9/11-investigator explains the Holocaust

[Simon39759]

Wow.

The reason for the thread was for you to give your position on the Holocaust.*

I gather it can be summarized as:
"It never happened and the Nazis were justified to do it."

Which, of course, is a contradiction.
And, that's about the nicest thing about it.

 

[9/11-investigator]

As usual, you don´t understand a freaking thing. Thereby proving my point that Nazis are brainless brutes, by the way. Which explains their rabid hatred of everyone with at least two brain cells and the will to use them.

Meet Leon Trotsky, the commander of the Red Army, the butcherer of the Russian aristocratic class. He has the blood of millions on his hands.

And here is Lazar Kaganovich, the architect of the Holomodor (™). Finally a holocaust (™) that did happen:

No need to introduce Richard Perle, one of the architects of the Iraq deception based that cost 1 million Iraqies their lives and probably America it's superpower position:

A fine bunch (on their way out).
Thanks to the internet.

 

[tsig]

You "refuse"? Hysterical.......

Today the JREF, tomorrow the WORLD!!!!

 

[Alt+F4]

After almost 750 posts in this thread 9/11-investigator has proven beyond a doubt that Holocaust deniers are 100% wrong.

I'm going to bookmark this thread for the next time I come across an online Holocaust denier. After reading this no one could ever deny the Holocaust again.

 

[Alt+F4]

Meet Leon Trotsky, the commander of the Red Army, the butcherer of the Russian aristocratic class. He has the blood of millions on his hands.

Prove it based on your own standards of evidence as you stated in post #3:

Wait, I'll make it easy for you: prove that only one person was gassed.

Prove that even one person was murdered by Trotsky.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

Meet Leon Trotsky, the commander of the Red Army, the butcherer of the Russian aristocratic class. He has the blood of millions on his hands.

And here is Lazar Kaganovich, the architect of the Holomodor (™). Finally a holocaust (™) that did happen:

No need to introduce Richard Perle, one of the architects of the Iraq deception based that cost 1 million Iraqies their lives and probably America it's superpower position:

A fine bunch (on their way out).
Thanks to the internet.

you just superimposed an image of the KZs to an image of Trotsky. He was harsh, but dude, he was fighting a civil war at the time. Many of the deaths were for desertion.

Lazar was a scumbag, but that does not mean every jew is an evil conspiratorial demon. Honestly, i do not see how the actions of a few jewish people amount to them being the fount of all evil. I think you will scream unfair if i said every European thought like Heydrich, Himmler, Goring and Hitler.

Your internet is only Stormfront and other neo-nazi sites.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Rotterdam was an air strike with the expressed desire of inflicting casualties on civilians with the desire to force the surrender of the Netherlands.

Oh Trojan, could you please read this:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/History_07/Rotterdam_050807.html

I SHOULD like to point to you the following website which contains photos, and under the category unnecessary bombardment says about the bombing of Rotterdam, that it cost the lives of 900 civilians (9/11-I: the generally accepted figure, also here in Holland). This is exactly the amount of casualties you had discovered by thorough research and present it to the public, contrary to the populist opinions i.e. Winston Churchill's and of other "esteemed" historians that the bombing had cost the lives of 30-40.000 civilians.

Don't forget that the bombing of Rotterdam and those "30,000 casualties" was used as a justified pretext for the fire-bombings and subsequent incineration of hundreds of thousands of unarmed civilians (women, elderly, children) while most of the male population was away from the cities in the fronts of Russia or in France (late 1944)

Of course in this case the truth has been revealed although it took some decades to be done so.

Woe to the defeated (old Greek saying)

John Papas
Greece

Adds David Irving:

MANY thanks; I am quietly confident that eventually my views will be generally accepted. In fact the Allied air forces killed very many more Rotterdam citizens than Hitler's Luftwaffe did on May 14, 1940. See Professor Hans-Adolf Jacobsen's excellent research into the raid in the Institut für Zeitgeschichte journal, many years ago.

Oh Trojan, thanks for the 'liberation' but please don't do it again, ever. Also in the name of these hundreds of thousands of raped women by these fine American Allies, I mean the Soviets (the Germans never raped women), your countrymen (let's pretend for a second that Trojan is a Russian, as he pretends. He is not, he is Jewish).

 

[9/11-investigator]

you just superimposed an image of the KZs to an image of Trotsky. He was harsh, but dude, he was fighting a civil war at the time. Many of the deaths were for desertion.

I did not superimpose anything. I copy and pasted the first picture I found, admittedly not the most beneficial.

Lazar was a scumbag, but that does not mean every jew is an evil conspiratorial demon. Honestly, i do not see how the actions of a few jewish people amount to them being the fount of all evil.

They were the top people who organized huge mass murders. And you want to downplay that to 'a few Jews'?

I think you will scream unfair if i said every European thought like Heydrich, Himmler, Goring and Hitler.

That's interesting! All over sudden Kaganovich and Trozky are in the same league as Himmler and Hitler. Well the Hollywood Himmler/Hitler that is.

