Kevin Barrett interviews Frank Greening

[Dave Rogers]

Posted yesterday by Metamars on The 9/11 Forum; apparently Kevin Barrett is interviewing Frank Greening this morning.

http://the911forum.freeforums.org/dr-g-former-darling-of-jref-anti-9-11-truth-debunkers-t200.html

I was asked a question I hear all the time: Why, if the WTC "collapses" were such obvious demolitions, are there so many scientists who disagree?

My answer is that there aren't. Like Diogenes with his lamp, searching the world for an honest man, I have spent several years searching for an honest, independent scientist willing to defend the Bush Administration's account of what happened to the World Trade Center. The only person I have found who even remotely fits the description is Dr. Frank Greening.

Yes, folks, you heard it here first: Frank Greening is the only honest, independent scientist in the world who doesn't believe that the WTC collapses weren't controlled demolitions.

What a bizarre world Kevin Barrett must live in. Presumably his definition of "honest, independent" is a rather... special one. I'm not claiming that Frank isn't either, since he strikes me as both honest and independent to an almost excessive degree; but I have to wonder whether I'm dishonest, or just dependent.

Dave

 

[Quad4_72]

Or perhaps, you just aren't completely out of your mind like Barrett is.

 

[Good Lt]

Kevin Barret? You mean that guy hasn't been institutionalized yet?

I'm behind on the 9-11 woo, it would seem.

 

[progge]

He [Greening] is now collaborating with Dr. David Ray Griffin on Dr. Griffin's forthcoming book about WTC-7

While I´m a wee bit disturbed that Dr. Greening collaborates with DRG (who certainly is neither honest nor independent), I´m sure this will increase the quality of the book.

 

[carlitos]

How would this give him expertise in building collapse?

Dr. Frank Greening's biography:
I have a Ph. D. in chemistry , but my official title for over 20 years was Senior Research Scientist at what used to be called Ontario Hydro and is now Ontario Power Generation. I was in charge of radioanalytical chemistry research and discovered all sorts of problems with OPG's CANDU reactors... [Google Frank Greenings name and you’ll find him described as a “nuclear whistle-blower”]. I have published scientific articles in the Journal of Molecular Spectroscopy, Canadian Journal of Physics, Chemical Physics Letters, Journal of Nuclear Materials, etc. I even worked with the great Nobel prize winning spectroscopist, Gerhard Herzberg, for 2 years back in the 1970s.

 

[newton3376]

Posted yesterday by Metamars on The 9/11 Forum; apparently Kevin Barrett is interviewing Frank Greening this morning.

http://the911forum.freeforums.org/dr-g-former-darling-of-jref-anti-9-11-truth-debunkers-t200.html



Yes, folks, you heard it here first: Frank Greening is the only honest, independent scientist in the world who doesn't believe that the WTC collapses weren't controlled demolitions.

What a bizarre world Kevin Barrett must live in. Presumably his definition of "honest, independent" is a rather... special one. I'm not claiming that Frank isn't either, since he strikes me as both honest and independent to an almost excessive degree; but I have to wonder whether I'm dishonest, or just dependent.

Dave

I thought it was fairly obvious that you were a paid shill.....speaking of pay I think I need to talk to NWO accounting department...my last paycheck didn't include my overtime.....

 

[Edx]

According to 911 Blogger, Greening is Apollo20 and after reading a thread with him in I have to say Im very confused. He seems to come out with most of the tired old truther rubbish, where did it all go wrong?

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[RedIbis]

According to 911 Blogger, Greening is Apollo20 and after reading a thread with him in I have to say Im very confused. He seems to come out with most of the tired old truther rubbish, where did it all go wrong?

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Greening is Apollo20 who was banned here about a year ago. Apparently, it all went wrong when Greening started scrutinizing NIST's collapse hypotheses.

 

[Dave Rogers]

Nobody can debunk a conspiracy theorist like one with a different conspiracy theory. Frank has done some excellent analysis of the collapse dynamics of the Twin Towers, and, so far as I'm aware, steadfastly holds to the belief that no explosives or thermite were necessary to the observed collapse dynamics. However, he's highly suspicious of government, and tends to hold a lot of other broadly conspiracist views. What he won't do is maintain those views in the face of physical evidence, where he's investigated it himself in sufficient detail to form an opinion.

