through your thorough analysis of the Holocaust, where are the missing 5 million or so Jews?

Is the pre-WW2 census of world Jewish population highly inflated? are the post WW2 world Jewish population numbers deflated?

if the census data is correct, then somehow...a whoooole lotta Jews died during WW2. we would all like an explenation as to how they died.

whats your theory, Mein Herr?

i expect you to completely avoid this question...cause you have NO answer.
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OK. From Israeli sources I have these global Jewish population statistics in millions:

1882 - 7,8
1900 - 10,6
1914 - 13,5
1922 - 14,4
1925 - 14,8
1939 - 16,7

1948 - 11,5
1955 - 11,8
1970 - 12,6
1980 - 12,8
1990 - 12,9
2000 - 13,2

Do you Parky support these numbers as being correct? If not, give me your figures. Than we will start our little analysis together.

If you smell a rat, then you are correct. :D

You are warned.
 
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ddt said:
You'll answer my question in a week too? I think Benjamin Kan's surviving kid will be thrilled to hear what happened to his parents and his sibling.
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I am reluctant to answer stupid questions of which you know the answer yourself: of course I don't. What do you think I am, a one-man Jad Vashem?
 
9/11-investigator said:
Of course you don't, because it is not in your interest. But is there anything factual wrong with my explanation? Or are you going to give me an explanation for the undeniable German anti-semitism?

Don't hold your breath.



OK. From Israeli sources I have these global Jewish population statistics in millions:

1882 - 7,8
1900 - 10,6
1914 - 13,5
1922 - 14,4
1925 - 14,8
1939 - 16,7

1948 - 11,5
1955 - 11,8
1970 - 12,6
1980 - 12,8
1990 - 12,9
2000 - 13,2

Do you Parky support these numbers as being correct?
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what is the source? mind you, you cannot compare inconsistencies between census data of two or more different sources, to suggest that there is actually no deficit in jewish numbers.

if one source says 12 million Jews of the world in 1939..and another source says 13 million in 1946...that is evidence of nothing..since the first source may be underestimating and the second source...over estimating. you can only analyze data from the same source.

like i said, i have a book which lists Jews at 18 million..in 1929. so 16.7 million in 1939 seems a bit low. would u agree?

this is a great spreadsheet of varying Jewish population statistics. go to the bottom for world pop. figures. they do vary, as you can see.

http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_408.html
 
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9/11-investigator said:
I am reluctant to answer stupid questions of which you know the answer yourself: of course I don't. What do you think I am, a one-man Jad Vashem?
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Of course not. You are the ****ing genius whose ****ing strokes of ****ing genius render the patient work of tens of thousands of scholars over the course of several decades, not to mention mountains of hard evidence and countless eyewitness reports, testimonies and confessions, completely worthless, because your insane, rabid, bottomless hatred for the Jews means you know better than those people who were merely present when things happened, had these things happen to them, or ****ing DID these things.

The decent, rational and sane thing for your to do would be to accept the ****ing obvious - that the Jews were the innocent victims of the genocidal madman Hitler and his genocidal Nazi followers.

What I expect you to do, however, is to continue your insane anti-semitic raving, because that´s all you´re capable of.
 
Also, check out my email debate with writer and Holocaust-denier, Thomas Dalton. Start from the bottom and go up.


-Here is an interesting website that directly deals with the issue of the almost zero growth rate of the world's Jewish population since WW2.

Massive urbanization, inter-marriage, the loss of the European home base, much smaller Jewish families, and long term shock from the Holocaust, seem to all be contributing factors.

The world's Jewish population has actually decreased over the years, and appears to be headed further in that direction.

But keep in mind, a yearly growth rate of 3% was very common back then, as it was and continues to the yearly growth rate of Palestinians, even in Israel. Its been 3% a year since 1922.

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"Great men are like meteors...giving light to the world as they are consumed"
~John Fitzgerald Kennedy


From: Thomas Dalton <thomasdaltonphd@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 8:49:42 PM
Subject: Re: The Holocaust Denial Debate

Fine -- so stick with the Jewish Virtual Library as the 'single' source, which takes data from the Israeli Central Bureau of Statistics. Is there a comprehensible explanation for a very large, 1.4% annual growth rate for the 40 years before the war, but then a 0.3% annual rate for the 50 years after the war? That's a factor of (almost) 5 difference. Unlikely, I would say.



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To: Thomas Dalton <thomasdaltonphd@yahoo.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 3:06:37 PM
Subject: Re: The Holocaust Denial Debate

http://www.adherents.com/Na/Na_408.html

at the bottom of this web page, are whole host of many census #s for the World Jewish population from 1900 to today. They vary greatly. Some say there are 18 million Jews in the world today, some say 12 million.

Clearly, figuring out the number of Jews in the world is a difficult endeavor, and it is only academically sound to compare data from different time periods, from the SAME source, in order to get an accurate reading of possible fraud or deceit when it comes to pre-WW2 and post- WW2 Jewish population data.

Comparing possibly OVER-estimated pre-WW2 stats., with possibly UNDER-estimated post- WW2 stats.,(all from different sources) in order to suggest that there were very few Jewish Holocaust deaths...is absolutely ridiculous.