You are making progress, congratulations!

Oh and what happened to our holocaust entrepreneur Nick Terry? He has become very silent all over sudden. Probably doesn't want to ruin his career before it really started by getting teached a lesson by some holo-amateur like me for all the world to see.

A shame, I invested many hours last Sunday addressing many points of his list.

 

[Alt+F4]

...the Germans never raped women....

Please keep the lies coming, so much more ammo to show to those who doubt the Holocaust happened.

 

[JohnG]

9/11 Investigator; I've been following this thread with interest, but as far as I can see you have not addressed one of the central questions put to you (apologies in advance if you have and I missed it):

Why is it that none of the people who were alleged to have had a hand in what we've come to regard as "The Holocaust" ever denied that said Holocaust occurred? Yes, some said they were "just following orders" others said that their part in it was negligible, but as far as I know, no one came out and flat out denied that there was a concerted effort on the part of Hitler and the German military to systematically wipe out so called "inferior" races, the Jews being chief among them. It's not just those who were on trial for their life, either; no one, not rank and file soldiers, not former Nazis hiding in Argentina, none of these people seems to have denied that the holocaust happened. Why is this and why do you continue to ignore this crucial question? It really is the "elephant in the room" and your steadfast refusal to acknowledge it is quite telling.

Unlike many others here, I do not think you are a "Nazi" and I don't think you are evil. I do however think that you are an angry, bitter, deeply sad person who seems utterly incapable in recognizing how your own thoughts and actions have contributed to your sad state. That would be bad enough on its own, but the problem is that miserable people tend to try their hardest to make innocent people around them miserable, too, as history has shown.

And no, not that it matters, but for the record I am not Jewish (if that helps you with your informal poll), but in this instance I happily stand with any Jews posting in this thread. Doesn't matter, anyway, as you seem intent on believing whatever you want to believe, despite the evidence.

 

[NWO Sentryman]

I did not superimpose anything. I copy and pasted the first picture I found, admittedly not the most beneficial.

They were the top people who organized huge mass murders. And you want to downplay that to 'a few Jews'?

It does not matter what their background is. Why do you take Trotsky and Kaganovich, two brutal scumbags, and say all jews are like them? Who is the one who tries to downplay atrocities.

That's interesting! All over sudden Kaganovich and Trozky are in the same league as Himmler and Hitler. Well the Hollywood Himmler/Hitler that is.

Straw Man! i was not putting them in the same league. I was using your logic. So congratualations. you have described europeans as hateful, ruthless bloodthirsty occultic barbarians.

You are making progress, congratulations!

no, you are the one who is regressing. you said it yourself that you wanted to reduce Europe to the 16th century. Well, prepare to welcome serfdom, illiteracy and poverty.

Oh and what happened to our holocaust entrepreneur Nick Terry? He has become very silent all over sudden. Probably doesn't want to ruin his career before it really started by getting teached a lesson by some holo-amateur like me for all the world to see.

He is still active.

A shame, I invested many hours last Sunday addressing many points of his list.

Nope. You just accused many people of being shills. You have Zero peer reviewed evidence. We have the nuremberg trials minutes, mass graves, crematoria, schamtics and blueprints of TZs and KZs. As well as that, we have survivor and perpetrator testimony. The icing on the cake: the Nazis gloat about it every step of the way in declassified documents.

 

[SimonD]

All German territories before WW1.

WW2 happened because of Versailles, no other reason. And the betrayal of Germany by the Jews, who acquired Palestine at the cost of Germany, by bringing their American serfs into the war in exchange for the Balfour Declaration. And you don't understand why the Germans hated the Jews. Fully justified.

How many times have the boarders of Europe changed? It's like two fleas fighting over whose dog it is. Strausberg is a great example of ever changing boarders.

I've never seen Italy claim Britain because the Roman Empire once ruled there, even during their fascist days.

Besides, the Czech people did not want the Germans to take over the entire country, nor did the Poles.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Prove it based on your own standards of evidence as you stated in post #3:

Prove that even one person was murdered by Trotsky.

Why should I waste my time on that? If you want to prove that he never killed anybody, be my guest. I am saying that he was the commander of the Red Army and that he in that capacity was involved in a war where many people got killed. I am not saying that he killed people personally or gassed people or made lamp shades out of aristocrat skin or Czar-soap or other ridiculous horror stories you people seem to be so fond of.

 

[9/11-investigator]

How many times have the boarders of Europe changed? It's like two fleas fighting over whose dog it is. Strausberg is a great example of ever changing boarders.

I've never seen Italy claim Britain because the Roman Empire once ruled there, even during their fascist days.

Besides, the Czech people did not want the Germans to take over the entire country, not did the Poles.

Besides, I sure the people of

Czecho-slowakia never existed in history and it fell apart miserably fairly recently, because nobody wanted it. It was an artificial creation by Versailles.

