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Evolution: the Facts.

There's no "theory of evolution". Evolution is change regardless of direction. Change in a "wrong" direction (however you determine that) would only go against the theory of natural selection. Natural selection and evolution are two separate things; the former is the theory Darwin came up with to explain the fact that the latter happens.
 
Delvo said:
There's no "theory of evolution".
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Yes there is.

My confident assertion against yours, who will win?

Evolution is change regardless of direction.
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Sure, but the theory of evolution posits constraints on that change.

Natural selection and evolution are two separate things; the former is the theory Darwin came up with to explain the fact that the latter happens.
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And this, plus the laws of genetics, are what we call the theory of evolution.

I don't see why you're making a fuss about this. The theory of evolution is the explanation of why and how evolution works. That's what "theory of evolution" means. This includes the laws and facts of [swiki]Natural Selection[/swiki], [swiki]Mutation[/swiki], [swiki]Recombination[/swiki], [swiki]Lateral Gene Transfer[/swiki], [swiki]Genetic Drift[/swiki] and so forth.
 
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arthwollipot said:
Exactly. Welcome to the forum, Bob.
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Thank you.

I decided to take a chance and jump right into the middle of this thread because I did not read the whole thing. I'll catch up today so that I don't make a fool out of myself. It does seem to be an interesting thread and shortly I will be opening up my big mouth why fundies are the way they are! At least, my opinion of why fundies are the way they are!!

Bob Guercio
 
Sorry if this has been posted before.
NCSE is pleased to announce that the complete run of Creation/Evolution is now available in PDF form on the NCSE website. Published from 1980 to 1996, Creation/Evolution was the leading source of information about and criticism of the creationist movement through that momentous period, which saw the rise and fall of attempts to require the teaching of "creation science" in the public schools as well as the beginnings of the "intelligent design" movement.
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http://ncseweb.org/news/2009/08/creationevolution-now-available-line-004984
 
So what about adaption? This is one of the most common areas they'll blast evolution on, and one I'm not too certain myself. How is adaption related to evolution? Does it lead to evolution?

Also, a good series of videos on youtube, if nobody's mentioned it before as I haven;t been through the whole thread, is called 15 Foundational Falsehoods of Creationism.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wv6kgjOEL0

It's 15 parts, parts fourteen and fifteen are split into two parts, and each part is ten minutes long.
 
Eyeron said:
So what about adaption?
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From dictionary.com

Adaption:
Biology. a. any alteration in the structure or function of an organism or any of its parts that results from natural selection and by which the organism becomes better fitted to survive and multiply in its environment.
b. a form or structure modified to fit a changed environment.
c. the ability of a species to survive in a particular ecological niche, esp. because of alterations of form or behavior brought about through natural selection.
 
BobG said:
Adaption:
Biology. a. any alteration in the structure or function of an organism or any of its parts that results from natural selection and by which the organism becomes better fitted to survive and multiply in its environment.
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In other words, loads of Organism A will not survive Enviromental Change B, and those that do survive, (creepy music) For Now, thanks to not being enough like Organism A+, are not ENOUGH like Organism A+. As Enviromental Change B changes most of Organism A+ die out, but some have the right mutations to survive. Let's call them Organism B and, though they are not far enough removed from Organism A, they don't see enough Organism As so random mutations keep them able to be sorta fertile with Organism A but they are more likely to make babies with Organism B and far more likely to successfully mate with Organism B+. And so on, until Organism C could mate with Organism A until the cows came home, but with no issue.

I suspect that much of the subconscious 19th-century rejection of Darwin had as much to do with implied, but inaccurate, beastiality as it did with Biblical creationism. One simply doesn't mate with apes.
 
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dropzone said:
In other words, loads of Organism A will not survive Enviromental Change B, and those that do survive, (creepy music) For Now, thanks to not being enough like Organism A+, are not ENOUGH like Organism A+. As Enviromental Change B changes most of Organism A+ die out, but some have the right mutations to survive. Let's call them Organism B and, though they are not far enough removed from Organism A, they don't see enough Organism As so random mutations keep them able to be sorta fertile with Organism A but they are more likely to make babies with Organism B and far more likely to successfully mate with Organism B+. And so on, until Organism C could mate with Organism A until the cows came home, but with no issue.

I suspect that much of the subconscious 19th-century rejection of Darwin had as much to do with implied, but inaccurate, beastiality as it did with Biblical creationism. One simply doesn't mate with apes.
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Did you read what you wrote? I have no idea what you area talking about!
 
Oh yes ... [swiki]Soils and Paleosols[/swiki]. I've mentioned paleosols a couple of times, so I thought they needed an article ... plus just on their own they prove that Flood Geology is bull, so I may be mentioning them again later.
 
:confused: highly porous as compared to a sedimentary rock, and the rainwater will easily be able to seep through

:) highly porous as compared to a sedimentary rock, and rainwater will easily be able to seep through
 
:( These processes, know as soil formation

:) These processes, known as soil formation
 
:( something of a digression from the main of thrust this article

:) something of a digression from the main thrust of this article
 
:( The climate. chemical weathering acts much more vigorously

:) The climate. Chemical weathering acts much more vigorously
 
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:( in warm climates with pleanty of rainfall.

:) in warm climates with plenty of rainfall.
 
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