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"Great men are like meteors...giving light to the world as they are consumed"
~John Fitzgerald Kennedy


From: Thomas Dalton <thomasdaltonphd@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Tuesday, March 31, 2009 7:50:10 AM
Subject: Re: The Holocaust Denial Debate

jewishvirtuallibrary.org suggests about 15M in 1929, and 16.7M just before the war. But their statistics for 1900-1940 cannot be right, since they require a very high growth rate -- about 3x the rate after the war, which makes no sense. Pre-war numbers were likely inflated by 30-40%. Also the NYT reports on a global total of just 6M in 1889, and there is no way the pop could have tripled in 40 years. See Chap 3.



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To: Thomas Dalton <thomasdaltonphd@yahoo.com>
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:23:10 PM
Subject: Re: The Holocaust Denial Debate

Under 1 million? that just can't be. There were 18 million Jews in the world in 1929..and maybe 13 million after WW2. Today there aren't even 14 million Jews. Clearly a good 4 million Jews were murdered by the Nazis. Not to mention the millions of Poles, Russians, and Germans murdered by the Nazis.

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"Great men are like meteors...giving light to the world as they are consumed"
~John Fitzgerald Kennedy


From: Thomas Dalton <thomasdaltonphd@yahoo.com>
To:
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 9:19:04 PM
Subject: Re: The Holocaust Denial Debate

I suspect the death total is under 1 million. There are problems with national censuses, and of course 1929 was well before the war - lots of emigration occurred in the following 10 years. I suggest you read Chap 3 of the book, which shows the revisionist case pretty clearly, based on global (not national) figures.

TD.



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To: thomasdaltonphd@yahoo.com
Sent: Monday, March 30, 2009 7:59:26 PM
Subject: The Holocaust Denial Debate


Good afternoon. What are the conclusions of your book? I have done my own research and I believe that number of Jewish Holocaust victims is closer to 4.5 million, not 6 million. This was done by comparing the number of Jews listened in European countries, from a 1929 census of Jews in the World. I compared this to the number of Jews considered killed in each country under Nazi occupation. For example, it is believed that there were 3.3 million Jews in Poland, while in the 1929 census there were 2.8. That's a difference of 500,000. That's no chump change.

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9/11-investigator said:
I am reluctant to answer stupid questions of which you know the answer yourself: of course I don't. What do you think I am, a one-man Jad Vashem?
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What's stupid about my question? All evidence points to these people having been killed at Sobibor resp. Auschwitz at the dates I published. Your claim is that they survived. So, prove it.

And, to make it easier for you, I don't ask that for all 6 million Holocaust victims. I don't even ask that for all 100,000 Dutch Jews, whose whereabouts have been thoroughly documented thanks, in no small part, to our near error-free civil registry. No, I only ask you to do that for two families. A pretty easy job, I'd say, if the wealth of information in your sources is of any use and of any truthfulness.

With the additional question: why would the Kans have gone to Israel, as you speculated in an earlier post? Why wouldn't they go back to the Netherlands, to search for their kid that wasn't deported?

Now go for it and do your homework, Nazi fanboy! Arbeit macht frei, you know?
 
9/11-investigator said:
Parky is studiously avoiding my point about the Jews destroying Germany during WW1.
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Benjamin Freedman was a self-hating Jew. Clearly not unbiased on the subject matter. Ive heard his speeches.....all completely void of actual evidence. Just because **** comes from a Jew...doesn't mean it ain't ****.

Oh, and did the Jews of Gerrmany force Germany to sink the Lusitania, and two more ships after that? Certainly not.

Now back to the issue of census data...
 
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Chaos said:
The decent, rational and sane thing for your to do would be to accept the ****ing obvious - that the Jews were the innocent victims of the genocidal madman Hitler and his genocidal Nazi followers.
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I think that he, and most deniers know it happend, are glad it did, and wish they finished the job. They want to rewrite history to suit their evil ideology, i.e. to whitewash their heros and make the Jews the perpetrators of the biggest hoax in history.
 
ddt said:
What's stupid about my question? All evidence points to these people having been killed at Sobibor resp. Auschwitz at the dates I published. Your claim is that they survived. So, prove it.
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Our ddt here is probably talking about "I think Benjamin Kan's surviving kid will be thrilled to hear what happened to his parents and his sibling."

Well that's interesting, DDT has 'all evidence that these people having been killed at Sobibor resp. Auschwitz at the dates I published'. Well, bring it on then. Show us all the evidence (he won't because he does not have a shred of evidence).

Again: it is very well possible that they did die in these camps, revisionists admit that 270,000 people died in the camps, with maybe half of them Jews. So, they don't claim that mr Kan did not die as you say.
 
parky76 said:
Benjamin Freedman was a self-hating Jew. Clearly not unbiased on the subject matter.
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Haha, may be he was a self-hating Jew. But was he a lying Jew? I don't think so.

Parky's definition of 'self-hating Jew': any Jew who acts against the interest of the Jewish tribe, regardless of historic truth. I guess that Jesus was a 'self-hating Jew' as well. And Finkelstein also and Makow.

Now give me your population statistics...
 
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