 

[Trojan]

Oh Trojan, could you please read this:

http://www.fpp.co.uk/Letters/History_07/Rotterdam_050807.html

I SHOULD like to point to you the following website which contains photos, and under the category unnecessary bombardment says about the bombing of Rotterdam, that it cost the lives of 900 civilians (9/11-I: the generally accepted figure, also here in Holland). This is exactly the amount of casualties you had discovered by thorough research and present it to the public, contrary to the populist opinions i.e. Winston Churchill's and of other "esteemed" historians that the bombing had cost the lives of 30-40.000 civilians.

The point being that Rotterdam was a deliberate airstrike targetting civilians with the intention of causing terror and forcing a foe to surrender.

This was prior to any such instance by the Allies, i.e. the Germans did it first and showed this was going to be a total war.

All the rest of your post is pathetic.

 

[dudalb]

After almost 750 posts in this thread 9/11-investigator has proven beyond a doubt that Holocaust deniers are 100% wrong.

I'm going to bookmark this thread for the next time I come across an online Holocaust denier. After reading this no one could ever deny the Holocaust again.

It also proves that Holocaust Deniers are almost 100% disgusting. Their beliefs are driven purely by hatred of the Jews.
I am talking about the hard core.You have a few fools who fall for it because they will fall for anything that is "new" "Daring" and "UnConventional",but they usually lose interest. But the true beleivers are almost invariably Anti Semites.

 

[dudalb]

Russia is now authoritarian Orthodox again, as it should be (because that is it's nature).

Ya gotta love the stereotyping.
Yeah, 9/11 Investigator is a real piece of work.

 

[9/11-investigator]

Why is it that none of the people who were alleged to have had a hand in what we've come to regard as "The Holocaust" ever denied that said Holocaust occurred? Yes, some said they were "just following orders" others said that their part in it was negligible, but as far as I know, no one came out and flat out denied that there was a concerted effort on the part of Hitler and the German military to systematically wipe out so called "inferior" races, the Jews being chief among them. It's not just those who were on trial for their life, either; no one, not rank and file soldiers, not former Nazis hiding in Argentina, none of these people seems to have denied that the holocaust happened. Why is this and why do you continue to ignore this crucial question? It really is the "elephant in the room" and your steadfast refusal to acknowledge it is quite telling.

That's very simple: for the very same reason that you and I (until a few years ago) never denied it, because we and your Nazis believed the lies! There clearly were deportation programs going on (my own grandfather here in Amsterdam had German Jews in hiding). The killing is supposed to have happened in a very confined area in the middle of nowhere in Poland for nobody to see. How should these Nazis have known whether the holocaust took place or not? And more important, the war was lost, nobody wanted to be identified as a Nazi so nobody was interested in defending the Nazi's anymore. The Germans wanted to forget. Nobody talked about the war until the new hippie-generation started to ask questions after 1968. And, very important, there was no holocaust propaganda! There were no films, no television, no internet. The holocaust propaganda started somewhere in the 1970's, worldwide, all over sudden, massively.

Unlike many others here, I do not think you are a "Nazi" and I don't think you are evil.

Oh please don't say that. I was just getting accustomed to my new found identity. My wife even said that I started to walk funny recently.

Kidding, just kidding.

I do however think that you are an angry, bitter, deeply sad person who seems utterly incapable in recognizing how your own thoughts and actions have contributed to your sad state. That would be bad enough on its own, but the problem is that miserable people tend to try their hardest to make innocent people around them miserable, too, as history has shown.

Hmm, I am generally known as a rather happy chappy and I'm rather content with life, my family and my work. I think you make a mistake in your judgement about my spiritual state. But thanks for your concern anyway.

However, there is a point why I bring this all up and that is the coming 'Death of the West'. And that is something I don't like at all. And I see that this holocaust propaganda is used to bring said Death of the West about. So I see it as my civil duty to do something about it. And that's why I am here.

 

[SimonD]

Czecho-slowakia never existed in history and it fell apart miserably fairly recently, because nobody wanted it. It was an artificial creation by Versailles.

The people of Czechoslovakia wanted it and they didn't want to become part of Germany.

 

[JohnG]

That's very simple: for the very same reason that you and I (until a few years ago) never denied it, because we and your Nazis believed the lies! There clearly were deportation programs going on (my own grandfather here in Amsterdam had German Jews in hiding). The killing is supposed to have happened in a very confined area in the middle of nowhere in Poland for nobody to see. How should these Nazis have known whether the holocaust took place or not? And more important, the war was lost, nobody wanted to be identified as a Nazi so nobody was interested in defending the Nazi's anymore. The Germans wanted to forget. Nobody talked about the war until the new hippie-generation started to ask questions after 1968. And, very important, there was no holocaust propaganda! There were no films, no television, no internet. The holocaust propaganda started somewhere in the 1970's, worldwide, all over sudden, massively.

That explains some of the silence, but not all of it. I was referring specifically to the people who were alleged to have been directly involved, not, say, some private stationed in Africa. What about the people who were literally on trial for their life?