Dave

 

[Dave Rogers]

Greening is Apollo20 who was banned here about a year ago. Apparently, it all went wrong when Greening started scrutinizing NIST's collapse hypotheses.

Nothing to do with direct personal harrassment of another forum member at her place of work, then? Funny, I seem to remember something like that.

Dave

 

[Edx]

Nobody can debunk a conspiracy theorist like one with a different conspiracy theory. Frank has done some excellent analysis of the collapse dynamics of the Twin Towers, and, so far as I'm aware, steadfastly holds to the belief that no explosives or thermite were necessary to the observed collapse dynamics. However, he's highly suspicious of government, and tends to hold a lot of other broadly conspiracist views. What he won't do is maintain those views in the face of physical evidence, where he's investigated it himself in sufficient detail to form an opinion.

Dave

That sounds ...weird... but if its true he's working with David Ray Griffin he's clearly gone completely off the rails.

Am I right?

 

[RedIbis]

Nothing to do with direct personal harrassment of another forum member at her place of work, then? Funny, I seem to remember something like that.

Dave

I wasn't addressing why he was banned. I was responding to edx's comment which should have been easy to understand. He was wondering where Greening went so wrong and started spewing truther rubbish, not where Greening went wrong on jref.

 

[Dave Rogers]

That sounds ...weird... but if its true he's working with David Ray Griffin he's clearly gone completely off the rails.

Am I right?

I'm not sure the question's even worth asking. It's better to judge work on its merits rather than on the personal beliefs of its originator. Whatever he believes, Frank has done some analysis of real elegance and quality, which is a valuable resource. And whatever he believes, David Ray Griffin... hasn't.

Dave

 

[Dave Rogers]

I wasn't addressing why he was banned. I was responding to edx's comment which should have been easy to understand. He was wondering where Greening went so wrong and started spewing truther rubbish, not where Greening went wrong on jref.

Then, as usual, you've invented a scenario that you want to believe, and made no effort to base it on reality.

Dave

 

[tsig]

Greening is Apollo20 who was banned here about a year ago. Apparently, it all went wrong when Greening started scrutinizing NIST's collapse hypotheses.

No. He violated the rules.

 

[Pardalis]

I'm listening to the interview, and Garrett said Dylan Avery hired a P.I. to investigate the death of Barry Jennings?

I've never heard of that.

 

[T.A.M.]

Greening is Apollo20 who was banned here about a year ago. Apparently, it all went wrong when Greening started scrutinizing NIST's collapse hypotheses.

Retraction

TAM

 

[T.A.M.]

Posted yesterday by Metamars on The 9/11 Forum; apparently Kevin Barrett is interviewing Frank Greening this morning.

http://the911forum.freeforums.org/dr-g-former-darling-of-jref-anti-9-11-truth-debunkers-t200.html



Yes, folks, you heard it here first: Frank Greening is the only honest, independent scientist in the world who doesn't believe that the WTC collapses weren't controlled demolitions.

What a bizarre world Kevin Barrett must live in. Presumably his definition of "honest, independent" is a rather... special one. I'm not claiming that Frank isn't either, since he strikes me as both honest and independent to an almost excessive degree; but I have to wonder whether I'm dishonest, or just dependent.

Dave

Frank is an honest scientist, sometimes to a fault, as I get the impression he wants to believe in the CTs, but will always believe the science first...so he ends up arguing here (before he was banned) while at the same time arguing with the idiots who claim to be the truth movement "scientists".

He has been burned by beurocracy and ill doings in his previous employed positions, and I think, IMO, this has effected how he approaches the whole thing. Still despite that, he insists (unlike Jones and others) that the science comes first.

TAM

 

[Pardalis]

Great, Greening is helping D.R. Griffin with his new book on WTC7...

ETA: and he's totally buying into that red chip nonsense...

 

[T.A.M.]

Great, Greening is helping D.R. Griffin with his new book on WTC7...

Like I said, Frank seems to side with the woo in principle, but I am hopeful, that as usual, the science will come through.

I suspect if anything, he will contribute in such a way as to list some "unanswered" questions concerning WTC7.

We will see.

TAM